Rush Limbaugh is a Big Mean Idiot

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
An update on the FACTS of the story
Here is the OP

Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Rush Limbaugh today accused Michael J. Fox, actor and Parkinson's Disease victim, of deliberately going off of his meds to appear on camera with exaggerated symptoms of his disease for dramatic effect. Fox appeared in a recent Clair McHaskill (D-MO) Senate campaign ad, touting the need for stem cell research. Limbaugh even goes so far as to accuse Fox of faking his symptoms all together.

Here is the Rush line in question

"I stated when I saw the ad, I was commenting to you about it, that he was either off the medication or he was acting. He is an actor, after all."

Here is a quote from Fox's own book "Lucky Man"

"I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling,"

So what Rush said was 100% TRUE. He does go off his medicine and he does so in order to illustrate what Parkinson's is really like. Here is a link to Fox's own web site, search for "subcommittee" and you will see the statement. Link

Here is a video where Fox himself says that he was off his medicine Fox video
The quote right from Fox "I didn't take it deliberately as some kind of theatrical thing but it seemed right for me to be -- to be uncomfortable in that situation."

So what Rush said and those who defended him (myself) are in the right here. Fox was most likely off his medicine when he filmed that ad. And he did it for theatrical effect.

Looks like a dozen or so of you owe me and Rush an apology, I'll be waiting...

BTW: On Fox and the meds thing: There is nothing wrong with Fox going off the meds for dramatic effect. My objection is that Fox has turned the search for a cure into a political battle. He might as well be saying "Vote for McHaskill if you want me to be cured, vote for Tallent if you don't want a cure." Which is very dishonest.

"most likely" is the best you can come up with? isn't that what Rush said the other day? what other "updated" facts do you have hmmmm?

you deserve no apology and neither does Rush.

rather than objecting that Fox use his disease for a political stance, you should be more upset that people like Rush hate him for it, simply because of partisan politics. MJF is doing what he can to help alot of people, there is nothing wrong with that. You said so yourself, there is nothing wrong with MJF showing us the full and dramatic toll this illness takes on the human body. Chris Reeves used his disabilty in much the same way, was he wrong too? Who else is better suited to bring these issues to light than those that are fighting the illnesses/diseases/disabilities on a daily basis?

and just to reiterate, there is no proof MJF skipped his meds for the ad. NONE.

Rush is a hateful person, whose sole purpose is his own individual wealth. You need to do yourself a favor and get off his jock.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Man, this just disgusts me that they would resort to these kinds of tactics.

Fox was obviously acting. The entire commercial said nothing about the issues and just jerked heartstrings.

What complete and total bullcrap. Par for the course with the lies of democrats and the "actors".

Hmmmm, isn't it surprising that a hollyliberal is pumping a democrat with no actual position? No, it's now. Par for the course. Same old crap, no real solutions.

count me in with the crowd who has lost all respect for Fox. Ever seen the South Park stem cell episode? See any similarities? Disgusting.

ps - I'm all for stem cell research. I just don't being played with a violin.

Acting how? Even if he did stop taking his meds to show the world the suffering he normally lives in off camera, he did it for a reason. Maybe he wanted to show the world how serious this disease is and how debilitating it becomes. The meds he takes have less and less effect as the disease progresses. Why do all sufferers of Parkinson's a disservice and appear online full of drugs that only mask the disease, but do nothing for sufferers long term?

 

[Aisengard]

All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

Because to these retards it's all well and good unless it affects a Republican's chance to get elected and continue to force their morality down our throats.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

As usual, another self-aggrandising democrap gets it wrong.

This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Sadly, your kind continue to give MJF a free pass and feel it's ok for him to mislead people about stem cell research, all because he's the Parkinson's Posterboy. The free pass is disgusting, yet typical and unsurprising.

A disease does not give you the right to mislead people. So don't get your panties in a twist and prance around, stating "He's got Parkinson's, how dare yuou question what he says?" It's pathetic that you lib posters in this forum think otherwise and continue to fling your verbal fecal matter all over the forums. You can continue to think otherwise, however it's just another reason why these commercials will backfire and why the democrap party will continue to be a party in shambles.

