Many Missouri HS students walk out to protest transgender using wrong bathroom

[Victorian Gray]

My ideal woman is a woman. My wife birthed 3 children and did so very well. Much more than you can say for any of the "women" you are advocating for.

I'm not "advocating" for any "women".

btw, after the 3rd child did you give her back her shoes?

 

[1prophet]

your ideal woman?

Funny how supposedly open minded liberals would criticize that as some form of male dominated religious based misogyny,

but defend this as religious freedom

 

[LegendKiller]

I'm not "advocating" for any "women".

btw, after the 3rd child did you give her back her shoes?

Actually, she voluntarily "retired". I know, how old fashioned. SJWs prefer that women have no choice, they must work. That's what emancipated women do, it is what they have to do, SJWs demand it.

 

[LegendKiller]

Funny how supposedly open minded liberals would criticize that as some form of male dominated religious based misogyny,

but defend this as religious freedom

They look down at any choice that doesn't fit their social agenda at any point in time.

 

[JSt0rm]

i love where the thread is going

 

[nixium]

Funny how supposedly open minded liberals would criticize that as some form of male dominated religious based misogyny,

but defend this as religious freedom

The way it works is that SJWs have a Hierarchy of Victimhood. What is viciously attacked and mocked for a class lower in the victim hierarchy is staunchly defended the higher, the more the class needs "saving". It seems illogical to us, but it makes sense to their odd world view. It's the sort of thing that creates safe spaces and avoids trigger words (such as fitness, weight loss) for fat girls, yet will force them to see an intact male, naked, in their bathrooms and locker rooms.

 

[LegendKiller]

The way it works is that SJWs have a Hierarchy of Victimhood. What is viciously attacked and mocked for a class lower in the victim hierarchy is staunchly defended the higher, the more the class needs "saving". It seems illogical to us, but it makes sense to their odd world view. It's the sort of thing that creates safe spaces and avoids trigger words (such as fitness, weight loss) for fat girls, yet will force them to see an intact male, naked, in their bathrooms and locker rooms.

Hence the jackass above mocking my wife for wanting kids, let alone 3. Feminists deride people who dare have 2, let alone more. And if you want to stay home with them? You are considered a traitor and are excommunicated from womanhood.

 

[BoberFett]

SJWs are, to but it bluntly, insane.

 

[PokerGuy]

SJWs are, to but it bluntly, insane.

Very true, but unfortunately their insanity appears to be easily transmittable to stupid people, so there's a large portion of the population very susceptible.

It's all about the totem pole of victimhood. Whichever cause is higher in the victimhood rankings is celebrated, logic or consistency be damned.

 

[nickqt]

Very true, but unfortunately their insanity appears to be easily transmittable to stupid people, so there's a large portion of the population very susceptible.

It's all about the totem pole of victimhood. Whichever cause is higher in the victimhood rankings is celebrated, logic or consistency be damned.

No one is higher up on the totem pole of victimhood than a conservative.

 

[werepossum]

lol Love that movie. Used to go see it at the midnight movie every month in high school.

 

[MongGrel]

lol Love that movie. Used to go see it at the midnight movie every month in high school.

Yeah, we had the vast majority of my graduating class and a few others go to one in 1980 just prior to graduation.

That was like a Mega party. Many odd things happened that night.

Even after I joined the Marines after and was stationed in CA we used to get a group together now and then and bomb up to El Camino Real and watch the staged show now and then with everyone dressed up.

*edit* was still in front of a screen at a movie theater though.

Not that it's that major of a difference really.

 

[werepossum]

Yeah, we had the vast majority of my graduating class and a few others go to one in 1980 just prior to graduation.

That was like a Mega party. Many odd things happened that night.

Even after I joined the Marines after and was stationed in CA we used to get a group together now and then and bomb up to El Camino Real and watch the staged show now and then with everyone dressed up.

I worked with a boy in the 80s who went to a stage play in Atlanta and after the play just walked back stage to hang out with the actors. Riff Raff was played by Rue Paul Jones (before he dropped the Jones) who gave him a book he had written. Literally written, and photocopied and stapled together.

See, that little side jaunt DID tie back to trans people. Transvestites anyway - like this boy.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Funny how supposedly open minded liberals would criticize that as some form of male dominated religious based misogyny,

but defend this as religious freedom

And I have defended burkas when/where?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Actually, she voluntarily "retired". I know, how old fashioned. SJWs prefer that women have no choice, they must work. That's what emancipated women do, it is what they have to do, SJWs demand it.

Not knowing any "SJWs" I have no idea what they demand/prefer. I leave that important work to the culture warriors like yourself. Keep fighting the good fight and I'm glad you have someone to clean the froth and spittle off of your monitor/keyboard for you.

 

[Exophase]

So you're advocating getting rid of gendered bathrooms and locker rooms altogether? Everything is gender neutral? I mean if it's OK for a boy who thinks he's a girl but still has a penis and is still attracted to girls to be in the girl's locker room because women should stop fearing rape, then it should be OK for a boy who thinks he's a boy and still has a penis and is attracted to girls to be in that same locker room, right?

But it's funny, gender equality is not what this student wants. This students wants to be treated like a girl, not use a gender neutral changing room. Make up your mind. Either segregation by physical traits is needed or it's not.

