Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[rommelrommel]

Haven't watched it yet, but going by your description (and his thumbnail)... He's probably an idiot.

You're telling me the VDV paratroopers are disposable rookies?
You're telling me T80-BVMs, BTR-82As and KA-52s are their worst equipment?
You're telling me taking three days to move three miles is acceptable?
You're telling me all those abandoned tanks,SAMs, artillery and dead men are planned out?

The Soviets traded men for time in the worst of the war, yeah, but, that's some terrifying overgeneralization. The Soviet army was cumbersome, but they're the same ones that pioneered the operational layer between the tactical and strategic. 'Throw shit at wall and hope for the best' wasn't a tactic, deep battle was.

Task and Purpose generally isn't an idiot, but the idea of Russians not caring about casualties is a bit of a trope and less true in reality. Nowhere in their doctrine does it suggest to lead attacks with poor troops and equipment.

Comments about the overall pace not being ridiculously slow are valid, but there are also clearly a lot of bad calls made on the Russian side.

 

[Brainonska511]

The A-10C Thunderbolt II is the first Air Force aircraft specially designed for close air support of ground forces. They are simple, effective and survivable twin-engine jet aircraft that can be used against light maritime attack aircraft and all ground targets, including tanks and other armored vehicles.

The A-10C offers excellent maneuverability at low airspeeds and altitude while maintaining a highly accurate weapons-delivery platform. They can loiter near battle areas for extended periods of time, are capable of austere landings and operate under 1,000-foot ceilings (303.3 meters) with 1.5-mile (2.4 kilometers) visibility. Additionally, with the capability of carrying precision guided munitions and unguided munitions, they can employ above, below and in the weather. Their wide combat radius and short takeoff and landing capability permit operations in and out of locations near front lines. Using night vision goggles, A-10C pilots can conduct their missions during darkness.

Its airframe was designed for durability, with measures such as 1,200 pounds (540 kg) of titanium armor to protect the cockpit and aircraft systems, enabling it to absorb damage and continue flying. The aircraft can survive direct hits from armor-piercing and high explosive projectiles up to 23mm. Their self-sealing fuel cells are protected by internal and external foam. Manual systems back up their redundant hydraulic flight-control systems. This permits pilots to fly and land when hydraulic power is lost.

The Thunderbolt II can be serviced and operated from bases with limited facilities near battle areas. Many of the aircraft's parts are interchangeable left and right, including the engines, main landing gear and vertical stabilizers.

The A-10 was designed to provide close air support (CAS) to friendly ground troops by attacking armored vehicles, tanks, and other enemy ground forces; it is the only production-built aircraft designed solely for CAS to have served with the U.S. Air Force. Its secondary mission is to direct other aircraft in attacks on ground targets, a role called forward air controller-airborne; aircraft used primarily in this role are designated OA-10.

None of that stuff you've posted changes the fact that you can't operate an A-10 in an environment loaded to the gills with anti-aircraft weaponry and that we have weapons systems that don't need to fly so close to the ground to be effective; nor does it account for the monetary or logistics/support costs of keeping this aircraft in the inventory.

 

[IronWing]

Um, so this happened:


RT America ceases productions and lays off most of its staff

RT America ceases productions and lays off most of its staff

RT America will cease productions and lay off most of its staff, according to a memo CNN obtained from T&R Productions, the production company behind the Russian state-funded network.

www.cnn.com

Crap! Where will conservatives source their claims now?

 

[rommelrommel]

None of that stuff you've posted changes the fact that you can't operate an A-10 in an environment loaded to the gills with anti-aircraft weaponry and that we have weapons systems that don't need to fly so close to the ground to be effective; nor does it account for the monetary or logistics/support costs of keeping this aircraft in the inventory.

Well, they did think the A10 would fly in fairly non-permissive environments and it *could* have a lot of effect on these types of convoys but would suffer significant losses.

As you point out, given the other weapons available, they would be more of a last resort than a first option.

 

[UNCjigga]

Some thoughts on Putin’s current end game:

I think Putin believes he can create an entrenched autocracy in Russia similar to Assad’s in Syria. No matter how many sanctions or how many turn against him, he will have the military resources and a handful of allies to repel any opposition. If people get out of line, he has no problem bombing his own cities similar to what he’s doing in Ukraine.

As for Ukraine, he’ll reduce it to rubble like he did Syria. He doesn’t mind if refugees escape to the EU—in fact he prefers it. Similar to what he did with Syria, he is all too happy to flood the EU with hungry mouths to feed. That’s why they negotiated safe passage. Every person fleeing across the border is one less resistance fighter and one more drain on EU resources. Over the long run, he might think he can leverage these Slavic peoples against the native population and create pockets of unrest similar to how he’s played liberals against conservatives elsewhere.

 

[nicalandia]

Having to use a wheelbarrow full of bills to buy a loaf of bread?

Or I guess they can just start printing 1Million Ruble bills.....then only need to carry a shoebox full to buy bread.

Blast from the Past? Russian Soldier Burning Worthless Soviet Rubles

 

[Roger Wilco]

Seeing reports of fire at the nuclear plant.

