Availability of Renoir based products is still sketchy (for Germany Geizhals lists 395 laptop models, but only 208 of them are actually readily in stock). AMD likely wasn't able/willing to use more wafers for Renoir in the short term, so if those are done already moving on with Cezanne and Lucienne instead (for which I sure hope AMD was able to allocate more wafers to begin with) makes perfect sense.
For Germany going by Geizhals that's not the case, there are 206 laptop models with Picasso (Renoir really is vastly more popular with OEMs) and 70 with Dali, though only 98 respectively 22 are in stock.Looks like AMD is mostly getting their sales from Picasso, not from Renoir.
Honestly, I think N7 is so mature from a binning and yield standpoint that I'm not sure how they do a potential 5600 or 5700X and maintain similar margins. I imagine they'll evaluate the market, and once 5600X/5800X stop going out of stock immediately after getting listed, they'll consider whether cheaper versions with lower base/boost would help them sell to those who felt left-out by the higher pricing.I have a feeling that just a 5800 will be released to slot in what would otherwise be 5700 and X space. (basically: why do another tier of 8 cores?)
the way the 6 core performs right now, in certain test cases better than it's 8 and 12 core big brothers, there just doesn't seem to be room for 3-4 8 core SKUs, in reasonable performance gap and price point measures. Maybe a limited edition with a silver stamp to denote crummy dies that they want to package as the "value" AMD 8 core Zen 3, end of year?
Or, actually! those might just be OEM-only chips. You'll see them on HP: "Bleeding Edge, Zen3 5700 XS edition! Exclusive!" It will exist, on stickers for machines in Best Buy, but you can't get one off the shelf? (of call it 5800S, limit to OEM, when it is the spiritual heir to the x700 tier, RIP)
My own take is they won't release the non x parts until demand is such that the higher priced parts can stay in stock for a week or two. Why not get the cream while you can?Honestly, I think N7 is so mature from a binning and yield standpoint that I'm not sure how they do a potential 5600 or 5700X and maintain similar margins. I imagine they'll evaluate the market, and once 5600X/5800X stop going out of stock immediately after getting listed, they'll consider whether cheaper versions with lower base/boost would help them sell to those who felt left-out by the higher pricing.
A $225 5600 and a $350 5700X would sell like crazy.
I'd say the demand for that (5600X and 5900X) is sky-high, and the demand for non-X variants will be even higher. I really hope that AMD is churning out a ton of these lower-tier CPUs behind the scenes to launch in the new year.My own take is they won't release the non x parts until demand is such that the higher priced parts can stay in stock for a week or two. Why not get the cream while you can?
If you don't know the TDP they were testing with, you don't know MT perf.may not be much faster in MT than Renoir.
Clock is between 4.617 and 4.742 GHz according to the .gb5 listing. I wish GB5 would also list power usage because this is what Zen 3 has already shown on desktop: For MT there's now more headroom than with Zen 2, depending on the limits.Another GB5 entry, this time it's a 5900HX. Compared to the 5800H entry:
- ST score jumped from 1475 to 1547
- MT score goes up from 7630 to 9069
Zen 3 mobile APUs announced at CES.
Only for H, the U version is MIA.
No. Just look for the Anandtech article.
Only for H, the U version is MIA.