NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[Spacehead]

More like a hunter can enter spaces where the deer or other creatures congregated and breathed.

I mean, wasn't the wet market hypothesis that the lobbied "best" explanation given the extraordinary destruction and obfuscation of evidence(the equivalent of the cops destroying DNA that would implicate a killer). Wet markets are outdoors.

The there's the matter how the disease got to deer in the first place, given they are creatures that naturally social distance themselves from humans if humans are present; maybe mice got it from humans and go to the deer. Although they will walk into yards when humans are not present. I've seen them around in my area and they are common on NIST's grounds.

Zoo exhibit animals also have gotten COVID, and they are obviously get farther away than just 6 feet, to protect the people and such from bites, etc.

Are deer (or any animals) in the wild getting infected? I've not heard of this.

From my understanding, wet markets are packed with various animals that may or may not be normally near each other. And there are a bunch of people wondering around, all in a relatively confined area.

Deer hunting, or hunting in general, there are maybe a few people kinda close to each other(usually not) & animals at a distance.

 

[gill77]

More like a hunter can enter spaces where the deer or other creatures congregated and breathed.

I mean, wasn't the wet market hypothesis that the lobbied "best" explanation given the extraordinary destruction and obfuscation of evidence(the equivalent of the cops destroying DNA that would implicate a killer). Wet markets are outdoors.

The there's the matter how the disease got to deer in the first place, given they are creatures that naturally social distance themselves from humans if humans are present; maybe mice got it from humans and go to the deer. Although they will walk into yards when humans are not present. I've seen them around in my area and they are common on NIST's grounds.

Zoo exhibit animals also have gotten COVID, and they are obviously get farther away than just 6 feet, to protect the people and such from bites, etc.

When people feed deer, many of them will eat out of your hand, done it myself. Never indoors though.

 

[gill77]

Are deer (or any animals) in the wild getting infected? I've not heard of this.

From my understanding, wet markets are packed with various animals that may or may not be normally near each other. And there are a bunch of people wondering around, all in a relatively confined area.

Deer hunting, or hunting in general, there are maybe a few people kinda close to each other(usually not) & animals at a distance.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) recently completed a study that analyzed serum samples from free-ranging white-tailed deer for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). Results of the study indicate that certain white-tailed deer populations in Illinois, Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania were exposed to SARS-CoV-2.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ne...older-messages/wildlife-damage-news/deer-sars

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Without going to apocalyptic scenarios I highly doubt deer getting COVID AND it becoming a huge problem to hunters. Hunters don’t socialize with Deer and the meat is cooked plus covid doesn't stick to food or surfaces too good.
Yes there could be a Hollywood movie scenario where it mutates in deers them hits humans hard but come on that isn’t something to worry about right now.

 

[Torn Mind]

Are deer (or any animals) in the wild getting infected? I've not heard of this.

From my understanding, wet markets are packed with various animals that may or may not be normally near each other. And there are a bunch of people wondering around, all in a relatively confined area.

Deer hunting, or hunting in general, there are maybe a few people kinda close to each other(usually not) & animals at a distance.

USDA: COVID-19 antibodies found in wild deer

New research from the USDA found that one-third of blood samples collected from white-tailed deer in Illinois, Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania had COVID-19 antibodies, but is there any reason …

www.wkrn.com

Wild U.S. deer found with coronavirus antibodies

A new study detected coronavirus antibodies in 40 percent of deer tested this year. Here’s why that matters.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Deer in 4 states have been exposed to the coronavirus, USDA study shows.\u00a0What does that mean for humans?

Deer in Illinois, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania had evidence of exposure to COVID-19, and 40% of deer surveyed in 2021 had antibodies.

www.usatoday.com

I've always considered this thing much hardier than the "objective numbers" suggest, a rare instance in which real world effects are more powerful than the objective numbers imply. Then again, hydroflouric acid is "weak acid" based on measure but it can kill people and it exhibits other observable properties that differentiate it from the likes of vinegar.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Human corpses can still be contagious, although you really have to be trying to get infected by one. I assume the same is true for animals. Is delta more contagious in corpses? Maybe they can do some necropsies and test transmissibility to humans?


“Those droplets [from those who’ve died of COVID-19] can still come out of their mouth and nose and form a vapor that you can be exposed to,” Box said.

Funeral workers have had to use extensive PPE and safety measures when handling these cases.

“That just shows you how strong that virus is, that it can live … through the embalming process and then [after being] kept in refrigeration for three days,” Box said.”

