Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[cytg111]

Do you want to become an anti-vax, flat earth, lizard people believing Qtard?

Because that's how you become an anti-vax, flat earth, lizard people believing Qtard.

It's 100% the "silo" he is in. It's incredible. Mass psychosis induced over the internet.
I am taken back for a second, could it possibly be the master behind this quote that is behind it all?

"I'm going to become Rich and Famous after I invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the Internet"
- Legend.
(https://web.archive.org/web/20021018014721/https://bash.org/?4281)

Cause stabbing has been done. To their faces. Over the internet.

 

[cytg111]

Or maybe SpaceX thought that Ukraine would abide by the scope of agreement for what was acceptable use of Starlink which included not putting Starlink terminals on "f---ing drones trying to blow up Russian ships".

Nah. Pick a fucking side.

It's quite obvious Elon has ZERO people skills, for all the burning and utterly destruction of his brand (the myth of his genius maverick tony stark omnipotence lord..), yet to restore it all, all he had to do was go all in on this thing. But he wobbled. He flipped. He flopped. He sucked.

This man is not a genius.

 

[you2]

Really makes you wonder what happened to him to make him hate his own country so much that he’d rather side with a country as culturally and morally degenerate as Russia.

Not that confusing at all you just have to understand Russia is his country and he is as morally corrupt as most russians who work for the govt.

 

[cytg111]

Not that confusing at all you just have to understand Russia is his country and he is as morally corrupt as most russians who work for the govt.

Well then he has been playing the part for 10 years plus. Take a dive on his post history, he really is a lost soul

 

[trenchfoot]

Nah. Pick a fucking side.

It's quite obvious Elon has ZERO people skills, for all the burning and utterly destruction of his brand (the myth of his genius maverick tony stark omnipotence lord..), yet to restore it all, all he had to do was go all in on this thing. But he wobbled. He flipped. He flopped. He sucked.

This man is not a genius.

He may satisfy the requirements for being a savant, a Sheldon Cooper on an endless 'roid ride of sorts, but as Elon exposes more and more of his persona, it really looks like he is barren of any sense of humanity, of the common sense and street etiquette that most anyone with half a brain would possess. Somewhere in his growth he took a trip to the twilight zone and stepped back into the real world believing that the world really should see things his way because he found himself to be a genius.

What he really ought to do is go slink back into his skunk works lab and do that thing he's so good at while minding his own freak'in business and not be let back out until he's learned how to be a well-rounded human being. It's small wonder that he taken a shine to Trump. He gets it how to fling his cash around to get his way. What he's missing is how to do it without being a self-serving prick like Trump and his ilk.

 

[you2]

Well then he has been playing the part for 10 years plus. Take a dive on his post history, he really is a lost soul

I doubt he lost his soul; most people working for the Russian govt never had a soul....

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Well then he has been playing the part for 10 years plus. Take a dive on his post history, he really is a lost soul

His account was made in 2007, first post in 2016. Nothing weird there.

 

[cytg111]

His account was made in 2007, first post in 2016. Nothing weird there.

And regular posting until crimea, then regular posting again until the invasion. I mean, that's a long game. He has been consistent in his love for Putin cock.

 

[RnR_au]

the world should sue for peace now and let Russia take what they claim is theirs: it's the only way to prevent unnecessary bloodshed in response to all the evil things we are making Russia do.

This is literally the end game now for Putin. Using the West to backstab Ukraine and force them to the peace table and make Ukraine part of the Russian sphere of influence rather than the European.

Important read;

The Second Front

Historian Françoise Thom says, Russia barely gave in on its original plan to settle a pro-Russian government in Kyiv.

en.desk-russie.eu

 

[zinfamous]

Or maybe SpaceX thought that Ukraine would abide by the scope of agreement for what was acceptable use of Starlink which included not putting Starlink terminals on "f---ing drones trying to blow up Russian ships".

I get it, but why isn't their argument for this "Uh whoops?", instead of the current: "Ukraine must cease all use of our technology to defend themselves from violent invading fascist terrorists that only seek genocide and further world domination."

Because the first response sounds more normal whereas the one they are going with really just supports genocide. If anything, they should just STFU.

 

[Brovane]

I get it, but why isn't their argument for this "Uh whoops?", instead of the current: "Ukraine must cease all use of our technology to defend themselves from violent invading fascist terrorists that only seek genocide and further world domination."