 

[UberNeuman]

Beavis: "heh-heh, he said demo-craps."
Butthead: "huhhuh... demo-craps...."
Beavis: "yeah yeah!"
Butthead: "huhhuh - demo-craps are cool.."

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Aisengard
All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

As usual, another self-aggrandising democrap gets it wrong.

This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Sadly, your kind continue to give MJF a free pass and feel it's ok for him to mislead people about stem cell research, all because he's the Parkinson's Posterboy. The free pass is disgusting, yet typical and unsurprising.

A disease does not give you the right to mislead people. So don't get your panties in a twist and prance around, stating "He's got Parkinson's, how dare yuou question what he says?" It's pathetic that you lib posters in this forum think otherwise and continue to fling your verbal fecal matter all over the forums. You can continue to think otherwise, however it's just another reason why these commercials will backfire and why the democrap party will continue to be a party in shambles.

"Untruths" "Misleading"?

 

[Termagant]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Aisengard
All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

As usual, another self-aggrandising democrap gets it wrong.

This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Sadly, your kind continue to give MJF a free pass and feel it's ok for him to mislead people about stem cell research, all because he's the Parkinson's Posterboy. The free pass is disgusting, yet typical and unsurprising.

A disease does not give you the right to mislead people. So don't get your panties in a twist and prance around, stating "He's got Parkinson's, how dare yuou question what he says?" It's pathetic that you lib posters in this forum think otherwise and continue to fling your verbal fecal matter all over the forums. You can continue to think otherwise, however it's just another reason why these commercials will backfire and why the democrap party will continue to be a party in shambles.

"Untruths" "Misleading"?

MJF lied when he didn't mention that embryonic stem cells have yet to cure any ailment, while adult stem cells have cured thousands of ailments.

Also MJF mislead when he failed to note that liberals want to force women to give up their eggs for embryonic stem cell research. They want to traffic in human babies. I saw this on a Republican campaign ad that CNN aired for discussion during The Wolf Blitzer Show.

Also MJF lied when he failed to point out that the Democrat he was stumping for had voted against a stem cell bill introduced by that crusader for human dignity, Rick Santorum.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Termagant

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Aisengard
All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

As usual, another self-aggrandising democrap gets it wrong.

This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Sadly, your kind continue to give MJF a free pass and feel it's ok for him to mislead people about stem cell research, all because he's the Parkinson's Posterboy. The free pass is disgusting, yet typical and unsurprising.

A disease does not give you the right to mislead people. So don't get your panties in a twist and prance around, stating "He's got Parkinson's, how dare yuou question what he says?" It's pathetic that you lib posters in this forum think otherwise and continue to fling your verbal fecal matter all over the forums. You can continue to think otherwise, however it's just another reason why these commercials will backfire and why the democrap party will continue to be a party in shambles.

"Untruths" "Misleading"?

MJF lied when he didn't mention that embryonic stem cells have yet to cure any ailment, while adult stem cells have cured thousands of ailments.

Also MJF mislead when he failed to note that liberals want to force women to give up their eggs for embryonic stem cell research. They want to traffic in human babies. I saw this on a Republican campaign ad that CNN aired for discussion during The Wolf Blitzer Show.

Also MJF lied when he failed to point out that the Democrat he was stumping for had voted against a stem cell bill introduced by that crusader for human dignity, Rick Santorum.

Batteries in my sarcasm meter dead?

 

[Aisengard]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Aisengard
All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

As usual, another self-aggrandising democrap gets it wrong.

This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Sadly, your kind continue to give MJF a free pass and feel it's ok for him to mislead people about stem cell research, all because he's the Parkinson's Posterboy. The free pass is disgusting, yet typical and unsurprising.

A disease does not give you the right to mislead people. So don't get your panties in a twist and prance around, stating "He's got Parkinson's, how dare yuou question what he says?" It's pathetic that you lib posters in this forum think otherwise and continue to fling your verbal fecal matter all over the forums. You can continue to think otherwise, however it's just another reason why these commercials will backfire and why the democrap party will continue to be a party in shambles.

