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NWRMidnight

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Does Pelosi's son, or has Pelosi's son made money in Ukraine?
What about Biden's?
So you think these kids were just plucked out of the blue for those jobs? Someone always pays when they want access. I believe, in time, it will be proven that the real Quid Pro Quo was committed by the Pelosis and Bidens. This is some of what this impeachment is all about, a nipping in the bud before things get real for any of them.
Really? So basically, you are saying that the children of parents in powerful positions can't be employed by anyone because if they are, it automatically becomes corruption? Or are you spinning it that it is only corruption if it's a foreign owned company? Or maybe you are saying that our government must decide if a foreign company can hire them, and which includes deciding if they have the qualifications to get the job

If any of what you say about the kids, mounts to corruption, then why are the Trump kids so involved with multiple foreign countries?

Also, if it was about corruption with Biden, then why wasn't anything done the first 2.5 years of his presidency, and he just so happened to decide to do it shortly after Joe Biden announced he was running for President.

Basically, you are talking all the propaganda points that have been Proven wrong, specially Joe Biden's atctions in Ukrain.
 
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dank69

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Does Pelosi's son, or has Pelosi's son made money in Ukraine?
What about Biden's?
So you think these kids were just plucked out of the blue for those jobs? Someone always pays when they want access. I believe, in time, it will be proven that the real Quid Pro Quo was committed by the Pelosis and Bidens. This is some of what this impeachment is all about, a nipping in the bud before things get real for any of them.
I'm sure you are also concerned about Ivanka, Jared, etc.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Like you have any right to tell me what to do. lol

Rights? Wholly inapplicable. Even as an admin I hadn't that right without cause and you know it.

You are free to take a break, stay, or drive over a cliff. What you don't have is a right to no consequences when you post untruths.

So you make a claim that you can't back up. You and I and everyone already know that. You like Trump earn your reputation and display your character. If you are happy with that I certainly can't tell you that you must change your opinion.
 

fskimospy

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Actually, they do. They reveal some possible motive for wanting Trump gone. Swamp Queen insists on it happening.

To be clear you are saying that people are trying to remove Trump from office because he's trying to uncover the 'real corruption'?

Oh my fucking god, hahahahaha.

How can anyone be this delusional? If you should be able to understand one thing about Trump is that he could not give less of a shit about corruption. He LIKES corruption - it's an easy way for him to make money.
 
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Bullshit. Pelosi is not only trying to negate the results of the last election, but control the results of the next one. It's not gonna work. The Democrats have pretty much guaranteed his reelection. I have no doubt that when Trump is acquitted in the Senate, the house will impeach again, except, should they lose control of the House and not regain control of the Senate in 2020, Pelosi obviously will no longer be speaker and they can't do that anymore. Even in that they will probably keep introducing articles, but they won't pass in the House.

Fuck Pelosi and the rest of her fucktard cabal.

Does stupid hurt?
 

woolfe9998

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To be clear you are saying that people are trying to remove Trump from office because he's trying to uncover the 'real corruption'?

Oh my fucking god, hahahahaha.

How can anyone be this delusional? If you should be able to understand one thing about Trump is that he could not give less of a shit about corruption. He LIKES corruption - it's an easy way for him to make money.

Isn't that what the QANON cranks believe? That Trump is this superhero who's going to expose everyone else's corruption and the deep state is trying take him down before he does? LOL
 

nakedfrog

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Isn't that what the QANON cranks believe? That Trump is this superhero who's going to expose everyone else's corruption and the deep state is trying take him down before he does? LOL
That's what I was going to say, I think that's a central part of the Q stuff.
 

fskimospy

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Isn't that what the QANON cranks believe? That Trump is this superhero who's going to expose everyone else's corruption and the deep state is trying take him down before he does? LOL

You would think that literally years if nobody getting arrested would make these nuts start to question that whole thing. Apparently not.
 

UNCjigga

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Does Pelosi's son, or has Pelosi's son made money in Ukraine?
What about Biden's?
So you think these kids were just plucked out of the blue for those jobs? Someone always pays when they want access. I believe, in time, it will be proven that the real Quid Pro Quo was committed by the Pelosis and Bidens. This is some of what this impeachment is all about, a nipping in the bud before things get real for any of them.

I googled the first question and Snopes says false. But I take it that offends your belief system, so I won’t rub it in, snowflake!

 

UNCjigga

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Does Pelosi's son, or has Pelosi's son made money in Ukraine?
What about Biden's?
So you think these kids were just plucked out of the blue for those jobs? Someone always pays when they want access. I believe, in time, it will be proven that the real Quid Pro Quo was committed by the Pelosis and Bidens. This is some of what this impeachment is all about, a nipping in the bud before things get real for any of them.

I googled the first question and Snopes says false. But I take it that offends your belief system, so I won’t rub it in, snowflake!

 

Hayabusa Rider

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You would think that literally years if nobody getting arrested would make these nuts start to question that whole thing. Apparently not.

There is a post-truth element that exists. It is entirely without substance based on real events and that would be the point.
 

Paratus

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Sorry, while that may be, your posts and others here reek of desperation, of people who know they are losing the battle. The democrats have been plotting to remove this president since day one. The media have been working in collusion with them, becoming an arm of the Democratic party, and activists toward that end. People like you have bought right in. The result is irreparable damage and division. Pelosi has said they have been working on this for 2 1/2 years, so this never was about Ukraine, but about hate for this president and their quest to destroy the presidency. This has been a highly organized coup attempt. I hope everyone involved gets their just desserts.

How did you conservative voters fail so so badly? You could have easily picked a candidate back in 2016 that would have provided what you wanted yet worked within the law (mostly).