Can you catch COVID from a corpse? It’s possible, but experts say not to worry

LUBBOCK, Texas — One of the many issues experts have been dealing with during the COVID-19 pandemic is how to combat how contagious the deadly virus is. In addition to being passed among livi…

www.google.com

 

[Muse]

Some other important implications. We never were going to get herd immunity with the current vaccinations, but this could be the nail in the coffin as far as ever achieving it. It also brings into question outdoor transmission, unless these deer are gathering indoors clandestinely.

Herd immunity is one thing, eradication is quite another. If immunity is sufficiently high in the human population, occasional transmission from a zoonotic host won't cause breakouts.

 

[Muse]

Has anyone heard of a person getting Covid from eating anything?

I put a lot of effort into washing my produce in 2020. I started hearing this about no evidence it could be caught from eating or handling food. I had to wonder, where would such evidence come from? How would they know. Now vaccinated, I don't worry about it and I take their word for it that fomite transmission is very unlikely with covid-19. However, I still wonder how can they determine how someone became infected.

I heard reports of the virus staying capable of infection for over a week on surfaces. This was assumed true for a long time. I have no idea where they got the idea that it wasn't true.

 

[Geekbabe]

We used to have to rotate PPE ( brown bag the mask for 5 days) then reuse. Now once we doff we are instructed to discard & then hand sanitize

 

[Muse]

We used to have to rotate PPE ( brown bag the mask for 5 days) then reuse. Now once we doff we are instructed to discard & then hand sanitize

I've been using some N95's for over a year. I donned one a couple days ago that looks pretty nasty, but I figure it still does the job. I wore it on my 10 mile daily skate on the streets because of the wildfire smoke here. Used to be for covid, but bought them for the fires in 2017. I don't toss N95s. These are 3M's, not crap.

 

[Captante]

I've been using some N95's for over a year. I donned one a couple days ago that looks pretty nasty, but I figure it still does the job. I wore it on my 10 mile daily skate on the streets because of the wildfire smoke here. Used to be for covid, but bought them for the fires in 2017. I don't toss N95s. These are 3M's, not crap.

After much debate I decided to just stick with those Adidas mask's I bought way back at the beginning. I wear them a few times then hand wash them with mild soap/warm water and let them hang for a week or two.

They won't stop a virus directly but they do stop all but the tiniest drops of liquid becoming airborne and 99% of breath doesn't pass through.... obviously not as good as an N95 but they've subjectively at least worked for me so far. (along with being vaccinated!)

 

[H T C]

I've been using some N95's for over a year. I donned one a couple days ago that looks pretty nasty, but I figure it still does the job. I wore it on my 10 mile daily skate on the streets because of the wildfire smoke here. Used to be for covid, but bought them for the fires in 2017. I don't toss N95s. These are 3M's, not crap.

I've been using this model to, from and @ work, supplied by my employer: https://piranhasupplies.com/wp-content/uploads/ptx_mask_v2.pdf

And i use a "community mask" either when i get visitors or when i go outside my house.

 

[manly]

I've been using some N95's for over a year. I donned one a couple days ago that looks pretty nasty, but I figure it still does the job. I wore it on my 10 mile daily skate on the streets because of the wildfire smoke here. Used to be for covid, but bought them for the fires in 2017. I don't toss N95s. These are 3M's, not crap.

Wait, what? Disposable N95s aren't designed to last forever. An informative engineer on YouTube has tested literally dozens of face masks and he says the media is good for 30-40 hours of typical office use. It's a good rule of thumb to use.

There is virtually no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 transmission from fomites. It's theoretically possible, but all the scrubbing of surfaces and sanitizing groceries falls under "hygiene theater":

https://twitter.com/x/status/1329807949481521152

I thought someone mentioned plastic barriers in this thread recently, and those are probably useless.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1428365085055938583

 

[Muse]

I've been using this model to, from and @ work, supplied by my employer: https://piranhasupplies.com/wp-content/uploads/ptx_mask_v2.pdf

And i use a "community mask" either when i get visitors or when i go outside my house.

This is what I use for covid-19. Truly has a great seal on my face. I got the 9210 not the pictured 9210+, which has elastic straps, which are great and durable. Mine had blue rubber band around the head straps instead and they can snap (I had several snap). I replaced all those rubber straps with elastic I bought online, using my sewing machine.

