Many Missouri HS students walk out to protest transgender using wrong bathroom

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bshole

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So you're advocating getting rid of gendered bathrooms and locker rooms altogether? Everything is gender neutral? I mean if it's OK for a boy who thinks he's a girl but still has a penis and is still attracted to girls to be in the girl's locker room because women should stop fearing rape, then it should be OK for a boy who thinks he's a boy and still has a penis and is attracted to girls to be in that same locker room, right?

I actually had the same thought, the next step is to just make the locker rooms gender-less. Everybody sees everybody's junk. If we aren't going to discriminate based on genitalia but on brain waves, what is the fucking point....
 

MongGrel

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I thought it was clear from the whole discussion, this "girl" wants to be "treated like every other girl." Unfortunately for her she's not "like every other girl." Because she's a boy.

Captain Obvious strikes again.
 

werepossum

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I actually had the same thought, the next step is to just make the locker rooms gender-less. Everybody sees everybody's junk. If we aren't going to discriminate based on genitalia but on brain waves, what is the fucking point....
Eventually we'll just have all the kids go to school naked so they get over these silly Puritan hang-ups.

Captain Obvious strikes again.
Obviously it isn't obvious to everyone. A sizable minority believes (or at least pretends to believe - I always doubt that level of stupidity is sincere) that if the boy believes he is a girl, then he is a girl, and anyone doubting this is an ignorant backwoods inbred hillbilly.

I hope they have all access to the roofs blocked off, just in case he decides he is a dragon or a pigeon.
 

woolfe9998

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Oooh, ooh, I have a picture for this.

An article, by a feminist who was apparently raised by wolves.
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Some anecdata- to satisfy a requirement and push my own boundaries I took a gender studies course (that of course was uncleverly disguised as something slightly different). In the course of instruction we did a bathroom study and found that the male bathrooms (the school was built in the early 1900's and focused on engineering) were capable of supporting more users (urinals) than the female restrooms. The proposed "solution" was to make all the bathrooms single user so that everyone could experience lines for the bathrooms equally.

The author of your article is a confessed internet troll who is expressing provocative opinions in order to stir up debate. Try googling "Amy Glass".
 

Knowing

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The author of your article is a confessed internet troll who is expressing provocative opinions in order to stir up debate. Try googling "Amy Glass".

A lot of confessed internet trolls started the #endfathersday hashtag. That doesn't mean that people didn't agree wholeheartedly and without reservation. If you would like for me to produce more material aligning to this way of thinking I'd be happy to.
 

woolfe9998

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A lot of confessed internet trolls started the #endfathersday hashtag. That doesn't mean that people didn't agree wholeheartedly and without reservation. If you would like for me to produce more material aligning to this way of thinking I'd be happy to.

If you can prove that this "way of thinking" is a remotely common view point, you're free to try. And to be clear: the opinion expressed in that article was that women who are homemakers are held in contempt, and that raising children is "easy." It isn't the more commonly held view that women shouldn't feel indoctrinated into believing that staying at home is their only option, and that women can in fact be as successful as men.
 
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CitizenKain

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No one is higher up on the totem pole of victimhood than a conservative.

They are the kind of people with limited enough mental ability where they think being a white male is the most persecuted person on the planet. Generally they think this because they to go back to the days when screaming racial slurs at people was considered acceptable.

Yet another childless person offering an opinion that they have no relevant experience to justify.

I'd turn around and sue the school.

I don't give a flying fuck through a rolling donut what you say this boy is. Chopping off a dick makes this boy as much of a woman as a white person applying blackface and saying they are black. You are born male and will die male no matter what you do to your dick, or your hormones.

Is there a single thing you aren't a complete fucking idiot about? Jesus, I feel bad for any kids you have, genetics are not in their favor. Oh shit, I see that you did. Welp, hopefully they don't end up as dumb as you are and escape when they hit 18.
 
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Hence the jackass above mocking my wife for wanting kids, let alone 3. Feminists deride people who dare have 2, let alone more. And if you want to stay home with them? You are considered a traitor and are excommunicated from womanhood.

You think that I mocked your wife? You really are a clueless git.
 

LegendKiller

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They are the kind of people with limited enough mental ability where they think being a white male is the most persecuted person on the planet. Generally they think this because they to go back to the days when screaming racial slurs at people was considered acceptable.