Ahh, I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

MJF went on a commercial to support a candidate who he believed could help him, and others like him. The fact that you continue to believe that people with diseases should sit down and shut up because they don't support Republicans is despicable. I'm sorry the Republican running in Missouri doesn't care about what Michael J Fox cares about. The candidate he supports does, and that's all you need to know.

I wonder how you would feel about an Iraq war veteran going on TV supporting Bush and the Iraq War. I wouldn't agree with him, but I wouldn't condemn him for standing up for what he believes in.

I guess that's the difference between people like me and people like you.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
Ahh, I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

MJF went on a commercial to support a candidate who he believed could help him, and others like him. The fact that you continue to believe that people with diseases should sit down and shut up because they don't support Republicans is despicable. I'm sorry the Republican running in Missouri doesn't care about what Michael J Fox cares about. The candidate he supports does, and that's all you need to know.

I wonder how you would feel about an Iraq war veteran going on TV supporting Bush and the Iraq War. I wouldn't agree with him, but I wouldn't condemn him for standing up for what he believes in.

I guess that's the difference between people like me and people like you.

I think you can clearly make the statement that it is the Democrats who are desperate in this. Look at the two places where this has become an issue, MO and Maryland.
1. Talent leads in most MO polls. And as off Oct 16 Talent had over $4 million in the bank compared to McCaskill's $246,000. Those two things favor Talent in the last two weeks. I'd be surprised if he losses.

2. A poll last week showed Steele and Cardin TIED!!!! Maryland is a state where the Democrat usually wins the Senate race 65-34 or better! The fact that Steele is close at all is amazing. He may not win, but he should not even be polling above 40%, and yet he has in nearly half the polls. The state of Maryland is 54% Dem and 29% Rep. If Steele was to win it would be by far the biggest upset on election day. (I doubt he will win, but it is VERY close.)

So in two states where the Democrats are in danger of losing they roll out an ad that pulls at your heart strings and tells you that if you vote for Democrats there will be a cure for Parkinson?s. Total BS and desperation on behalf of the Democrats.

Next they will roll out an ad with skinny school children and start the ?Republicans want to cut school lunch programs so these kids will go hungry? attack again.

 

[wiin]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pabster
My point is that MJF and company are advocating embryonic stem cell research, which has provided no results.

Of course there's been "no results", you and your hero have banned the work and research.

Here you go dude:
Fox?s Foul

In a commercial drowning in false hope and overhype, Michael J. Fox, Claire McCaskill, and their funders don?t mention that stem-cell research ? including embryo-destroying research ? is already legal and happening not just in Missouri but across the U.S. What they also don?t tell you is that in creating a constitutional right to human cloning, the Missouri amendment is more radical than anything even the United Nations is currently willing to do. The commercial also doesn?t mention that there are some real potential drawbacks to jumping into embryonic-stem-cell research for Parkinson?s patients. Embryonic-stem-cell research is not the panacea its advocates would have you believe.

Michael J. Fox 'Victim' of Democrats

In an Oct. 23 story in Canada's Globe and Mail, researchers at the University of Rochester were said to have encountered what the newspaper called the "two extremes that have met in one dazzling, yet devastating experiment."Researchers there have for the first time essentially cured rats of a Parkinson's-like disease using human embryonic stem cells. But 10 weeks into the trial, they discovered brain tumors had begun to grow in every animal treated.


"Here we have this method that works so well to reverse the symptoms of Parkinson's," said lead investigator Steven Goldman, "But no matter how you look at it, it's an expanding mass and that's bad news."




Experts say that this has been the result in all cases when embryonic stem cells were used on lab animals. They develop tumors, some cancerous. Which is why no drug company will spend a dime on embryonic stem cell research. And why those who want to do the controversial research must rely on getting government funding.

A sobering setback in stem-cell research

"It's not ready for prime time, that's for sure."

Fact Sheet: Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Federal funding of research using existing embryonic stem cell lines is consistent with the President's belief in the fundamental value and sanctity of human life.

See, if you had done a little digging to educate yourself, you wouldn't be saying "you and your hero have banned the work and research". But, you would.