 

[hal2kilo]

This has got to be a morale killer back home in the Federation.

Russian Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky killed by Ukrainians in ‘major demotivator’ for invading army (yahoo.com)

 

[Roger Wilco]

This could be catastrophic if firefighters can’t cool the reactor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499542625560539143

 

[Zorba]

Seeing reports of fire at the nuclear plant.

Here's a link. Can't believe they are aiming for a nuke plant.

Putin likens Western sanctions to war as Russian assault traps Ukrainian civilians

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Western sanctions were akin to war as his forces pressed their assault on Ukraine on Saturday for a 10th day and the IMF warned the conflict would have a "severe impact" on the global economy.

www.reuters.com

 

[Artorias]

Yeah that's a wrap folks. Ukraine is going to be irradiated wasteland.

Putin intends to rule over the ashes of Ukraine. Fucking shoot this guy already.

If that shit blows, actually that's half of Europe gone. Welcome to WW3.

 

[Artorias]

Live stream of the plant on fire.

 

[Leymenaide]

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Plant spokesman says Russian troops have begun shelling Europe's largest nuclear power station in Ukraine.

7:07 PM · Mar 3, 2022

If this plant goes the radiation over western Europe will be a huge problem.

This appears to be true if it is It is an act of war against the west of Europe.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Supposedly, if firefighters can reach the site, the risk of a meltdown is still small.

However, if Vlad doesn’t get his shit out of the way and stop shooting the damn thing, he is in for a whole different level of pain, as are the civilians and troops.

 

[nickqt]

Um, so this happened:


RT America ceases productions and lays off most of its staff

http://[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/media/rt-america-layoffs/index.html

[/URL]

A small victory for non-treasonous Americans.

 

[Meghan54]

Yeah that's a wrap folks. Ukraine is going to be irradiated wasteland.

Putin intends to rule over the ashes of Ukraine. Fucking shoot this guy already.

If that shit blows, actually that's half of Europe gone. Welcome to WW3.

"If I can't have Ukraine, no one can...."

 

[Roger Wilco]

Fuck

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499550030717493248

elevated rad levels

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499551505153622016

 

[manly]

Some thoughts on Putin’s current end game:

I think Putin believes he can create an entrenched autocracy in Russia similar to Assad’s in Syria. No matter how many sanctions or how many turn against him, he will have the military resources and a handful of allies to repel any opposition. If people get out of line, he has no problem bombing his own cities similar to what he’s doing in Ukraine.

As for Ukraine, he’ll reduce it to rubble like he did Syria. He doesn’t mind if refugees escape to the EU—in fact he prefers it. Similar to what he did with Syria, he is all too happy to flood the EU with hungry mouths to feed. That’s why they negotiated safe passage. Every person fleeing across the border is one less resistance fighter and one more drain on EU resources. Over the long run, he might think he can leverage these Slavic peoples against the native population and create pockets of unrest similar to how he’s played liberals against conservatives elsewhere.

There are still possibilities that don't result in Putin being deposed within a year.

One, he could destroy major cities and overthrow the Zelenskyy government. This is most likely a Pyrrhic victory in the long run. Russia would be a pariah state for a very long time, and deteriorating living standards could destabilize his total control.

If Kyiv turns back the main Russian strike forces, Putin may have to downgrade his ambitions to "liberating" Donbas and controlling Mariupol and Kherson. These southern territories are important as Crimea doesn't have reliable potable water. So at least he wants to carve out strategic areas neighboring Crimea, and he could tell his people "Mission Accomplished."

 

[Jaskalas]

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Plant spokesman says Russian troops have begun shelling Europe's largest nuclear power station in Ukraine.

If we see increased radiation levels from this attack on the NPP, then the United States needs to immediately enter this war. Destroy everything in the Black Sea, take back Crimea, and kill every last Russian in Ukraine.

 

[Roger Wilco]

If we see increased radiation levels from this attack on the NPP, then the United States needs to immediately enter this war. Destroy everything in the Black Sea, take back Crimea, and kill every last Russian in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499551505153622016

 

[Jaskalas]

Fuck

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499550030717493248

elevated rad levels

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499551505153622016

Attack Russia NOW!!!!

Edit:
Could be premature? Hopefully a meltdown is not on the table? Lot of unknowns for how it plays out.
Wait and see.....

 

[Artorias]

If we see increased radiation levels from this attack on the NPP, then the United States needs to immediately enter this war. Destroy everything in the Black Sea, take back Crimea, and kill every last Russian in Ukraine.

Biden needs to fucking get on a call with Putin now.

 

[repoman0]

Attack Russia NOW!!!!

Afraid so. This is the line.

 

[kage69]

This is exactly what I was talking about like 100 pages ago, the very same site. Russians are going to irradiate the Dnieper and everyone down stream can eat a bag of dicks for the sanctions and assistance to Ukraine.

It's hard to quantify just how badly Putin needs to die.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Reactor 1 was hit. Supposedly under repair and nuclear fuel could not be relocated prior to attack.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499543907549519872