Because the first response sounds more normal whereas the one they are going with really just supports genocide. If anything, they should just STFU.

SpaceX should never had been in that position to begin with. Instead Ukraine put a operation into progress that depended on using Starlink that violated their agreement with SpaceX. Did anybody in Ukraine government think that maybe we should talk to the US government and SpaceX before we start the operation? Apparently not, instead they waited until they lost contact with their drone ships. The US government has a foreign military sales program for exactly this reason so private companies are not put in this position. Now Ukraine has terminals that the US government controls where they work.

 

[zinfamous]

SpaceX should never had been in that position to begin with. Instead Ukraine put a operation into progress that depended on using Starlink that violated their agreement with SpaceX. Did anybody in Ukraine government think that maybe we should talk to the US government and SpaceX before we start the operation? Apparently not, instead they waited until they lost contact with their drone ships. The US government has a foreign military sales program for exactly this reason so private companies are not put in this position. Now Ukraine has terminals that the US government controls where they work.

Why should Ukraine have done any of that? Consider that they have been fighting for their actual right to exist for one and a half years now. Are you prepared to stay outside of their situation and keep wagging your finger over "business contracts?" SpaceX can go eat a colossal bag of dicks for all of this, and that is truly the only reasonable way to look at this issue.

And I fucking guarantee you that the majority of SpaceX engineers and employees are on Ukraine's side here; they just aren't allowed beyond the cock-shaped firewall that is Elon.

 

[you2]

SpaceX should never had been in that position to begin with. Instead Ukraine put a operation into progress that depended on using Starlink that violated their agreement with SpaceX. Did anybody in Ukraine government think that maybe we should talk to the US government and SpaceX before we start the operation? Apparently not, instead they waited until they lost contact with their drone ships. The US government has a foreign military sales program for exactly this reason so private companies are not put in this position. Now Ukraine has terminals that the US government controls where they work.

How do you abide with an unwritten agreement for which the condition constantly change. Crimea is ukrainian land; they were defending their own territory. No difference than the current offensive. L

 

[Brovane]

Why should Ukraine have done any of that? Consider that they have been fighting for their actual right to exist for one and a half years now. Are you prepared to stay outside of their situation and keep wagging your finger over "business contracts?" SpaceX can go eat a colossal bag of dicks for all of this, and that is truly the only reasonable way to look at this issue.

And I fucking guarantee you that the majority of SpaceX engineers and employees are on Ukraine's side here; they just aren't allowed beyond the cock-shaped firewall that is Elon.

This happened last October, did you not realize that? The US government has already stepped in a rectified the situation by getting proper military hardware contracts in place, did you not realize that either? I would bet that since then that Ukraine has already used Starlink to attack targets in Crimea. Maybe you should be more worked up as to why it has taken so long for the Biden Administration to approve M1 Abrams, F-16 or ATACMS for Ukraine.

 

[Brovane]

How do you abide with an unwritten agreement for which the condition constantly change. Crimea is ukrainian land; they were defending their own territory. No difference than the current offensive. L

Reading this Shotwell indicates their was a agreement.

Using Starlink with drones went beyond the scope of an agreement SpaceX has with the Ukrainian government, Shotwell said, adding the contract was intended for humanitarian purposes such as providing broadband internet to hospitals, banks and families affected by Russia's invasion.

 

[A///]

Well it might make Russia's attempts in keeping Crimea inside Russia a futile endeavor.

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Its a defense minister that has many reasons to be motivated

Stalin was also an ethnic Georgian who both admired and disliked the Russian people at the same time according to a bio I once read on the man. I'm not sure where he got the name Joseph Stalin from but it's a far cry from his birth name.

Who was the right hand man for Stalin that killed scores of people for pleasure? Fat balding guy. I can't remember the name off hand.

Edit: Lavrentiy Beria.

 

[Amused]

Stalin was also an ethnic Georgian who both admired and disliked the Russian people at the same time according to a bio I once read on the man. I'm not sure where he got the name Joseph Stalin from but it's a far cry from his birth name.

Who was the right hand man for Stalin that killed scores of people for pleasure? Fat balding guy. I can't remember the name off hand.

Edit: Lavrentiy Beria.

Stalin's birth name:
Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili

 

[K1052]

Who was the right hand man for Stalin that killed scores of people for pleasure? Fat balding guy. I can't remember the name off hand.

Edit: Lavrentiy Beria.

