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ElFenix

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Did you just use Wikipedia in an attempt to source your way out of an argument?

IRS targeting happened.

October 26, 2017 - The Justice Department announces that it has settled multiple lawsuits over the IRS targeting Scandal. In a statement, Attorney General Jeff Sessions says it was "clear" that the IRS was "using inappropriate criteria to screen applications" for tax-exempt status under the Obama administration from tea party or conservative groups.

Sessions said that, not me.
sessions figures out way to confirm conservative conspiracy theories and hand money to trump supporters. film at 11.
 

NWRMidnight

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So what happens if all of the irrelevant witnesses the GOP wishes to call in the Senate defy their summons? Joe Biden has said he'd refuse unless he was ordered to. I'm guessing the R's would actually have the sack to do something about it, by having those witnesses arrested and jailed.
I don't believe it would be a legal summons as the Biden's have NOTHING to do with Trumps willingness and choice to commit impeachable acts, regardless if or if not The Biden's committed any crimes themselves.

If there are legitimate reason's for Biden to be investigated, itis to go thru the DOJ and be investigated.
 

Starbuck1975

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There's a thing they call sleep, it's when you do nothing and it's very not productive with regards to work. You sit there and do nothing and in some cases you maybe move, you turn, you twist. You do the moves but you're not really moving, so I hate that. Don't we, folks? So I don't sleep.

There are other things, obviously. When you sleep is when he comes, of course, when your Father comes and he's melting and he looks at you and silently screams, we all know about that, he extends his hand and it touches you and you know he's very angry, incredibly angry. And you make a perfect phone call and you tell him that, of course, but it's not perfect and it's never enough for him. There are others, too, you see the woman with the hair, the red child, all of them. They show up when you're sleeping and it's incredibly bad, really terrible stuff, you wake up screaming in some cases and your wife, OR PROSTITUTE, but they turn to you and ask "SIR, What happened there?" and you realize you've let.... there's a little something extra in the bed, okay?

But you do this when you sleep so I'm not sleeping and it's doing a lot. Ordinary people sleep maybe 7, 11 hours a day. That's how they named the place. But I? Or me? Sleeping is not.... not a huge fan, because of the things. So I sleep 3 hours or less, enough that they can't find me. And it's doing incredible things with my mind, or brain as some say it. I'm much more productive and I'm able to sign many bills while others are sleeping. While the red child is tearing up the wallpaper I'm signing the bills in some cases.
At the end, do you fix the cable?
 

Starbuck1975

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In this case, it seems to me this statement indicates you believe that, based purely on the merits of obstruction of the impeachment inquiry, Trump is guilty and should be removed from office.
I support the impeachment of Trump. I also recognize that he is the first President to so brazenly test the limits of executive power.

I support the idea that we should impeach him based on constitutional and legal grounds, not because we personally dislike him.

There is adequate evidence to support impeachment. Let him face the Senate.
 

Starbuck1975

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I just want to hear more Democrat-haters point this out. I cannot fathom how you can detest Democrats so much, but still just flippantly disregard egregious violations of governmental processes. Even if I hated Democrats, I'd still support them in this procedure because it needs to be done. Likewise, I'd happily support Republican congressmen if Democrats were supporting clearly illegal behavior.

So what's the deal? Why is this all Democrat's fault, all the damn time?
If I truly hated Democrats, don’t you think I would want to surround myself with like minded people? I enjoy political debate. I don’t expect people to agree with me. I certainly don’t hate anyone here.
 
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esquared

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So, with the phone records of Nunes talking to parnas

Even Nunes said he may have talked to him. He doesn't recall.

Now we have a guy from faux news saying some else may have called Parnas with nunes' phone.
Fox News Analyst: ‘Somebody Else’ May Have Used Nunes’ Phone to Call Parnas and Giuliani

Damn these trumphumpers are really in another reality here.
That's something that cheeto may try to use.
"Someone else was using his phone to talk to Sondland."



"
 

IronWing

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So, with the phone records of Nunes talking to parnas

Even Nunes said he may have talked to him. He doesn't recall.

