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zinfamous

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Just curious why no one is interested in the fact Bidens son was making 50k a month from an energy company? Also I can't remember the title of his job but it sounded very suspicious to say the least? I can't blame Trump for wanting to know more.

because it's completely irrelevant to this situation. Biden(s) is a smoke screen. All of the supposed corruption with Burisma occurred before the Bidens were involved. Before Trump was president. The GOP has been LYING to you about this very clear, very well-established timeline of actual events.

They are doing this because they need to create a false narrative that Trump cares about corruption, and it involves the Biden(s). This story is completely impossible when you consider the actual facts that are not in dispute. The only evidence we have, here, is that Trump and his admin and his button guy Rudy were trying to pile on the corruption in Ukraine, not reduce it.
 
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outriding

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Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.


Well since Ukraine already investigated Biden and found no wrong doing..

What do you want... Benghazi part 2..

 

zinfamous

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And importantly, to announce an investigation, not to actually investigate. The ask was for an announcement, which means it exists entirely to smear Biden. Has nothing to do with actually investigating anything.

everyone always forgets this. Trump never wanted an investigation.

He wanted a reality TV soundbite that generated yet another false event in people's minds. Far worse, actually, than demanding an actual pointless investigation (like the GOP and Ben Gazi)
 
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dank69

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Just curious why no one is interested in the fact Bidens son was making 50k a month from an energy company? Also I can't remember the title of his job but it sounded very suspicious to say the least? I can't blame Trump for wanting to know more.

Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
Worthless.
 

outriding

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Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.

let me know when you post a topic about his since you are so concerned about income from a politicians kids..

 

NWRMidnight

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Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
If Hunter Biden is guilty of any wrong doing, then go thru the proper investigative branches as required. Also, why did Trump wait until right after Biden announced his Bid to run as President to start any investigation? Why didn't he start it in 2017, 2018, or anytime before Biden's announcement if it has nothing to do with the election and his political gain? I would suggest you stop drinking the grape Kool Aid given out by Fox and Friends.

There are millions of people in the US that are under qualified and over paid for the positions they hold in the companies they work for.. Yet it must be corruption if they are a democrat related to a politician and if it is with a foreign company. Of course, you also need to ignore that every year, foreign ownership of corporation and businesses in the USA increases substantially. As of 2017, nearly 7 Million jobs in the USA where thru foreign owned companies, and the number has only increased since then.
 
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I for one am very interested to hear why you think a politician’s son getting a cushy job for $600k a year is corrupt as hell and needs to be investigated but think a politician himself using $400 MILLION in taxpayer funds to extort a foreign leader into helping his campaign is just something that people in power do and is fine.

Take all the time you need, haha. I suspect you will never answer this.
One is a power play. No worse than a president cramming a scam of a healthcare bill down our throats.
The other is bribery and corruption. No different than when Haliburton got a bunch of no bid contracts. I believe Chaney had some ties to Haliburton at the time.
 

ivwshane

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One is a power play. No worse than a president cramming a scam of a healthcare bill down our throats.
The other is bribery and corruption. No different than when Haliburton got a bunch of no bid contracts. I believe Chaney had some ties to Haliburton at the time.

So trying to corrupt our democracy is the same as no bid government contracts? It’s power play? Lol no, it’s a violation of the constitution and campaign laws.
 
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fskimospy

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One is a power play. No worse than a president cramming a scam of a healthcare bill down our throats.
The other is bribery and corruption. No different than when Haliburton got a bunch of no bid contracts. I believe Chaney had some ties to Haliburton at the time.

Just to be clear by your example the one where someone offered $400 million in exchange for personal favors is the one that's NOT a bribe?

lol, holy shit. Can you please confirm you're not a parody account or something?
 
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interchange

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Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.

What crime do you suspect Joe or Hunter may have committed? Be specific, e.g. citing statute.

As for "that's what people in power do", provide an example of any other US politician pressuring a foreign government to take action to specifically harm a political opponent.
 

fskimospy

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What crime do you suspect Joe or Hunter may have committed? Be specific, e.g. citing statute.

As for "that's what people in power do", provide an example of any other US politician pressuring a foreign government to take action to specifically harm a political opponent.

This is one of the most insidious things about Trump, he has convinced his supporters that all politicians are just as corrupt as he is so whenever they see Trump committing crimes like this they assume that must be normal.

It's not, Trump is a criminal the likes of which we have never seen in the presidency before. Not even Nixon comes close to the level of corruption under Trump.
 
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hal2kilo

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This is one of the most insidious things about Trump, he has convinced his supporters that all politicians are just as corrupt as he is so whenever they see Trump committing crimes like this they assume that must be normal.

It's not, Trump is a criminal the likes of which we have never seen in the presidency before. Not even Nixon comes close to the level of corruption under Trump.
Bothsides forever, hail Trump.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Not sure where else to throw this, so may as well throw it on the pile.


Hyde, R donor and challenger for a CN congressional seat, was working with Parnas very probably to harm or kill Yovanavich.