 

[Aisengard]

So a slim lag (what is it, 3%? That's nearly a statistical tie) in an incumbent race in a Republican state where the Republican has vast amounts of money has the Democrats sweating? Excuse me? And in an open race in Maryland, the Republican lagging 5-10 points (you're basing your opinion on one poll, I'll believe it when I see it buddy) is 'looking pretty good'?

Put on some deodorant, your desperation for good news is really stinking up the joint.

EDIT: And wiiin, banning the use of new lines of stem cells is just as good as banning the work altogether. I wonder how those flu vaccines would come along if Bush thought viruses were alive and sacred?

 

[Wheezer]

listen MJF is a competent adult capable of making his own decisions. He chose sides, for whatever reason it does not matter, he made his choice and now he has to live with and accept the fact that there are people who disagree with him and who will critisize him Parkinson's or not.

bottom line, he is a target ONLY because he made himself one. can't take it? stay the hell out of politics.

 

[Aisengard]

Actually I think he's taking it fine. Just making out those tools who suddenly make light of his disease because he stands up for what he believes in (and it doesn't coincide with the goose-stepping Republicans) all the more foolish.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Of course if you actually did any research you would discover those systems only appear IF Fox was taking his medicine!!!

Here's what William J. Weiner M.D., professor and chairman of the department of neurology at the University of Maryland Medical Center, told the New Republic on the matter:

What you are seeing on the video is side effects of the medication. He has to take that medication to sit there and talk to you like that. ... He's not over-dramatizing. ... [Limbaugh] is revealing his ignorance of Parkinson's disease, because people with Parkinson's don't look like that at all when they're not taking their medication. They look stiff, and frozen, and don't move at all. ... People with Parkinson's, when they've had the disease for awhile, are in this bind, where if they don't take any medication, they can be stiff and hardly able to talk. And if they do take their medication, so they can talk, they get all of this movement, like what you see in the ad.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2006/10/25/publiceye/entry2122806.shtml

The lack of compassion for the ill by embryonic stem cell research opponents is becoming quite apparent. This is in fact all about trying to mislead the public about the facts in support of your immoral ideology which is working to ensure that this research which could help millions of people can't continue. Of course you could care less about embroyos from invitro fertilization clinics just getting thrown away.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
Actually I think he's taking it fine. Just making out those tools who suddenly make light of his disease because he stands up for what he believes in (and it doesn't coincide with the goose-stepping Republicans) all the more foolish.

Just a thought...But where has MJF been for the last several years? I certainly haven't seen him out advocating anything. The last time I can recall hearing about him was when he testified before Congress some time ago.

And if he is really concerned ... why is this ridiculous ad only running in a couple hotly contested races in a couple states? Why not nationwide?

The only "tools" are the blind liberals who imply that MJF is beyond reproach because of his disease (not surprisingly, these same 'tools' tell us 9-11 families are beyond question as well...)

This is America. Fox has every right to spew his garbage, and likewise, Rush has every right to shoot it down.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Quite possibly THE stupidest thing ever written on this forum, and that's really saying something given how lowbrow it usually is.

Congratulations. Though it's often that ideologues spout insanely stupid groupthink comments such as this, you've dug a new low for your ilk.

And here is a perfect example of what I'm saying.

Why do you feel that MJF is beyond reproach? Liberals seem to have a problem with free speech when they don't like their fanatics being questioned.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate
Quite possibly THE stupidest thing ever written on this forum, and that's really saying something given how lowbrow it usually is.

Congratulations. Though it's often that ideologues spout insanely stupid groupthink comments such as this, you've dug a new low for your ilk.

And here is a perfect example of what I'm saying.

Why do you feel that MJF is beyond reproach? Liberals seem to have a problem with free speech when they don't like their fanatics being questioned.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Aisengard
Ahh, I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

MJF went on a commercial to support a candidate who he believed could help him, and others like him. The fact that you continue to believe that people with diseases should sit down and shut up because they don't support Republicans is despicable. I'm sorry the Republican running in Missouri doesn't care about what Michael J Fox cares about. The candidate he supports does, and that's all you need to know.