Is there a single thing you aren't a complete fucking idiot about? Jesus, I feel bad for any kids you have, genetics are not in their favor. Oh shit, I see that you did. Welp, hopefully they don't end up as dumb as you are and escape when they hit 18.
So you can change your dna? Didnyou just invent that?
 

Ackmed

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Hence the jackass above mocking my wife for wanting kids, let alone 3. Feminists deride people who dare have 2, let alone more. And if you want to stay home with them? You are considered a traitor and are excommunicated from womanhood.

It is sad that it is that way, and you're right. Some women get really offended if you even open the door for them, it is ridiculous.
 

LegendKiller

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You think that I mocked your wife? You really are a clueless git.
In bringing up what kind of woman would appeal to me, then trying to say I would force her to stay home barefoot and pregnant you do mock her, regardless of whether your pathetic attempt was to be and me a misogynist.
 

Murloc

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Chopping off a dick makes this boy as much of a woman as a white person applying blackface and saying they are black. You are born male and will die male no matter what you do to your dick, or your hormones.
well the surgery is actually much better than that.

If this transsexual had tits and a reconstructed vagina, there would have been no problem.

But this is not the case.
 

LegendKiller

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well the surgery is actually much better than that.

If this transsexual had tits and a reconstructed vagina, there would have been no problem.

But this is not the case.
Do you have the dna of a male or female after the surgery. Do you have a uterus, ovaries, real vagina? Can you lactate? Do you have periods? Can you become pregnant? If all , or a majority, of those are no, you are not a female.
 
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mikeymikec

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Out of curiosity, those that are using the "transgender person with male genitals cannot go into a gendered facility for women because this person might be sexually attracted to that gender" argument, have you thought about how your logic applies to gay (yet cisgender) people?

Do you have the dna of a male or female after the surgery. Do you have a uterus, ovaries, real vagina? Can you lactate? Do you have periods? Can you become pregnant? If all , or a majority, of those are no, you are not a female.

So if an otherwise normal woman lacks any of the above, she's not a woman? Ooookay. Your argument does not pass Go or collect $200. You might want to give your high school biology books a bit more of your time before taking part in these sorts of discussions.
 
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momeNt

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Um... having looked at the pictures on my son's Iphone I would have to decidely disagree with you. From what I saw, todays teenagers have no problem with showing off their naked bodies. I had to explain to him that SEXTING is a federal crime when it involves minors. I think perhaps there is an issue with FAT kids self-image, the FIT kids have no such hangups.

Pretty sure if you viewed naked pictures of your son, or of other people he received pictures from, and they were minors. You also committed a federal crime.

For this reason you should probably never look at a minors phone. Really minors in general should be grown up on a government farm and released when they reach the age of majority. Way too much risk dealing with them, even if they are your own kid.
 

BoberFett

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Do you have the dna of a male or female after the surgery. Do you have a uterus, ovaries, real vagina? Can you lactate? Do you have periods? Can you become pregnant? If all , or a majority, of those are no, you are not a female.

Actually males can lactate, even as non-altered males.

To your other points though, DNA doesn't matter. Only feelings. Because liberals.
 

Cozarkian

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Out of curiosity, those that are using the "transgender person with male genitals cannot go into a gendered facility for women because this person might be sexually attracted to that gender" argument, have you thought about how your logic applies to gay (yet cisgender) people?

I didn't actually advance that argument, but I will note there is a difference. First, heterosexual sex is still more socially accepted so it is less likely that gay people would fool around in the locker room because their peers would put a stop to it.

Second, in the very unlikely event that something did happen, sex with the transgender person carries the risk of pregnancy.
 

Murloc

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Do you have the dna of a male or female after the surgery. Do you have a uterus, ovaries, real vagina? Can you lactate? Do you have periods? Can you become pregnant? If all , or a majority, of those are no, you are not a female.
No but you don't make other women too uncomfortable plus you can't rape them or get a hard on without a dick.

Who cares about DNA if the physical appearance and brain waves match (from a locker room point of view, otherwise there's another discussion about this in L&R).
Even in Iran you're fully considered a woman if you go through the whole process. Cis-genderism is enforced though.

Out of curiosity, those that are using the "transgender person with male genitals cannot go into a gendered facility for women because this person might be sexually attracted to that gender" argument, have you thought about how your logic applies to gay (yet cisgender) people?
if you make this argument then we could make gender-neutral locker rooms for everybody since the girls are going to be abused by lesbians anyway. Or 52 locker rooms to accomodate every possible situation.
In reality gays are just a few and they're discrete.

