Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Young Grasshopper

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In principle, we should all want Ukraine to win this war and regain all the territory seized by Russia since 2014. In practice, that outcome will not be attainable in the absence of a collapse of either the Russian government or the Russian army’s morale, neither of which seems imminent. Rather than risk a protracted war with the added danger of waning Western support, Ukraine needs to lock in what it has already achieved. It has exposed the limits of Russian military power. It has established credible claims to EU and North Atlantic Treaty Organization membership. It has transformed its international image from a den of corruption to a land of heroes.

More than you might think can be achieved while you await the return of enemy-occupied territories. Think only of South Korea’s extraordinary economic and political progress over 70 years, even though the armistice of 1953 has never become a fully fledged peace and there remains a highly dangerous border zone between it and a hostile neighbor. Fact: In 1991, per capita GDP was slightly higher in Ukraine than in South Korea. Today, South Koreans are four times richer.

Sounds like someone is trying to sell a frozen conflict to the public. I told you guys this last month:

-Blinken in Ukraine for not a 1 day visit like usual, but a 2 day visit. Most likely there to convince Zelensky into a frozen conflict

-Blinken stating if Ukraine wants to negotiate, we will be right there with them

-Poland lashing out at Ukraine. No way Poland lashes out at Zelensky without the backing/approval of the US to provide diplomatic cover

-Botched Ukrainian missile strike that killed 17. Tried to blame it on Russia then got caught by the NYT

-Kissinger met with Zelensky, IMO to try and sell him on a frozen conflict

-Support for continued funding of the proxy war dropping, not just here but in the EU

-Elections in a little over a year and Bidens approval rating are in the tank, which would also drag down the Democratic Party

- Hyped counteroffensive producing 0.25% gains

-EU energy prices will rise in the next 2 seasons due to weather, and Putin/MBS colluding to screw over Biden on oil shortages


NATO DESPERATLY wants a frozen conflict. They’re trying to get Zelensky to say the magic words so they can all say they support Ukraines decision to a frozen conflict, blah blah blah.

The problem of course, is NATO has rejected any idea of a peace agreement/frozen conflict in the past. Not to mention, these clowns never keep their words on these types of agreements. Didn’t happen with Minsk 2, and didn’t happen when a reported agreement was reached last March by Ukraine and Russia only to have Boris Johnson come in and tear it all up.


My guess? Russia tells them to fuck off once they’re done grinding down enough Ukrainian troops in the north and south, they will launch a new offensive once the cold/mud/rain/snow seasons sets in.
 

Young Grasshopper

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Do you ever take a step back and think about how weird it is that you’re actively rooting for the genocidal invasion?

Do you think that makes you a bad person?

Do you ever take a step back and think about how weird is it that you and others start frothing at the mouth when you hear NATO is sending more weapons designed to kill someone’s brother, son or husband?


It’s quite sick, to be honest.
 
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Jaskalas

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Providing the defenders the means to survive you, it is the least we could do.
Why are you so eager to kill both Ukrainians and Russians in a genocidal invasion?
Do you know what will happen to you if you keep this up?

Take the money, give up your commanders, and run. While you still can.
 

RnR_au

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A good read. Hope the West takes note!

 
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brycejones

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Do you ever take a step back and think about how weird is it that you and others start frothing at the mouth when you hear NATO is sending more weapons designed to kill someone’s brother, son or husband?


It’s quite sick, to be honest.

All Russia has to do is withdraw. Now, since that won't happen and Putin needs some more bullet sponges on the front line, why are you still posting here?
 
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fskimospy

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Do you ever take a step back and think about how weird is it that you and others start frothing at the mouth when you hear NATO is sending more weapons designed to kill someone’s brother, son or husband?


It’s quite sick, to be honest.
No, it’s a good thing - every human has the right to defend themselves and by helping Ukraine defend itself we are doing good work.

Remember, all Russia needs to do to be 100% safe from NATO weapons is to leave Ukraine.

You didn’t answer my question though - isn’t genocide bad? Aren’t illegal invasions bad? Doesn’t it make you a bad person to support both?
 

Young Grasshopper

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No, it’s a good thing - every human has the right to defend themselves and by helping Ukraine defend itself we are doing good work.

Remember, all Russia needs to do to be 100% safe from NATO weapons is to leave Ukraine.

You didn’t answer my question though - isn’t genocide bad? Aren’t illegal invasions bad? Doesn’t it make you a bad person to support both?


The only thing Ukrainians have to defend themselves from these days are their fellow Ukrainian 'recruiters'/kidnappers showing up to their home/place of employment like this guy:
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Kind of sad when you have to pull a gun on a fellow Ukrainian to save your own life isn't? Others have had to pay a years worth of salary to get bogus medical exemptions to stay alive. What are your thoughts on that? Is this your definition of 'doing good work'?

Anyone who is out there in the battlefield isn't there by choice, they were forced into the meatgrinder by these criminals. And anyone who was there voluntarily early on in the conflict is either dead or missing a limb or two.
 

fskimospy

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The only thing Ukrainians have to defend themselves from these days are their fellow Ukrainian 'recruiters'/kidnappers showing up to their home/place of employment like this guy:
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Kind of sad when you have to pull a gun on a fellow Ukrainian to save your own life isn't? Others have had to pay a years worth of salary to get bogus medical exemptions to stay alive. What are your thoughts on that? Is this your definition of 'doing good work'?

Anyone who is out there in the battlefield isn't there by choice, they were forced into the meatgrinder by these criminals. And anyone who was there voluntarily early on in the conflict is either dead or missing a limb or two.
I mean that and the genocidal invading Russian Army.

For the third time - You think illegal invasions and genocide are bad, right? If so, why support them? Doesn’t that make you a bad person?
 

Zorba

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Do you ever take a step back and think about how weird is it that you and others start frothing at the mouth when you hear NATO is sending more weapons designed to kill someone’s brother, son or husband?


It’s quite sick, to be honest.
I weep to the same level my grandfather did about sending weapons to Britain to kill Nazis.
 
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zinfamous

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The only thing Ukrainians have to defend themselves from these days are their fellow Ukrainian 'recruiters'/kidnappers showing up to their home/place of employment like this guy:
`

Kind of sad when you have to pull a gun on a fellow Ukrainian to save your own life isn't? Others have had to pay a years worth of salary to get bogus medical exemptions to stay alive. What are your thoughts on that? Is this your definition of 'doing good work'?

Anyone who is out there in the battlefield isn't there by choice, they were forced into the meatgrinder by these criminals. And anyone who was there voluntarily early on in the conflict is either dead or missing a limb or two.

the desperate mewling form this fucking toad is a bit amusing. can't even answer a question anymore. Just regurgitates straight up fake nonsense from fucking Russian sources.

look at this fucking toad kill itself in front of us.
 
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