I wonder how you would feel about an Iraq war veteran going on TV supporting Bush and the Iraq War. I wouldn't agree with him, but I wouldn't condemn him for standing up for what he believes in.

I guess that's the difference between people like me and people like you.

I think you can clearly make the statement that it is the Democrats who are desperate in this. Look at the two places where this has become an issue, MO and Maryland.
1. Talent leads in most MO polls. And as off Oct 16 Talent had over $4 million in the bank compared to McCaskill's $246,000. Those two things favor Talent in the last two weeks. I'd be surprised if he losses.

2. A poll last week showed Steele and Cardin TIED!!!! Maryland is a state where the Democrat usually wins the Senate race 65-34 or better! The fact that Steele is close at all is amazing. He may not win, but he should not even be polling above 40%, and yet he has in nearly half the polls. The state of Maryland is 54% Dem and 29% Rep. If Steele was to win it would be by far the biggest upset on election day. (I doubt he will win, but it is VERY close.)

So in two states where the Democrats are in danger of losing they roll out an ad that pulls at your heart strings and tells you that if you vote for Democrats there will be a cure for Parkinson?s. Total BS and desperation on behalf of the Democrats.

Next they will roll out an ad with skinny school children and start the ?Republicans want to cut school lunch programs so these kids will go hungry? attack again.

:thumbsup: Well Said.

ROFL at the pathetic attempt at a Clintonian sidestep, Assengard - and trust us, you ain't clinton. You'll never be your hero. Nice try though :laugh:

Let's try and spell this out slowly, one more time for you, because you obviously missed it the last go round:

MJF spouted untruths and gross implications in that commercial. THAT's why he needs to sit down and shut up. NOT BECAUSE OF HIS DISEASE.

Or, to use your comparison, if the Iraq war veteran supported bush, but spouted untruths, that's disgusting and pathetic. His status as a veteran has nothing to do with it.

That's the problem with you libs, you think a disease gives a person carte blanche to make gross misstatements willy nilly. It's almost as pathetic as wishing American Soldiers dead so you can advance your cause.

Are you going to address the untruths that MJF stated, or are you going to continue on your pantywaist "Shame on you for criticizing a disease" tirade? :laugh:

The best part about this whole debacle is it virtually assures a Democrat loss in Missourri

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn


Next they will roll out an ad with skinny school children and start the ?Republicans want to cut school lunch programs so these kids will go hungry? attack again.

What's wrong with that if they did plan to cut school lunches? (todays republicans would'nt dare but just hypothetical)

You dont think republicans do the same thing? That whole harold ford ad was an appeal to emotion.. in fact I bellive everything is.. Do you get pissed when you see all those deductions from your check? That's emotional reponse and an emotional appeal is made to cut taxes by republican cadidates with talks of fairness and keep what's yours. Just because you don't agree with the emotional position does'nt suddenly make it invalid or unfair to use.

Anyway MJF is prefectly legit to show parkinson in all it's misery to get his candiate in office who will pass/fund Stemcell to perhaps cure him and futrue sufferers.

You can call him on it as Unfair and underhanded and many will buy that emotional appeal too.

 

[trenchfoot]

it's at all at once amusing, frightening, repulsive, fascinating and awesome to see how mjf is being ruthlessly picked apart by a few in this thread, very much like a school of pihrana shredding and gorging on a live kapibara. methodical, systematic, cooperative and without any emotion whatsoever. very impressive.

similarly, pihrana being cannibalistic, i think i now know how mccain felt after the 2k repub primaries. well, i guess it was more like being date-raped in most respects.

mjf had a legitimate message to share. give the man at least that fer cry'in out loud.

 

[Thump553]

You can't buy better proof of what the GOP is all about than by listening to Rush and reading some of the ridiculous and totally heartless comments above. Keep it up fellows, the Democratic Party needs this of proof to help convince this rest of us rational people to turn this country around.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20061025/cm_thenation/15132053

Rush Limbaugh has proven time and again what a nasty bully he can be. Remember his feeble attempt to insult Chelsea Clinton by criticizing her appearance when she was just a child? And his racist musings on whether black men were equipped to play quarterback? (FYI, Rush, at least five African-Americans are starting quarterbacks in NFL right now.)

