Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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amenx

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The sanctions are really going to sting. The billionaire oligarchs that support Putin are targeted. Its thought that Putins wealth is basically laundered and held by these oligarchs for him.
 
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Interesting article from 2 years ago:

As an edit: Did I forget to mention I LOVE the A-10? I've been "strafed" four times by Warthogs....a glorious experience every time! Knew a couple of Warthog pilots back in the late 1970's. Absolutely love the plane!
A fine article and it's a fine plane, but it was built for a different time and a different type of warfare. The article also seems to have some puzzling ideas about survivability of aircraft for modern CAS:
  • F-35 and F-22 survivability: why is it assumed that they need to be so close to the ground that they risk being shot up with bullets? Why can't you just pair the needed CAS with a forward air controller to use all those fancy precision-guided munitions we've purchased over the years?
  • The Air Force is never going to operate an A-10 at flight level where the pilot can have easy visual identification in an environment hostile to aircraft (either because of a lack of air superiority or a failure to neutralize legitimate threats on the ground)
    • If you need something closer to the ground, why not use helicopters to provide support?
    • If you truly need something for anti-ISIS type stuff, where anti-aircraft fire is non-existent, there are cheaper aircraft you can buy nowadays that could also potentially operate from unimproved runways closer to the action (like a Super Tucano)
 
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Mai72

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This channel is very interesting, called "Task and Purpose."

His argument is we need to stop looking at this war thru the eyes of Western media. He argues that this war is going exactly as planned because this is Russia and not the West.

*Russian militiary (historically) is perfectly fine with taking high casualities.
*Russian army views war very differently. They always send in their poorly trained, young conscripts and worst equipment first.
*The periodic slowdowns of the large convvoy isn't because the Russian military is having difficulty, but because they are setting up refueling points.
*The Russian military isn't having difficulty, but has stopped just outside Kyiv to setup a forwarding base, headquaters and to begin arterially strikes.
*Its going to be a very slow ongoing war that is going to fall in favor of the Red Army. Which, btw the Soviets did exactly the same tactics to the Germans to win WW2.

 

DisarmedDespot

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This channel is very interesting, called "Task and Purpose."

His argument is we need to stop looking at this war thru the eyes of Western media. He argues that this war is going exactly as planned because this is Russia and not the West.

*Russian militiary (historically) is perfectly fine with taking high casualities.
*Russian army views war very differently. They always send in their poorly trained, young conscripts and worst equipment first.
*The periodic slowdowns of the large convvoy isn't because the Russian military is having difficulty, but because they are setting up refueling points.
*The Russian military isn't having difficulty, but has stopped just outside Kyiv to setup a forwarding base, headquaters and to begin arterially strikes.
*Its going to be a very slow ongoing war that is going to fall in favor of the Red Army. Which, btw the Soviets did exactly the same tactics to the Germans to win WW2.

Haven't watched it yet, but going by your description (and his thumbnail)... He's probably an idiot.

You're telling me the VDV paratroopers are disposable rookies?
You're telling me T80-BVMs, BTR-82As and KA-52s are their worst equipment?
You're telling me taking three days to move three miles is acceptable?
You're telling me all those abandoned tanks,SAMs, artillery and dead men are planned out?

The Soviets traded men for time in the worst of the war, yeah, but, that's some terrifying overgeneralization. The Soviet army was cumbersome, but they're the same ones that pioneered the operational layer between the tactical and strategic. 'Throw shit at wall and hope for the best' wasn't a tactic, deep battle was.
 

Dave_5k

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RUSSIA has warned that hacking its satellites is an act of war after the country's space agency was reportedly hit by a cyberattack.
Don't forget the counterpoint: invading a peaceful country with 200,000 troops, attempting to assassinate its leader and overthrow its government, bombing its cities into rubble - are all definitely not acts of war. And anyone daring to call it a war will be arrested in our peace loving motherland.
 

K1052

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LOL Russians sending their top of the line MBTs and other gear to get incinerated by ambush squads and drones, abandoned by scared troops, or stuck in the mud as "cannon fodder" is hysterical.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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LOL Russians sending their top of the line MBTs and other gear to get incinerated by ambush squads and drones, abandoned by scared troops, or stuck in the mud as "cannon fodder" is hysterical.
Don't forget all the downed aircraft, which they now cannot even rebuild.
 
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K1052

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Haven't watched it yet, but going by your description (and his thumbnail)... He's probably an idiot.

You're telling me the VDV paratroopers are disposable rookies?
You're telling me T80-BVMs, BTR-82As and KA-52s are their worst equipment?
You're telling me taking three days to move three miles is acceptable?
You're telling me all those abandoned tanks,SAMs, artillery and dead men are planned out?

