I don't expect anything.
At this point all we have is hearsay, it may all be true, or it may be the ravings of a drug addled lunatic. Time will tell.
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At this point all we have is hearsay, it may all be true, or it may be the ravings of a drug addled lunatic. Time will tell.
He'll face the same questions in either venue. McConnell can't tell the Dems what questions they can ask. Schiff can't tell GOP committee members, either. Now that Bolton has indicated he'll respond to a Senate subpoena there's no legit way to deny one from the House. I can't wait to see what he says.
woolfe9998
Lifer
Then it will be awkward for him to explain why he said he would testify before the Senate, then refuse to do so before the House.
They should subpoena him. I have a feeling he'll show up. He seems to want to testify.
He may have cornered himself. Bolton turning rat would be a thing of beauty. What's he going to say? That Trump told him not to testify for the House but that the Senate would be OK?
interchange
Diamond Member
Even a warmonger like Bolton I'm sure could tell how dangerously screwed up going after Soleimani and threatening war crimes is. I don't think Bolton has any love for Trump at all. I'm not sure what he thinks of the party and the party's interest. I hope he spills it.
He was instrumental in selling the war crimes of Bush & Cheney. He's all about regime change in Iran.
soundforbjt
Lifer
He was already asked and his lawyer declined to comment
hal2kilo
Lifer
He thinks there will be enough remnants of the Republican party he knew after Trump is gone. He had to play his game that he isn't a never Trumper turncoat, so he let the court case play out. I think it's not just the court case now, but I think he hates Trump, and history would look on him kindly, if he played some role in getting rid of the dangerous stooge.
I'm sure he did. It's moot until such a subpoena is issued. Bolton's most recent statement is some mealy-mouthed bullshit-
STATEMENT OF JOHN R. BOLTON - John Bolton PAC | BoltonPAC.com
Accordingly, since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.
The House hasn't concluded their Constitutional responsibility at all. It remains ongoing. He & the rest of Trump's defenders somehow manage to overlook the simple fact that Trump is an enemy of the Constitution, something they swore to protect.
They're not upholding the Constitution, they're defying it. The whole thing is deeply immoral & utterly wrong, a repudiation of the values we hold dear.
Truth? Truth isn't truth in Trumplandia. Facts don't matter. It's whatever they can get people to believe. Not just believe, but believe in at a deep emotional level. It's all in the gut.
cytg111
Lifer
Came to post something similar... why not just reopen the case... as we all know it havent been sent yet. Get Boltons ass on the floor now!
soundforbjt
Lifer
Schiff says there's no plans for Bolton to testify in the House...? WTF? Are they trying to lose or what? Not that I believe Bolton would testify if subpoenaed.
dank69
Lifer
Yeah I don't get it. Dems need to be turning every screw they can find.
soundforbjt
Lifer
Trump said today if Bolton is subpoenaed to testify in the Senate he'll invoke executive privilege, truly the actions of an innocent man.
ivwshane
Lifer
What? No way! You haven’t heard? He’s doing it to protect the office of the presidency from congressional overreach!
/eyeroll
UNCjigga
Lifer
Seems like Parnas’ attorney has handed over the entire contents of Parnas’ iPhone 11 (including unencrypted WhatsApp messages) WITHOUT any protective order restrictions.
Dems will leak like a Dutch *** if there’s anything juicy. If we don’t hear anything then either a) there’s nothing Parnas has and this is just a ploy to waste people’s time or reduce his sentence, or b) Dems aren’t buying it.
Dems will leak like a Dutch *** if there’s anything juicy. If we don’t hear anything then either a) there’s nothing Parnas has and this is just a ploy to waste people’s time or reduce his sentence, or b) Dems aren’t buying it.
Fenixgoon
Lifer
unless they're going the trumpian route of "those witnesses must be joe and hunter biden" 🙄
now if they call administration officials like Bolton and McGahn(sp?), that will actually be meaningful.
McGahn was gone before Trump went on his Ukrainian adventure. His testimony would only be relevant wrt the Mueller investigation. Dems are still working on that in the courts.
cytg111
Lifer
Ill see this
www.msnbc.com
When I see it.
But you know, as far as vindication goes it will be a nice first step.
Also. Is Ukraine leaking?
www.msnbc.com
Sen. Mitt Romney says he’ll vote to hear Bolton testimony
Republican Senator Mitt Romney said publicly that he will vote to hear testimony from Trump's former National Security Advisor John Bolton.
www.msnbc.com
When I see it.
But you know, as far as vindication goes it will be a nice first step.
Also. Is Ukraine leaking?
NYT: Russia hacked Ukrainian company at center of impeachment case
One day before Speaker Pelosi meets with Democrats to finalize the transfer of impeachment articles, new reporting reveals Moscow’s cyberattack on the
www.msnbc.com
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Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment (Published 2020)
The timing and scale of the attacks suggest the Russians may be looking for the same kind of damaging information on Joe Biden that President Trump wanted from Ukraine, security experts say.
It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment.
(bolding mine)
... or what they were planting.
According to a security expert, the "fingerprints" on the Burisma attack were exactly the same as those on the DNC hack, and point straight to the GRU. They didn't even bother to disguise themselves. So not only were they searching for (or planting) evidence, they were giving a great big "nyah-nyah-nyaaaaahhh" to Western intelligence, knowing that Barr/Trump - or "Barrump" - will short-circuit any possible investigation. Facepalm!
But..Hey!...I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK? You don’t know who broke in to Burisma
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