Screw most of those Soviet assholes but Beria in particular. Khrushchev wasn’t perfect by any means but making that fat fuck unalive was a service to humanity.

 

[Ferrari355]

Stalin was also an ethnic Georgian who both admired and disliked the Russian people at the same time according to a bio I once read on the man. I'm not sure where he got the name Joseph Stalin from but it's a far cry from his birth name.

Who was the right hand man for Stalin that killed scores of people for pleasure? Fat balding guy. I can't remember the name off hand.

Edit: Lavrentiy Beria.

Stalin means something like made of steel. If I'm remembering right he called himself that because he was bullied a lot in school because he was really short so he wanted a "cool" sounding name to seem tough.

 

[fskimospy]

Not that confusing at all you just have to understand Russia is his country and he is as morally corrupt as most russians who work for the govt.

Possible but he definitely talks like a native English speaker.

Russia is a degenerate society in every way - one of the worst cultures on earth.

 

[IronWing]

Well then he has been playing the part for 10 years plus. Take a dive on his post history, he really is a lost soul

I think he’s written by multiple people. His posting style is all over the place.

 

[Jaskalas]

While this is most likely just bluster as Russia’s army has been decimated without NATO so much as throwing a punch you’re right to highlight the fact that if Russia could they would happily invade all of their neighbors.

Remember a core tenant of MAGA's America First policy, is to destroy NATO.
With Hungary and (soon to be) Slovakia on team Red, and Turkey up for the highest bidder.... AND any other right wing parties that can be paid off....

Does it matter if Ukraine holds a stalemate for a couple years or more? We have a REAL risk of betraying them, fracturing NATO, and doing everything possible to open the Baltics and Moldova up for Genocide. So long as Russia exists, this is a marathon, not a sprint. Until the current bloodshed is paused, then we are still only in the opening round. And future decisions and elections in NATO could have dire consequences for all involved.

The number of people around the world, who actually care, is frighteningly small. Humans just want other humans to die. Most of Asia is aligned in supporting this. The "Global South" shrugs. THE UNITED STATES might help them in just a year and a half.... This is a war of attrition and we are not nearly as committed to victory as we need to be.

 

[Zorba]

From the Washington Post. Should private companies finance a foreign country's war?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/07/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine-russia-invasion/

Shotwell, president of SpaceX, also felt strongly that the company should stop subsidizing the Ukrainian military operation. Providing humanitarian help was fine, but private companies should not be financing a foreign country’s war. That should be left to the government, which is why the United States has a foreign military sales program that puts a layer of protection between private companies and foreign governments. Other companies, including big and profitable defense contractors, were charging billions to supply weapons to Ukraine, so it seemed unfair that Starlink, which was not yet profitable, should do it for free.

“We initially gave the Ukrainians free service for humanitarian and defense purposes, such as keeping up their hospitals and banking systems,” she says. “But then they started putting them on f---ing drones trying to blow up Russian ships. I’m happy to donate services for ambulances and hospitals and mothers. That’s what companies and people should do. But it’s wrong to pay for military drone strikes.”

In the end, with Shotwell’s help, SpaceX made arrangements with various government agencies to pay for increased Starlink service in Ukraine, with the military and CIA working out the terms of service. More than 100,000 new satellite dishes were sent to Ukraine at the beginning of 2023. In addition, Starlink launched a companion service called Starshield, which was specifically designed for military use. SpaceX licensed Starshield satellites and services to the U.S. military and other agencies, allowing the government to determine how they could and should be used in Ukraine and elsewhere.

No one has complained about them charging. People have complained about them saying they weren't going to, then flipping off the switch was demanding payment like a whiny bitch on twitter. SpaceX should be paid for the service, they should've worked out the payment behind the scenes without turning the service off in the meantime.

SpaceX also knew Ukraine was using Starlink for military strikes long before they flipped the switch off.

 

[bononos]

It sounds like Ukraine is making a big push south of Robotyne.

ISW hasn't made a comment about that yet. But Zelensky sounds like he is hoping for a breakthrough.

 

[Jaskalas]

It sounds like Ukraine is making a big push south of Robotyne.

Youtube titles and thumbnails are required to be hype, aka propaganda, for the algorithm to not completely ignore them. If the advertisement for the video said "Ukraine captures a couple more treelines", as is the actual content, no one would click it, it wouldn't make any money, and then youtube wouldn't show it to anyone new.

Do not make assessments based on the false advertisements of a title and a thumbnail. The chances of them being real are near zero.