On a related note, it's also funny that while one side of the social justice brigade is trying tear down gender norms, the other is perpetuating them. Feminists claim there are no difference between the sexes while transgenders do everything possible to look like the other gender based on societal gender norms. This boy is wearing dresses and wigs because "that's what girls do." Kinda tears apart the whole feminist agenda, eh?

I actually didn't say anything about what I wanted or what I think everything should use. What I asked was what in this particular case people were so afraid of. Because it seems to me people have an irrational fear of this particular person being in their changing room.

I could turn it around and ask why the transgender teen is so adamant to not use the private gender neutral facility provided, or if the fear of using the male facility is really purely about a fear for safety. Both are valid questions.

 

[BoberFett]

I actually didn't say anything about what I wanted or what I think everything should use. What I asked was what in this particular case people were so afraid of. Because it seems to me people have an irrational fear of this particular person being in their changing room.

I could turn it around and ask why the transgender teen is so adamant to not use the private gender neutral facility provided, or if the fear of using the male facility is really purely about a fear for safety. Both are valid questions.

I thought it was clear from the whole discussion, this "girl" wants to be "treated like every other girl." Unfortunately for her she's not "like every other girl." Because she's a boy.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I actually didn't say anything about what I wanted or what I think everything should use. What I asked was what in this particular case people were so afraid of. Because it seems to me people have an irrational fear of this particular person being in their changing room.

I could turn it around and ask why the transgender teen is so adamant to not use the private gender neutral facility provided, or if the fear of using the male facility is really purely about a fear for safety. Both are valid questions.

I think this transgender nutcase has jumped the shark and it will never fly in that school.

 

[DCal430]

California and 14 other states MANDATE that students be allowed to use which lockeroom and restroom they feel represents their gender. These states trans girls are using girls locker rooms and their hasn't been any issue. Saying you respect them, but then deny their right to express their gender is no different than saying you respect homosexuals, but saying marriage is only between a man and woman. It is clear that most people on this forum are bigots.

There is a reason why most progressive areas and people have condemned your opinion as bigotry.

 

[Knowing]

Oooh, ooh, I have a picture for this.

An article, by a feminist who was apparently raised by wolves.

free upload pictures

Some anecdata- to satisfy a requirement and push my own boundaries I took a gender studies course (that of course was uncleverly disguised as something slightly different). In the course of instruction we did a bathroom study and found that the male bathrooms (the school was built in the early 1900's and focused on engineering) were capable of supporting more users (urinals) than the female restrooms. The proposed "solution" was to make all the bathrooms single user so that everyone could experience lines for the bathrooms equally.

 

[LegendKiller]

California and 14 other states MANDATE that students be allowed to use which lockeroom and restroom they feel represents their gender. These states trans girls are using girls locker rooms and their hasn't been any issue. Saying you respect them, but then deny their right to express their gender is no different than saying you respect homosexuals, but saying marriage is only between a man and woman. It is clear that most people on this forum are bigots.

There is a reason why most progressive areas and people have condemned your opinion as bigotry.

Yes, because liberalism stands in the way of logic.

 

[werepossum]

I actually didn't say anything about what I wanted or what I think everything should use. What I asked was what in this particular case people were so afraid of. Because it seems to me people have an irrational fear of this particular person being in their changing room.

I could turn it around and ask why the transgender teen is so adamant to not use the private gender neutral facility provided, or if the fear of using the male facility is really purely about a fear for safety. Both are valid questions.

Using the male facility would not be a reasonable accommodation either. "She" should use the gender neutral facilities provided, which honors "her" feelings without imposing them on everyone else. Then when "she" is an adult, "she" can use whatever facilities "she" wishes, assuming "she" can pass and doesn't get the cops called on "her" every time "she" needs to pee. There are some adults who go back and forth and thus go back and forth in restrooms as well - although dressing rooms and showers probably remain problematic.

Crap, I could use some of those 58 gender terms right about now. Would cut out a lot of double quotes.

 

[DCal430]

THE ONLY palaces were people are protesting this type of thing are in the most backwards, hateful, and bigoted places in the U.S. The deep red areas. This about this, you are associating your self with these type of people.

 

[werepossum]

California and 14 other states MANDATE that students be allowed to use which lockeroom and restroom they feel represents their gender. These states trans girls are using girls locker rooms and their hasn't been any issue. Saying you respect them, but then deny their right to express their gender is no different than saying you respect homosexuals, but saying marriage is only between a man and woman. It is clear that most people on this forum are bigots.

There is a reason why most progressive areas and people have condemned your opinion as bigotry.

And that reason is that most progressive people are idiots without the sense G-d gave a goose.

Oooh, ooh, I have a picture for this.

An article, by a feminist who was apparently raised by wolves.

free upload pictures

Some anecdata- to satisfy a requirement and push my own boundaries I took a gender studies course (that of course was uncleverly disguised as something slightly different). In the course of instruction we did a bathroom study and found that the male bathrooms (the school was built in the early 1900's and focused on engineering) were capable of supporting more users (urinals) than the female restrooms. The proposed "solution" was to make all the bathrooms single user so that everyone could experience lines for the bathrooms equally.

Potty parity laws are always amusing. Having determine that your facility is 50% male and 50% female, by law the women must have at least twenty-six water closets and the men must have at least two urinals and this bucket.

 

[Knowing]

These states trans girls are using girls locker rooms and their hasn't been any issue.

A quibble: we haven't heard about any issues, that doesn't mean that there haven't been any.