Robert F. Hyde: Fuck that bitch
Parnas: [links multiple articles]
Robert F. Hyde: Wow. Can’t believe Trumo [sic] hasn’t fired this bitch. I’ll get right in that.
Robert F. Hyde: [Links multiple articles/pictures]
Robert F. Hyde: She under heavy protection outside Kiev
Parnas: I know crazy shit
Robert F. Hyde: My guy thinks maybe FSB..?
Parnas: [Links articles]
Robert F. Hyde: [Links picture]
Parnas: Interesting
Robert F. Hyde: What should I do with this?
Robert F. Hyde: They are moving her tomorrow
Robert F. Hyde: The guys over they asked what I would like to do and what is in it for them
Robert F. Hyde: Wake up Yankees man
Robert F. Hyde: She's talked to three people. Her phone is off. Computer is off.
Robert F. Hyde: She's next to the embassy
Robert F. Hyde: Not in the embassy
Robert F. Hyde: Private security. Been there since Thursday.
Parnas: Interesting
Robert F. Hyde: They know she's a political puppet
Robert F. Hyde: They will let me know when she's on the move
Robert F. Hyde: And they will let me know when she's on the move
Parnas: Perfect
Robert F. Hyde: I mean where if they can find out.
Robert F. Hyde: That adress I sent you checks out
Robert F. Hyde: It's next to the embassy
Robert F. Hyde: They are willing to help if we/you would like a price
Robert F. Hyde: Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money... what I was told
Parnas: Lol
Robert F. Hyde: Update she will not be moved special security unit upgraded force on the compound people are already aware of the situation my contacts are asking what is the next step because cannot keep going to check people will start to ask questions
Robert F. Hyde: If you want her out they need to make contact with security forces
Robert F. Hyde: From Ukranians
Robert F. Hyde: What's the word bro
Robert F. Hyde: Any good stuff?
Parnas: Call you soon in studio
Robert F. Hyde: Let's go Holmes
Robert F. Hyde: RG was good. But Ingraham had some hard questions
Robert F. Hyde: Nothing has changed she is still not moving they check today again
Robert F. Hyde: Hi buddy
Robert F. Hyde: It's confirmed we have a person inside
Parnas: [Links youtube video]: "Trumps takedown of FBI (Winning montage!)"
Robert F. Hyde: Nice
Robert F. Hyde: Hey brother do we stand down??? Or you still need intel be safe
Robert F. Hyde: She had visitors
Robert F. Hyde: It's confirmed we have a person inside
Robert F. Hyde: Hey broski tell me what we are doing what's the next step
 
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hal2kilo

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Not sure where else to throw this, so may as well throw it on the pile.


Hyde, R donor and challenger for a CN congressional seat, was working with Parnas very probably to harm or kill Yovanavich.
This gets really weird.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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This gets really weird.
Here's a fun one too:
The report notes that Hyde had a disturbing episode at a Trump resort for which he had to be taken into custody by police and brought to a medical facility under a state law that allows for involuntary confinement of people who might pose a risk to themselves.
It's referring to the Baker Act.
 
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so....now we've got high probability of Trump ordering the assassination of a United States diplomat?

I guess this is what the GOP wants.

(Me playing MAGA guy)
Hey it happens all the time remember Vin Foster bitch


Edited to make it more MAGA
 
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sportage

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Well, the articles of impeachment have gone to the senate.
That same senate where Mitch McConnell is in control of.
The same senate where Mitch McConnell has openly stated he will take his marching orders directly from the Whitehouse.
And I agree with Anton on this.

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cytg111

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This shit is bonkers. Not only does it demolish Trump’s claim that he was pursuing corruption on behalf of the United States as Giuliani is very clear he’s there as Trump’s personal attorney, but we have a plot where at a MINIMUM Americans connected to the president are conducting surveillance against US officials on his behalf. If you read the texts less charitably they are looking to harm her in some way.

This is straight out mobster shit.
This is straight out stupid mobster shit. hence "stupid Capone"
 
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cytg111

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Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
You should read what is posted to you.
But lets go bowling green massacre for a second and imagine that Hunter was employed in a quid pro quo scenario. How many billion cases like this do you think exists?
So Trump cherry picks the one that is his most likely opponents son?
Do you understand why he cannot do that?
Do you understand why he must get the IC to do proper investigations not his retarded personal lawyer?
Do you understand the Burisma narrative is of GRU origin?
Are you a Russian? Or maybe you would rather be one? Cause you sure are walking and talking the Kremlins business here comrade.
 

hal2kilo

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Here's a fun one too:

It's referring to the Baker Act.
The beat goes on. Pubs are disowning the guy.

 

ivwshane

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Not sure where else to throw this, so may as well throw it on the pile.


Hyde, R donor and challenger for a CN congressional seat, was working with Parnas very probably to harm or kill Yovanavich.

Wow! That does not sound good at all!
 

VRAMdemon

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I'm going to say Trump probably didn't order her murdered. He isn't reckless enough to court that kind of blowback, not consciously anyway. Trump could have fired her on a whim. Why have her "whacked"?

However.... he does have the nerve to indiscriminately hire the worst sorts of goons and direct them with vague messaging like "whatever it takes", not really caring what it takes, yet feeling insulated because he didn't spell it out.
 

zinfamous

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