Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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trenchfoot

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Looks like they got into the tank farm and the munitions storage areas at Morozovsk.

I do love Soviet airbase infrastructure where they put most of their munitions either in big sheds or just laying out in the open in their cases. Who needs a bunker when all the stuff that goes boom is like 500m from the flight line lol.


To El Jefe Putie: We are sending you these wonderful sparkling and celebratory gifts in return for murdering, kidnapping and torturing the untold thousands upon thousands of Ukrainians defending their homeland. These generous offerings being sent to you and yours will be as bountiful and as frequent as possible. Just so you know, these gifts being sent your way by Pres. Zelenskyy and his partners from NATO will be sent to you over and over and over again until you just can't find a place to put them all.

Regards from the free democracies of the world.

PS - Your BFF Donnie Trump is looking rather ill these days because somebody tried to kill him recently. Maybe you should invite him over and show him a good time like you did those many years ago. We beg you please, with a cherry on top, OK?
 

trenchfoot

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Heavy Weapons Guy approves.

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Although the '$10,000 toilet seat' and '$600 hammer' thing is mostly a myth. (not that the military doesn't waste money) Basically when you buy a warplane or whatever for the sake of simplicity they spread R&D costs equally over every item in the delivery. So the R&D cost added to the radar is the same as for the included screwdriver to open up the radar.

Understood. A friend of mine who's in contracting at our shop works with the DOD for work done on the surface ships at Pearl Harbor. He told me he was/is always pleasantly surprised how much the gov't is willing to shell out for keeping our military up and running, especially for work that our shop pretty much has a monopoly on, due to our location and the specialty machinery and tooling we acquired from the Navy along with our experienced skilled labor that goes with it.
 

Perknose

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kage69

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Sounds like the Russians are starting to emulate their CCP buddies. There are reports of fallen Ukrainians being returned by Russia who are missing internal organs.



Larysa Salaeva , a prisoner of war's wife and head of the Freedom to Defenders of Mariupol campaigning group, said: 'It is already well-known that we receive the bodies of tortured prisoners during body exchanges'. 'We receive not only tortured bodies but also bodies, unfortunately, without organs,' she continued.

Speaking at a meeting in Ankara between representatives of the families of prisoners of war and the Ambassador of Ukraine to Turkey Vasyl Bodnar, Salaeva said she believes this confirms that the black market for organ transplantation in the Russian Federation is active. 'And, unfortunately, it operates with our prisoners of war,' she added.

'Therefore, I believe that this must be made known to the whole world to stop this crime.' Salaeva appealed to the Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to support the creation of a medical commission that would monitor the health status of both Ukrainian and Russian PoWs.

Salaeva called on Turkey to act as a mediator to resolve humanitarian issues linked to the return of prisoners of war. 'I would also like to ask Turkey, as the patron country in resolving all humanitarian issues related to the exchange of prisoners of war, to speak out,' she said.




Needs to be confirmed but I don't have any problem believing Russians would do shit like that.
 
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^^^ Or Alabama,

Families say Alabama inmates' bodies were returned without internal organs

3 days ago By KIM CHANDLER Associated Press. Six families, who had loved ones die in the state prison system, have filed lawsuits against the commissioner of the Alabama Department of Corrections and others, saying their family members' bodies were returned to them missing internal organs after undergoing state-ordered autopsies.
 
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^^^ Or Alabama,

Families say Alabama inmates' bodies were returned without internal organs

3 days ago By KIM CHANDLER Associated Press. Six families, who had loved ones die in the state prison system, have filed lawsuits against the commissioner of the Alabama Department of Corrections and others, saying their family members' bodies were returned to them missing internal organs after undergoing state-ordered autopsies.
If you read the article - at least some of the bodies the organs were not removed for transplant (blackmarket) but rather as part of process determining cause of death. Having said that the article did not appear to cover all six cases (though perhaps i skimmed it too fast).
 

kage69

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^^^ Or Alabama,

Families say Alabama inmates' bodies were returned without internal organs

3 days ago By KIM CHANDLER Associated Press. Six families, who had loved ones die in the state prison system, have filed lawsuits against the commissioner of the Alabama Department of Corrections and others, saying their family members' bodies were returned to them missing internal organs after undergoing state-ordered autopsies.

