Info PSA- Public impeachments start today- UPDATE 2/5/2020- Trump wins.

[Jhhnn]

yup. 4 decades of Gaslighting. Roger Ailes created you.

The Big Lie eats their brains. The more impudent the lie, the better it works. When Trump says "I did nothing wrong! Read the Transcript!" they've already been so gaslighted that when they read the transcript they agree with him, if they actually bother to read it at all. Why would they? Trump already said that he's innocent & that's all they need to know.

 

[mect]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind and what you post won't change mine. What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc. It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful. I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

I'm surprised you will admit that no one on here will change your mind. People on here can certainly change my mind (and have in the past) when they make rational, fact based arguments. The problem is you won't actually accept facts, because you've destroyed them. Trump's own Chief of Staff admitted to the quid pro quo. Trump himself admitted to using foreign aid to leverage personal political gains. The Mueller report found several instances of obstruction of justice. There are several documented cases of violations of the emoluments clause. The list goes on and on. Anyone being the least bit objective can at least agree to these facts.

 

[interchange]

My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc.

Please tell me if you see any problem with this proclamation when you have rebutted my analysis with these words:

Find me any majority of Independents, Moderates, or staunch Republicans, who support impeachment of this president. There are not enough to make this more than Partisan on the Democrat's part. This forum is overwhelmingly left, so there is no surprise that the majority of the folks here support it. That's not the country and that is one reason why this idea will fail miserably.

 

[TheVrolok]

What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings

That's spit take quality right there.

 

[ivwshane]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind and what you post won't change mine. What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc. It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful. I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

That’s where you are wrong. If you were to post facts that counter current understanding or knowledge, I would welcome it. However, as you qualified your statement, you don’t post facts, you post opinions and innuendo, just like you did with your original post. And that’s precisely what I mean by bubble and your circular logic, you’ve insulated yourself from anything that might counter your beliefs.

 

[Vic]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind and what you post won't change mine. What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc. It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful. I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

The failure in your logic is your assumption that you're not biased, and likewise, that your media isn't biased, doesn't also have a strong political lean, and isn't also working very hard to influence public thinking.
You also don't seem to notice that one of the ways that 'conservative' media influences public thinking is by convincing its viewers that they are somehow non-mainstream, somehow gifted by them with some special ability of thought that raises them above the like-minded hive, just by believing whatever they tell without question. It's a classic con.
And it's why 'conservative' media followers are able to, for example, claim that it is stone cold logic and rational thought, and of course not emotion or collective thought, that leads them to believe they know more about science than the scientists, even if their last experience with science was in high school. Or that they know more about politics, history, and economics than all the scholars who have devoted their entire lives to those subjects, just because they listen to Rush or watch Hannity or some Youtube channel.

But yeah, you're right.. it's liberals who are the like-minded hive, O Great and Wise Lone Voice.

 

[Vic]

And on that note, you have to admire a President with the gall to claim that Congress is abusing its powers as it prepares to impeach him, in perfectly Constitutional fashion, for abuse of power. Well, I mean, you have to admire it if your main concern is about winning, which is about emotion, and not about logic and the rule of law.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind and what you post won't change mine. What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc. It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful. I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

ROFLMFAO. Funniest thing I've read in weeks.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm not buying any of it. This does not have bipartisan support, which should be the first clue that this is all a political move, simply because the Democrats don't like the president. This is not a winning strategy for the Democrats, as is soon to be proven. It's a cop out move by people who know they cannot win the presidential election. Very desperate act, IMO.

What you're telling us is that the GOP excuses Trump's lawlessness because he's their guy, the leader of their Party, the President & therefore above the law. Whatever he wants to do it's fine by them.

But Dems are the real partisans. They were always out to get Trump. So biased. So unfair. It's persecution. What they're saying about that honest & sincere man couldn't possibly be true so you can just refuse to believe it. Trump. He's just that wonderful.

 

[nOOky]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind and what you post won't change mine. What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc. It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful. I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

Sorry, it's not often I spit my beer out over my keyboard, that was close! Good thing it's my first beer, and not one later on, I'd have a mess.

 

[Paratus]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind

this is likely true since the overwhelming evidence is that the president is guilty of multiple impeachable offenses

and what you post won't change mine.

Absolutely true. It takes a certain kind of man to listen to facts he doesn’t want to hear and change his position.

What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion.

Hence why you remain in your bubble. You refuse to accept facts as such

My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc.

And yet you presented two conservative opinion pieces here as if they were facts. Which demonstrates that you do not require “tangible evidence” just opinion that fits your preconceived notions.

This is generally true of anyone who has to state they require facts but are ever unable to provide any

It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful.

A fine example of accuse others of your own crimes.

I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

When evidence leads to a conclusion then those who follow evidence will reach the same conclusion.

 

[DarthKyrie]

There's also the possibility that the GOP have no interest in upholding the constitution, only their grip on power.

You are assuming lack of support from the GOP while acting in good faith, which may not be the case.

Notice how their arguments are not against the facts but against the process...that should be the first clue...

I'm surprised you will admit that no one on here will change your mind. People on here can certainly change my mind (and have in the past) when they make rational, fact based arguments. The problem is you won't actually accept facts, because you've destroyed them. Trump's own Chief of Staff admitted to the quid pro quo. Trump himself admitted to using foreign aid to leverage personal political gains. The Mueller report found several instances of obstruction of justice. There are several documented cases of violations of the emoluments clause. The list goes on and on. Anyone being the least bit objective can at least agree to these facts.