Failing that you could have provided cover for all the illegal shit going on now like you guys did in 2016 by delivering the House and Senate. But you failed horribly in 2018.

If you conservative voters were more reliable (and numerous) then the GOP wouldn’t have to try and disenfranchise liberals in Wisconsin and Georgia.

I mean it’s no wonder your politicians treat you guys with such contempt. To lazy to pick competent candidates, to lazy to provide enough votes to sweep the crimes under the rug.
 
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mect

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There is a post-truth element that exists. It is entirely without substance based on real events and that would be the point.
But anyone that rejects the post truth world is living in an echo chamber. If two people see the same facts and agree to what those facts are, they are just surrounding themselves with like minded individuals.
 

zinfamous

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Do some of you guys still believe in the Russia collusion conspiracy?

There is an old saying - always accuse the other side of that which you are doing yourself. It is practically in the DNA of being a democrat. Conspire to bring the other side down. Accuse the other side of doing what you ARE doing. When caught, divert attention away from it. When nailed, continue to lie about it. Here is the truth about Ukraine... If people really knew the ways Pelosi, Bidens and perhaps Obama's were making money out of Ukraine, it would make Trump's phone call about as serious as a kid eating an ice cream bar in the living room, instead of at the kitchen table. There may be a crime, but not from Trump, at least not on Ukraine. Let's look at those other folks.

Are you a real person, or is this just......................................................................................
 

zinfamous

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Does Pelosi's son, or has Pelosi's son made money in Ukraine?
What about Biden's?
So you think these kids were just plucked out of the blue for those jobs? Someone always pays when they want access. I believe, in time, it will be proven that the real Quid Pro Quo was committed by the Pelosis and Bidens. This is some of what this impeachment is all about, a nipping in the bud before things get real for any of them.

see, now you aren't even talking about the same thing you were trying to talk about before.

Maybe if you ever engage in the actual timeline of events--the one that real investigators use to put facts together--you'll realize that you have been had. ...lol, you'll never realize that, because you don't care.
 

zinfamous

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I'm sure you are also concerned about Ivanka, Jared, etc.

yeah but those are people that are totally qualified to do their jobs, and a guy like Jared is "randomly plucked" by the despots in SA and Turkey to run "peace missions" that end up selling shitloads of war machines and magically erasing the Kushner family $2billion debts within a month. ...because that just happens because not corruption.

in compuwiz's mind, because he;s a fucking brainshit moron.

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Bitek

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Sorry, while that may be, your posts and others here reek of desperation, of people who know they are losing the battle. The democrats have been plotting to remove this president since day one. The media have been working in collusion with them, becoming an arm of the Democratic party, and activists toward that end. People like you have bought right in. The result is irreparable damage and division. Pelosi has said they have been working on this for 2 1/2 years, so this never was about Ukraine, but about hate for this president and their quest to destroy the presidency. This has been a highly organized coup attempt. I hope everyone involved gets their just desserts.

1. Jesus Christ, stop calling it a coup when the result of impeachment and removal is Republican President Mike Pence, elected in 2016.

2. Stop whining about "the media" when you have fox news, Sinclair media, hundreds of conservative radio hosts and all the other media channels constantly pushing for Trump. Hell, Hannity even gets on stage at the rallies.

Just once, I'd like to see a conservative actually made the case why it's ok to solicit foreign govts to help you win elections. Instead it's screaming and whining.

You think crying hardest= winning? We'll see.
 
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ivwshane

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1. Jesus Christ, stop calling it a coup when the result of impeachment and removal is Republican President Mike Pence, elected in 2016.

2. Stop whining about "the media" when you have fox news, Sinclair media, hundreds of conservative radio hosts and ask the other media channels constantly pushing for Trump. Hell, Hannity even gets on stage at the rallies.

Just once, I'd like to see a conservative actually made the case why it's ok to solicit foreign govts to help you win elections. Instead it's screaming and whining.

You think crying hardest= winning? Well see.

It’s funny how no republican or righty can ever address that simple question of soliciting foreign governments for personal help in a US election.
 
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PJFrylar

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1. Jesus Christ, stop calling it a coup when the result of impeachment and removal is Republican President Mike Pence, elected in 2016.

2. Stop whining about "the media" when you have fox news, Sinclair media, hundreds of conservative radio hosts and ask the other media channels constantly pushing for Trump. Hell, Hannity even gets on stage at the rallies.

Just once, I'd like to see a conservative actually made the case why it's ok to solicit foreign govts to help you win elections. Instead it's screaming and whining.

You think crying hardest= winning? Well see.

Being that they love them some Trump, yes they really love to play the victim card. The harder you slam that card down while calling others a snowflake, the better. No politician has ever been treated more unfairly than Trump. Boohoo our precious feefees.
 
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VRAMdemon

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It's funny watching Trumpists crowing about how this impeachment is good for Trump and his reelection. Just under 50% of all voters want Trump booted out of office now. When you add in another x % who don't favor impeachment, but can't stand Trump and are willing to wait until November to vote him out...it's hard to spin that into a Republican tidal wave. But kudos for them giving it the ol' college try.
 

UNCjigga

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While we await the Senate trial, it’s great that public interest groups filling FOIA requests are getting new evidence supporting the impeachment.

Any doubts about whether the July 25 call with Zelensky was linked to freezing the Ukraine aid can now be put to rest.



A July 25 email to the Pentagon from the same official shows how sensitive the issue was and how eager the Trump administration was to hide it from others. The email includes a written instruction that the Pentagon “please hold off on” distribution of the funds and says that “given the sensitive nature of the request” the information should be “closely held.” It went out 91 minutes after the end of the now-infamous call between Trump and Ukraine’s prime minister, Vlodymyr Zelensky, timing that may have been coincidental given that the aid was held up by Trump earlier that month.

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