Just sounds like Alabama to me. They are rough on their for profit prisoner population. Their prisons have AC in the infirmaries and mental health areas, and for staff areas. Not for inmates. Idk if you've ever been to Alabama in August, but it sucked before climate change kicked in. They are basically slow cooking those inmates. Universal cooling for inmates is a problem for most states, but in places like Alabama it doesn't even seem to be a topic for discussion.

Not a surprise Trump and his boss Putin are quite popular in Alabama, what with the similar views not just on democracy but on the value of human life. Perhaps you noticed how Trump takes zero responsibility for any of the covid deaths in this country while he infected the White House? A lot like Putin with Russians and Ukrainians, no?
 
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Just sounds like Alabama to me. They are rough on their for profit prisoner population. Their prisons have AC in the infirmaries and mental health areas, and for staff areas. Not for inmates. Idk if you've ever been to Alabama in August, but it sucked before climate change kicked in. They are basically slow cooking those inmates.

Not a surprise Trump and his boss Putin are quite popular in Alabama, what with the similar views not just on democracy but on the value of human life. Perhaps you noticed how Trump takes zero responsibility for any of the covid deaths in this country while he infected the White House? A lot like Putin with Russians and Ukrainians, no?
While I hate trump and hate alabama please don't spread fud.
 
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One small sanctions innovation that seems to be starting to work:

" Craig Kennedy, an esteemed Russia-watcher at Harvard, wrote in December that something seemed to be up with the Russian shadow fleet. In short, he noticed that the US had sanctioned eight ships, rather than the companies behind them, and this seemed to have sidelined them.

Every ship has a registration number painted in 6ft-high letters on the side of the hull, and it turns out that putting that number on the sanctions list seems to make it stick better than if you put the name of the owner or manager on it. Your counterparties become less willing to accept your explanation about how actually the ship has been sold to some new Marshall Islands entity.Shortly after, the US stuck sanctions on dozens more ships. The effect has been rather dramatic.

This chart shows what happened to the amount of oil they picked up in the months before and after they were US-listed.This appears to have been an inadvertent policy innovation: US officials did not believe, at the start of the year, that these sanctions would be so effective. But this tweak works."

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This seems interesting

Russian Black Sea Fleet Submarine Destroyed in Crimea Strike

The "Rostov-on-Don" is the only known Russian submarine casualty of Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.


"There was "significant damage" to the submarine before it was repaired and tested in Sevastopol, Kyiv said on Saturday.

"As a result of the hit, the boat sank on the spot," Ukraine's armed forces said. It had an estimated cost of around $300 million, according to Kyiv's military."

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"The Ukrainian General Staff announced in a social media post that the Rostov-On-Don, a vessel classified by NATO as one of four Kilo-class Russian submarines capable of firing Kalibr missiles, was "successfully attacked" and sunk "on the spot" on Friday as the result of a strike launched by Ukrainian missile and Naval forces.

The same diesel-powered sub had been previously damaged in a similar missile strike in September, the Ukrainian military said, adding, "The destruction of 'Rostov-on-Don' once again proves that there is no safe place for the Russian fleet in the Ukrainian territorial waters of the Black Sea."

 
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Paratus

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This seems interesting

Russian Black Sea Fleet Submarine Destroyed in Crimea Strike

The "Rostov-on-Don" is the only known Russian submarine casualty of Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.


"There was "significant damage" to the submarine before it was repaired and tested in Sevastopol, Kyiv said on Saturday.

"As a result of the hit, the boat sank on the spot," Ukraine's armed forces said. It had an estimated cost of around $300 million, according to Kyiv's military."

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"The Ukrainian General Staff announced in a social media post that the Rostov-On-Don, a vessel classified by NATO as one of four Kilo-class Russian submarines capable of firing Kalibr missiles, was "successfully attacked" and sunk "on the spot" on Friday as the result of a strike launched by Ukrainian missile and Naval forces.

The same diesel-powered sub had been previously damaged in a similar missile strike in September, the Ukrainian military said, adding, "The destruction of 'Rostov-on-Don' once again proves that there is no safe place for the Russian fleet in the Ukrainian territorial waters of the Black Sea."

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Can’t be much left of the fleet by this time.
 
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hal2kilo

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^^^ Or Alabama,

Families say Alabama inmates' bodies were returned without internal organs

3 days ago By KIM CHANDLER Associated Press. Six families, who had loved ones die in the state prison system, have filed lawsuits against the commissioner of the Alabama Department of Corrections and others, saying their family members' bodies were returned to them missing internal organs after undergoing state-ordered autopsies.
I wonder how much money someone made on those organs.