Well, you see we need to hear from Hunter Biden because he made Trump make the call to the Ukrainian President at gunpoint while the Secret Service sat by and did nothing. Then we need to hear from Alexandra Chupla about why Taco Bell did away with Trump's favorite chalupa. The whistleblower is the key witness to all of this he was sitting up on the grassy knoll when the UFO crashed in Roswell. Joe Biden should be retroactively impeached.

 

[Xcobra]

LOL Guys, I think we need to give up on compuwiz. It's like trying to teach the ABCs to a one-year-old 😂

 

[zinfamous]

You're right. Also, nothing I post here is going to change your mind and what you post won't change mine. What you may see as fact, I may see as innuendo or opinion. My brain requires solid tangible evidence, not feelings, instinct, painted narratives by political pundits, the media, biased liberal professors sharing their own interpretations, etc. It is clearly obvious that the alphabet media has a strong political lean and works very hard to influence public thinking. You are exactly who they are looking to reach and they have been successful. I'm but a lone voice in a forum of like thinkers, or close to alone.

No, you're just painting over actual witness testimony, actual testimony from the guilty party themselves, and real facts as "speculation."

You've created a standard that doesn't exist. This makes you feel better. You know the orange putz is a guilty traitorous bastard fuck, and it hurts you. it fucking hurts you because you know you are wrong.

you would have sent black man off to a tree for 1/20th of what you think Trump is "alleged" to have done. And you fucking know it.

like I said earlier: Roger Ailes created you. This version of your brain can only exist because it has been pumped with horseshit for decades, and you can't think outside of that trapped box. You are the result of that business model. Nothing more.

 

[brycejones]

LOL Guys, I think we need to give up on compuwiz. It's like trying to teach the ABCs to a one-year-old 😂

More like an old man in deep mental decline. He has been trending this way for years.

 

[soundforbjt]

So Nunes was just on Fox & Fiends claiming he's had just two calls with Rudy and may have gotten one call from Parnas's girlfriend (he can't be sure) and he said none of the phone records match up with what the Dems are saying. He's also taking it to court so the records can get tied up for however long he can. Definitely the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.

 

[DarthKyrie]

Well, you see we need to hear from Hunter Biden because he made Trump make the call to the Ukrainian President at gunpoint while the Secret Service sat by and did nothing. Then we need to hear from Alexandra Chupla about why Taco Bell did away with Trump's favorite chalupa. The whistleblower is the key witness to all of this he was sitting up on the grassy knoll when the UFO crashed in Roswell. Joe Biden should be retroactively impeached.

I swear I am a dumbass. I forgot the biggest culprit. Hillary Clinton needs to testify in regards to her moving her homemade server, I heard that is in a 1995 full tower case, to Ukraine in order to set up our God-Emporer using Crowdstrike and bleachbit in the basement of a pizza shop.

 

[zinfamous]

So Nunes was just on Fox & Fiends claiming he's had just two calls with Rudy and may have gotten one call from Parnas's girlfriend (he can't be sure) and he said none of the phone records match up with what the Dems are saying. He's also taking it to court so the records can get tied up for however long he can. Definitely the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.

yes, because the girlfriend of some Russian asset that he shouldn't know, would be calling him. This makes perfect sense.

Holly fucking shit, these rats have absolutely no respect for this country and their brainless acolytes.

 

[Jhhnn]

So Nunes was just on Fox & Fiends claiming he's had just two calls with Rudy and may have gotten one call from Parnas's girlfriend (he can't be sure) and he said none of the phone records match up with what the Dems are saying. He's also taking it to court so the records can get tied up for however long he can. Definitely the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.

Of course he's lying. It would be easy for him to establish the truth about his trip to Europe. He has witnesses in his aides, credit card statements & corroboration from the people he met with. Kevin McCarthy claimed Nunes wasn't even in Vienna. It should be easy to show where else he was. "But muh privacy!" doesn't count for much when the taxpayers are covering the bills.

I'm pretty sure that the Wicked Pelosi & her host of demons will deal with him after the holidays. Have yourself a very merry Christmas, Devin.

 

[dank69]

So Nunes was just on Fox & Fiends claiming he's had just two calls with Rudy and may have gotten one call from Parnas's girlfriend (he can't be sure) and he said none of the phone records match up with what the Dems are saying. He's also taking it to court so the records can get tied up for however long he can. Definitely the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide.

You hear that Parnas? Your girlfriend was pursuing Nunes. How does that make you feel?

 

[fskimospy]

yes, because the girlfriend of some Russian asset that he shouldn't know, would be calling him. This makes perfect sense.

Holly fucking shit, these rats have absolutely no respect for this country and their brainless acolytes.

What did Nunes talk to Parnas' girlfriend about for nearly ten minutes?

 

[DarthKyrie]

What did Nunes talk to Parnas' girlfriend about for nearly ten minutes?

A quick phone sex session?

 

[soulcougher73]

LOL Guys, I think we need to give up on compuwiz. It's like trying to teach the ABCs to a one-year-old 😂

My money's on the one-year-old getting it first.

 

[jmagg]

Another productive discussion lol.

 

[Xcobra]

Lol at Castor