The Soviets traded men for time in the worst of the war, yeah, but, that's some terrifying overgeneralization. The Soviet army was cumbersome, but they're the same ones that pioneered the operational layer between the tactical and strategic. 'Throw shit at wall and hope for the best' wasn't a tactic, deep battle was.

*sees burnt out T-90s stuck in the mud*

Thick Russian accent: Obviously this is part of sham operation to deceive enemy and make think they are winning.
 

repoman0

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It is really something watching this country destroy itself …

Also in good news for Formula 1 fans, Dmitri Mazepin is kicked out and they pulled the Sochi race (not just this year but going forward I believe). If any sport was going to ignore the war it’d be F1, after all they still race in Saudi Arabia.
 

Meghan54

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A fine article and it's a fine plane, but it was built for a different time and a different type of warfare. The article also seems to have some puzzling ideas about survivability of aircraft for modern CAS:
  • F-35 and F-22 survivability: why is it assumed that they need to be so close to the ground that they risk being shot up with bullets? Why can't you just pair the needed CAS with a forward air controller to use all those fancy precision-guided munitions we've purchased over the years?
  • The Air Force is never going to operate an A-10 at flight level where the pilot can have easy visual identification in an environment hostile to aircraft (either because of a lack of air superiority or a failure to neutralize legitimate threats on the ground)
    • If you need something closer to the ground, why not use helicopters to provide support?
    • If you truly need something for anti-ISIS type stuff, where anti-aircraft fire is non-existent, there are cheaper aircraft you can buy nowadays that could also potentially operate from unimproved runways closer to the action (like a Super Tucano)
The A-10C Thunderbolt II is the first Air Force aircraft specially designed for close air support of ground forces. They are simple, effective and survivable twin-engine jet aircraft that can be used against light maritime attack aircraft and all ground targets, including tanks and other armored vehicles.

The A-10C offers excellent maneuverability at low airspeeds and altitude while maintaining a highly accurate weapons-delivery platform. They can loiter near battle areas for extended periods of time, are capable of austere landings and operate under 1,000-foot ceilings (303.3 meters) with 1.5-mile (2.4 kilometers) visibility. Additionally, with the capability of carrying precision guided munitions and unguided munitions, they can employ above, below and in the weather. Their wide combat radius and short takeoff and landing capability permit operations in and out of locations near front lines. Using night vision goggles, A-10C pilots can conduct their missions during darkness.

Its airframe was designed for durability, with measures such as 1,200 pounds (540 kg) of titanium armor to protect the cockpit and aircraft systems, enabling it to absorb damage and continue flying. The aircraft can survive direct hits from armor-piercing and high explosive projectiles up to 23mm. Their self-sealing fuel cells are protected by internal and external foam. Manual systems back up their redundant hydraulic flight-control systems. This permits pilots to fly and land when hydraulic power is lost.

The Thunderbolt II can be serviced and operated from bases with limited facilities near battle areas. Many of the aircraft's parts are interchangeable left and right, including the engines, main landing gear and vertical stabilizers.

The A-10 was designed to provide close air support (CAS) to friendly ground troops by attacking armored vehicles, tanks, and other enemy ground forces; it is the only production-built aircraft designed solely for CAS to have served with the U.S. Air Force. Its secondary mission is to direct other aircraft in attacks on ground targets, a role called forward air controller-airborne; aircraft used primarily in this role are designated OA-10.
 

dank69

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This channel is very interesting, called "Task and Purpose."

His argument is we need to stop looking at this war thru the eyes of Western media. He argues that this war is going exactly as planned because this is Russia and not the West.

*Russian militiary (historically) is perfectly fine with taking high casualities.
*Russian army views war very differently. They always send in their poorly trained, young conscripts and worst equipment first.
*The periodic slowdowns of the large convvoy isn't because the Russian military is having difficulty, but because they are setting up refueling points.
*The Russian military isn't having difficulty, but has stopped just outside Kyiv to setup a forwarding base, headquaters and to begin arterially strikes.
*Its going to be a very slow ongoing war that is going to fall in favor of the Red Army. Which, btw the Soviets did exactly the same tactics to the Germans to win WW2.

That video thumbnail should be enough for any sane person to reject it on sight.
 

Meghan54

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They just need to print more then... what's the worst that could happen? at least the Ruble is not the Venezuelan Bolivar..Yet

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Having to use a wheelbarrow full of bills to buy a loaf of bread?

Or I guess they can just start printing 1Million Ruble bills.....then only need to carry a shoebox full to buy bread.