I guess all the people supporting that drug addled fool Rush attacking MJF must remember his comments regarding Blacks playing QB....
What your side lacks in smarts they make up for with class.... :roll:

Limbaugh ultimately offered a half-hearted apology, but it's difficult to take this seriously. With a weekly audience of 10 million, he lives to generate this type of controversy. He and Ann Coulter seem to be in a competition for who can be the most consistently repugnant and woefully ignorant.

Ain't THAT the truth.... Swine.

 

[Aisengard]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Aisengard
Actually I think he's taking it fine. Just making out those tools who suddenly make light of his disease because he stands up for what he believes in (and it doesn't coincide with the goose-stepping Republicans) all the more foolish.

Just a thought...But where has MJF been for the last several years? I certainly haven't seen him out advocating anything. The last time I can recall hearing about him was when he testified before Congress some time ago.

And if he is really concerned ... why is this ridiculous ad only running in a couple hotly contested races in a couple states? Why not nationwide?

The only "tools" are the blind liberals who imply that MJF is beyond reproach because of his disease (not surprisingly, these same 'tools' tell us 9-11 families are beyond question as well...)

This is America. Fox has every right to spew his garbage, and likewise, Rush has every right to shoot it down.

Great. And we rational people have every right to call you and your ilk out on your BS. He's helping out a candidate who really cares about what he cares about, and who needs help. He did stand in front of Congress, which I think qualifies as "nationwide". You are pathetic. According to you, either Fox has to sit down and shut up, or he needs to dedicate every second of his life to stopping Parkinson's disease, or else he's a political hack and is reproachable.

And I think other people already shot down Rush's bull about MJF. I think, daveymark and ProfJohn, if you use your reading skills, you can find those arguments posted by others on the forum. Safe to say, stem cell research could be a humongous breakthrough in medical science, but we'll never know unless we have lawmakers who want to make it happen.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Termagant

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Aisengard
All this means is if you have an illness, or are affected by an issue, according to Republican hacks like the four or so you see on this board you are NOT allowed to speak about it, or offer your support to someone, or use your illness to try and make a change for the better when it comes to electing leaders.

As usual, another self-aggrandising democrap gets it wrong.

This isn't about MJF having a tic, or about what, if any, meds he took. it's about MJF being misleading and spouting untruths. Fine, we've established the fact that MJF goess off his meds to get a more dramatic effect. That's fine and dandy, so what if he deliberately decides to forego a few pills? The issue isn't about what went it his mouth, it's about what came out.

Sadly, your kind continue to give MJF a free pass and feel it's ok for him to mislead people about stem cell research, all because he's the Parkinson's Posterboy. The free pass is disgusting, yet typical and unsurprising.

A disease does not give you the right to mislead people. So don't get your panties in a twist and prance around, stating "He's got Parkinson's, how dare yuou question what he says?" It's pathetic that you lib posters in this forum think otherwise and continue to fling your verbal fecal matter all over the forums. You can continue to think otherwise, however it's just another reason why these commercials will backfire and why the democrap party will continue to be a party in shambles.

"Untruths" "Misleading"?

MJF lied when he didn't mention that embryonic stem cells have yet to cure any ailment, while adult stem cells have cured thousands of ailments.

Also MJF mislead when he failed to note that liberals want to force women to give up their eggs for embryonic stem cell research. They want to traffic in human babies. I saw this on a Republican campaign ad that CNN aired for discussion during The Wolf Blitzer Show.

Also MJF lied when he failed to point out that the Democrat he was stumping for had voted against a stem cell bill introduced by that crusader for human dignity, Rick Santorum.

Traffic in human babies, force women to give up their embryos? Rick Santorum - crusader for human dignity?

You've got it all wrong, when the D's take over Congress, they are going to FORCE all registered Republican women to have abortions, and all Christians will be thrown in jail. The Bible will be a banned book, and all children in school will be forced to have gay sex.

Oh and I forgot one more thing, all white people will have to give all of their earnings to blacks as reparations for slavery.