Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[misuspita]

Yeah, it's a matter of time until you'll see a swarm of AI drones that will be almost completely independent, and that will need a lot of directed energy fire or fragmentation munition to destroy. Interesting times ahead, feels like the advent of tanks in the ww1...

 

[Perknose]

Before long, and especially at the high end for military use, drones will no longer be remote piloted. Rendering jamming useless.

We shall call them airplanes!

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, it's a matter of time until you'll see a swarm of AI drones that will be almost completely independent, and that will need a lot of directed energy fire or fragmentation munition to destroy. Interesting times ahead, feels like the advent of tanks in the ww1...

I think some sort of CIWS adjacent system would be highly effective against them but the main problem there is those are short range and fixed.

 

[Paratus]

I think some sort of CIWS adjacent system would be highly effective against them but the main problem there is those are short range and fixed.

https://imgur.com/RKO62Fv

CIWS adjacent? Say no more!

 

[K1052]

I think some sort of CIWS adjacent system would be highly effective against them but the main problem there is those are short range and fixed.

This is what M-LIDS is designed for.

 

[K1052]

Some interesting video of Ukrainians using FPV drones with what I assume are thermobaric charges to tidy up a manned Russian field fortification.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819388447573901814

 

[Brainonska511]

I think some sort of CIWS adjacent system would be highly effective against them but the main problem there is those are short range and fixed.

Time to bring back mobile anti-aircraft guns (and add some auto tracking) since bullets and shells are significantly cheaper than missiles.

 

[brycejones]

Time to bring back mobile anti-aircraft guns (and add some auto tracking) since bullets and shells are significantly cheaper than missiles.

Here we go!

M247 Sergeant York - Wikipedia

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Just another $495B for development and it will be ready to go!

 

[Brainonska511]

Here we go!

M247 Sergeant York - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Just another $495B for development and it will be ready to go!

Because we need 8000 different change orders and work needs to be spread over a minimum of 300 congressional districts.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

We shall call them airplanes!

And then we shall devise a way to control those remotely!

 

[K1052]

Time to bring back mobile anti-aircraft guns (and add some auto tracking) since bullets and shells are significantly cheaper than missiles.

There actually is a lot of interest in this and with modern programmable ammunition larger caliber guns are even more effective at range. Quite a few Houthi drones have been downed by 76mm and 5inch naval guns recently. The Navy is very aware that they can't just light million dollar standard missiles for every threat and that it wastes precious magazine capacity thats needed against cruise/ballistic missiles.

The issue with using them for land defense is that anything static and effective will get smoked by ballistic missiles. So if it has to be mobile I doubt anything bigger than 57mm is practical which still probably gets you 10km of anti-aircraft range.

 

[K1052]

New Russian army sleep paralysis demon just dropped.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819380946954535412

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

With Russia digging out their old stuff, where are all the German 88s?

 

[K1052]

With Russia digging out their old stuff, where are all the German 88s?

The irony is that the same machines that made the barrels for these are almost certainly making the barrels for their new equipment lol.

 

[evident]

New Russian army sleep paralysis demon just dropped.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819380946954535412

so this is a drone with a long fiber optic wire attached to it?

 

[K1052]

so this is a drone with a long fiber optic wire attached to it?

Yes, like wire guided ATGMs and torpedos.

 

[K1052]

Ukrainians sure have been up to some stuff.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819407352329535815

 

[brycejones]

Ukrainians sure have been up to some stuff.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819407352329535815

So this is basically a micro SDB?

 

[K1052]

So this is basically a micro SDB?

Not exactly since these laser guided seems to be the preference for these smaller munitions. SDB-I is GPS/INS.

The Ukrainian munition should dramatically increase the effectiveness of Baba Yaga missions since they can guide right into every target they want.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The 88s were kind of a joke above, but seriously ...

What would scattered Flak do against drones? A cloud of flak played hell with planes. Drones too small? One or two pellets would take one out, no? Rather than needing several to do a plane?

 

[trenchfoot]

https://imgur.com/RKO62Fv

CIWS adjacent? Say no more!

Nice. Although when I WAG'd how much it cost for a two second squeeze on the trigger I cringed. And thinking about how much a toilet seat costs in our military aircraft, I'm guessing my estimate is horribly underpriced.

 

[fskimospy]

Nice. Although when I WAG'd how much it cost for a two second squeeze on the trigger I cringed. And thinking about how much a toilet seat costs in our military aircraft, I'm guessing my estimate is horribly underpriced.

Heavy Weapons Guy approves.



Although the '$10,000 toilet seat' and '$600 hammer' thing is mostly a myth. (not that the military doesn't waste money) Basically when you buy a warplane or whatever for the sake of simplicity they spread R&D costs equally over every item in the delivery. So the R&D cost added to the radar is the same as for the included screwdriver to open up the radar.

 

[hal2kilo]

This is what M-LIDS is designed for.

Damn, I worked on DOD contracts for almost 40 years, and the glossaries required to keep up with the acronyms are never ending.

 

[K1052]

Looks like they got into the tank farm and the munitions storage areas at Morozovsk.

I do love Soviet airbase infrastructure where they put most of their munitions either in big sheds or just laying out in the open in their cases. Who needs a bunker when all the stuff that goes boom is like 500m from the flight line lol.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819533359195763064

 

[trenchfoot]

Some interesting video of Ukrainians using FPV drones with what I assume are thermobaric charges to tidy up a manned Russian field fortification.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819388447573901814

Shiiiieet, I am so frick'in glad those little fly'in monsters weren't around when I was bunkered up in a hole. That's ass puckering toe curling nightmare worthy right there.