 

[Spacehead]

The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) recently completed a study that analyzed serum samples from free-ranging white-tailed deer for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). Results of the study indicate that certain white-tailed deer populations in Illinois, Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania were exposed to SARS-CoV-2.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ne...older-messages/wildlife-damage-news/deer-sars

USDA: COVID-19 antibodies found in wild deer

New research from the USDA found that one-third of blood samples collected from white-tailed deer in Illinois, Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania had COVID-19 antibodies, but is there any reason …

www.wkrn.com

Wild U.S. deer found with coronavirus antibodies

A new study detected coronavirus antibodies in 40 percent of deer tested this year. Here’s why that matters.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Deer in 4 states have been exposed to the coronavirus, USDA study shows.\u00a0What does that mean for humans?

Deer in Illinois, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania had evidence of exposure to COVID-19, and 40% of deer surveyed in 2021 had antibodies.

www.usatoday.com

I've always considered this thing much hardier than the "objective numbers" suggest, a rare instance in which real world effects are more powerful than the objective numbers imply. Then again, hydroflouric acid is "weak acid" based on measure but it can kill people and it exhibits other observable properties that differentiate it from the likes of vinegar.

Hmmm... ok. Thanks for the info.

 

[Geekbabe]

I've been using some N95's for over a year. I donned one a couple days ago that looks pretty nasty, but I figure it still does the job. I wore it on my 10 mile daily skate on the streets because of the wildfire smoke here. Used to be for covid, but bought them for the fires in 2017. I don't toss N95s. These are 3M's, not crap.

We have 3M but the delta variant is so contagious I suspect they don’t want us taking unnecessary risks.

 

[Geekbabe]

This is what I use for covid-19. Truly has a great seal on my face. I got the 9210 not the pictured 9210+, which has elastic straps, which are great and durable. Mine had blue rubber band around the head straps instead and they can snap (I had several snap). I replaced all those rubber straps with elastic I bought online, using my sewing machine.

We have the 9205, I see a lot of the Docs wearing the paper surgical masks beneath them. We have the blue strap & a red strap version…red strap is waterproof

 

[H T C]

This weekend is the 1st of two "aged 12 to 15 vaccination (1st dose) weekend": until 10:30 this morning, roughly 140K youngsters have taken their 1st dose in preparation for school. These weekends are exclusively reserved for youngsters within this age bracket: Portugal has decided to interrupt scheduled vaccinations of adults to do so.

Previous weekend was the "aged 17 to 18 vaccination (1st dose) weekend" and roughly 80% of those within this age bracket have already taken their 1st dose.

Remaining youngsters can apply to be vaccinated @ any other period but, unlike with these specially reserved periods, they'll do so with the "general yet-to-be-vaccinated population".

Portugal has already crossed 70% of the country's population fully vaccinated (even before this weekend) and is aiming to reach 85% by September's end if all goes well: we're currently the 3rd country in the world with the highest percentage of people fully vaccinated, and i'm actually both surprised AND proud of that.

 

[Muse]

We have the 9205, I see a lot of the Docs wearing the paper surgical masks beneath them. We have the blue strap & a red strap version…red strap is waterproof

I saw pictures of the 9205, looks very like my 9210's, which have been discontinued for a long time now (but can still be found). I figure my 20 for $10 N95 deals on Ebay (pre-pandemic) are a thing of the past!!!

I don't know why a doctor (or anyone) would want to wear a paper mask beneath a 9205 N95. Seems to me it would only serve to screw up the seal. If it were me, I'd wear the paper one OVER the 9205 N95. That would have to decrease transmission. The other way, I'm WTF.

 

[K1052]

Vaccinated people less infectious when breakthrough happens with Delta:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1429449468261322759

 

[gill77]

Vaccinated people less infectious when breakthrough happens with Delta:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1429449468261322759

I have no reason to believe that this is not a statistically significant difference. My guess is that it would not significantly alter our real world decision to be in an enclosed environment with either of those two groups.

It would not take much statistical analysis to prove the ballistic difference between a 45ACP and a 380ACP. Either would likely put most of us in avoidance mode.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I'm seeing roughly 1.5 log difference above 50% culture probability? So what, 30x lower viral load?

 

[jpiniero]

Rescue dogs shot dead by NSW council due to COVID-19 restrictions

Several impounded dogs have been shot by a rural council under its interpretation of COVID-19 restrictions.

www.smh.com.au

Ooh this is going to go over well. Rescue dogs were shot and killed due to not wanting people to pick them up due to covid restrictions in Australia?

 

[K1052]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1429798555280199688

https://twitter.com/x/status/1429800729917669379

 

[JM Aggie08]

Excellent news. Looking forward to evangelicals and other tards moving the goal posts, again.