Now we have a guy from faux news saying some else may have called Parnas with nunes' phone.
Fox News Analyst: ‘Somebody Else’ May Have Used Nunes’ Phone to Call Parnas and Giuliani

Damn these trumphumpers are really in another reality here.
That's something that cheeto may try to use.
"Someone else was using his phone to talk to Sondland."




"
That damn John Barron!


Edit: Oh crap! I said, "Barron".
 

trenchfoot

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In a very Republican kind of way, it makes perfect sense for Devin to be leading the Repub contingent of the committee seeing as if he's got a whole lot of personal complicity to contend with in this Ukraine scandal.

What better way for him to protect himself by having the ability to directly influence the narrative of the investigation from where he now sits on the panel.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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If I truly hated Democrats, don’t you think I would want to surround myself with like minded people? I enjoy political debate. I don’t expect people to agree with me. I certainly don’t hate anyone here.
I think you prefer to feel smug and superior by posting counterarguments after counterargument that have no basis on reality, then claiming yourself the victor (whether in your mind or via post), like a pigeon playing chess.
 

interchange

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I support the impeachment of Trump. I also recognize that he is the first President to so brazenly test the limits of executive power.

I support the idea that we should impeach him based on constitutional and legal grounds, not because we personally dislike him.

There is adequate evidence to support impeachment. Let him face the Senate.

I'm having a hard time reconciling brazenly testing the limits with your agreement that he has no valid legal defense. That seems to me brazenly violating instead of testing. Do you disagree?

To that end, you did not answer about supporting his removal from office based on obstruction of this inquiry.
 

sportage

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Well.... the president LOOKS WORRIED. That's all that matters.
And Trump should look worried.
Reasons?
World leaders are laughing at him.
Trump is claiming Rudy Giuliani would never seek dirt on Joe Biden in foreign countries WHILE Rudy Giuliani is currently over in foreign countries seeking dirt on Joe Biden.
People are picking on his kid Barron.
Melania is getting pissed off at life in the public spotlight.
Eric missed his period.
Don Jr got his thingy stuck in his zipper.
Their dog ran away.
Mitch McConnell won't return Donald's phone calls.
And who really knows.....
It just might be that when republicans in the senate are given that chance to impeach Donald Trump out of office, republicans just might fool everyone and actually do it. o_O

Donald Trump is standing over a trap door and the button to open that trap door is right there in full view. All someone need do is walk over and press that button and good-bye-bye Donald Trump.
Republicans pretend to LOVE Donald Trump yet in the senate, with that pending impeachment vote coming, loyal republicans just might walk over and press that button.
Whoosh, and Donald Trump would be gone. Down the old trap door.
Republicans would need never be afraid any more.
Republicans could dance on Donald Trump's grave and so what? What could Donald Trump do about it now?
HE'S BEEN IMPEACHED AND REMOVED.
HE'S GONE. FOREVER.
All it takes is for one senate republican to do what all senate republicans really want to do.
PRESS THAT BUTTON. :mask:
 

Starbuck1975

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I'm having a hard time reconciling brazenly testing the limits with your agreement that he has no valid legal defense. That seems to me brazenly violating instead of testing. Do you disagree?
Brazen in terms of his complete disregard for Congressional authority. He is the first President to challenge Congressional oversight. He is the only President facing impeachment to treat it as a bluff. We are in uncharted waters.

To that end, you did not answer about supporting his removal from office based on obstruction of this inquiry.
It supports articles of impeachment. Since Congress narrowly focusing impeachment to the Ukraine affair, the President does get a chance to explain his actions to the Senate. That is why we see Trump already pivoting the narrative while simultaneously shifting to offense.
 

Starbuck1975

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I think you prefer to feel smug and superior by posting counterarguments after counterargument that have no basis on reality, then claiming yourself the victor (whether in your mind or via post), like a pigeon playing chess.
Knight takes drama queen. I see the pawns assembled to like your post.
 
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Karlan apologized anyway.
For what? An apt, and accurate statement that in no way slandered anyone other than cheeto mussolini
I agree 100% that minor children of presidents are 100% off limits. This was not a slight to Barron in any possible definition of the word. Talk about snowflakes, ffs...