Also this being not a prison, someone subduing a male and doing gay butt rape is unlikely.
Now if you make gender-neutral locker rooms, the risk of abuse increases.

I guess it's a matter of statistics. It's really unlikely that a gang of gay rapists takes over a gym shower.
A gang of heterosexual molesters is much more likely.
 

mikeymikec

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I didn't actually advance that argument, but I will note there is a difference. First, heterosexual sex is still more socially accepted so it is less likely that gay people would fool around in the locker room because their peers would put a stop to it.

Second, in the very unlikely event that something did happen, sex with the transgender person carries the risk of pregnancy.

Are you telling me that you honestly believe the part of your first argument (wrt "would put a stop to it"), yet you really don't think the same would apply in the event of a transperson and whoever else was having sex in such a facility? Two people having sex in a changing room full of other people and no-one tells on them (or otherwise tries to disrupt it)?

Yes, your second scenario carries the risk of pregnancy, and assuming that the consenting couple are wily enough to do it alone, then there's any chance they're likely to do it in the gendered facilities or anywhere else? Furthermore, let's say that an anatomically correct male who is trans and a female want to have sex, yet the former isn't allowed to go into the girls changing room, then what's stopping them being wily enough to do it undisturbed in either the boys' or girls' room? Your point here is pretty much irrelevant IMO.

if you make this argument then we could make gender-neutral locker rooms for everybody since the girls are going to be abused by lesbians anyway.

Is this actually based on anything factual (just aside from the sexist nonsense of course)?

In reality gays are just a few and they're discrete.
In reality transpeople are even fewer than gay people, and as this thread shows, people are a lot less tolerant of transpeople than they are of gay people. Factor that into the likelihood of anything sexually inappropriate going on.
 
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fskimospy

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Also this being not a prison, someone subduing a male and doing gay butt rape is unlikely.
Now if you make gender-neutral locker rooms, the risk of abuse increases.

I guess it's a matter of statistics. It's really unlikely that a gang of gay rapists takes over a gym shower.
A gang of heterosexual molesters is much more likely.

How likely do you think it is that a gang of heterosexual molesters will take over a locker room and start molesting people? With that number in mind, what percentage of these heterosexual rape squads do you think would be deterred by a 'girls only' sign on the door?
 

sm625

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I'm just going to quote Karl Denninger, since he says what needs to be said so succinctly:

Mr. Perry is a boy. He was born with a penis and testicles, and does not have a vagina, uterus or ovaries. This is a biological fact and disagreeing with facts is the mark of someone who is delusional, psychotic or both.
 

K1052

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First, heterosexual sex is still more socially accepted so it is less likely that gay people would fool around in the locker room because their peers would put a stop to it.

What happens in the steam room stays in the steam room.
 

Exophase

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In reality gays are just a few and they're discrete.

Transgender women are even fewer and probably in general at least as discrete. They're also more likely to be exclusively sexually attracted to males than cisgender men are.
 

LegendKiller

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No but you don't make other women too uncomfortable plus you can't rape them or get a hard on without a dick.

Who cares about DNA if the physical appearance and brain waves match (from a locker room point of view, otherwise there's another discussion about this in L&R).
Even in Iran you're fully considered a woman if you go through the whole process. Cis-genderism is enforced though.


if you make this argument then we could make gender-neutral locker rooms for everybody since the girls are going to be abused by lesbians anyway. Or 52 locker rooms to accomodate every possible situation.
In reality gays are just a few and they're discrete.

Also this being not a prison, someone subduing a male and doing gay butt rape is unlikely.
Now if you make gender-neutral locker rooms, the risk of abuse increases.

I guess it's a matter of statistics. It's really unlikely that a gang of gay rapists takes over a gym shower.
A gang of heterosexual molesters is much more likely.

Yes, as long as people want to kill other people the brainwaves and actions match. And before you claim that transgenderism is a victimless crime just stop. You are forcing this insane notion on kids and fucking their brains up with a belief they can be something they aren't.

There is no scientific proof that "brainwaves" match. There is psychologist and sociologist bullshit.
 

LegendKiller

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Actually males can lactate, even as non-altered males.

To your other points though, DNA doesn't matter. Only feelings. Because liberals.
What % is that? Not much.

And the rest applies. I am surprised a liberal wasn't splitting hairs like that.


Are you becoming transpolitical on us?