Kids in the UK as young as 8 to be taught boys can have periods too

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fskimospy

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And that’s your opinion. The gravity of how much it matters doesn’t mean the title is inaccurate.

The title is deliberately meant to make the idea sound absurd and we both know this. When you actually read the basis for the document what they are saying makes perfect sense.
 

UglyCasanova

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If it sounds absurd to you ask yourself why. Regardless this forum is full of absurd sounding titles, feel free to discuss the actual topic instead of semantics on whether you agree with the title.
 

fskimospy

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If it sounds absurd to you ask yourself why. Regardless this forum is full of absurd sounding titles, feel free to discuss the actual topic instead of semantics on whether you agree with the title.

I did discuss the actual topic in my post, it seems perfectly reasonable once you read what they were actually doing!

Honestly I'm struggling to see why anyone would care - usually when someone worries about something making their kids confused though they mean that they personally are made uncomfortable by it.
 

UglyCasanova

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To me and many others it doesn’t seem like maybe the wisest move to not only introduce the topic of puberty and menstruation with very young kids but the idea of gender spectrums and disphoria and that boys could have periods too if they biologically are actually girls. 8 year olds.
 

fskimospy

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To me and many others it doesn’t seem like maybe the wisest move to not only introduce the topic of puberty and menstruation with very young kids but the idea of gender spectrums and disphoria and that boys could have periods too if they biologically are actually girls. 8 year olds.

What about it do you consider unwise? Is there a specific harm you believe will result from this and if so, why?

Also, is there any non-sex related medical information that you think kids should not learn about their bodies?
 

WelshBloke

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I don’t think it is fake news though, the arguments that the title is misleading are a stretch. The kids claim to identify as boys which is what the title says. To say no they’re not real boys, they’re transgender boys seems to be counter to what you’re arguing. If it said biological males then you’d have a point I guess. Unless you’re claiming transgenders that were born female aren’t really boys?
I'm not arguing a point. They are providing sanitary products to people who need them. You (and the daily mail) are injecting opinion and gender politics into this.

Also as you seem to be being genuine here does this mean that your position is now that female to male trans people should now be referred to as males?
 

UglyCasanova

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I’m fine with providing sanitary products free to all, that’s not the issue. Yes I’m interjecting politics into it, this is a political discussion forum so that’s kinda the point. And I thought we are supposed to refer to transgenders by the gender they identify with are we not?
 

IronWing

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If it sounds absurd to you ask yourself why. Regardless this forum is full of absurd sounding titles, feel free to discuss the actual topic instead of semantics on whether you agree with the title.
The title is intended to deceive so it is perfectly reasonable that it became the focus of the discussion.
 

Viper1j

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...oys-periods-new-sex-education-guidelines.html

Sex education lessons in which pupils as young as eight will be told ‘all genders’ have periods were yesterday condemned as unnecessarily confusing for young children.​
The classes follow guidelines that were issued to teachers to help them avoid offending girls who identify as boys.​
But critics described the guidelines as inappropriate and another example of political correctness gone mad.​
The teacher guidance, from Brighton & Hove City Council, states: ‘Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods.’ It says language about menstruation must be inclusive of ‘all genders’ and orders that ‘bins for used period products are provided in all toilets’ for children.​
Lovely. Kids as young as 8 being taught boys can menstruate also. Confusing time in their lives (I have a 10 year old daughter who had her first period about 3 months ago) and to add the concept of a girl who doesn’t identify as such and thinks she’s a boy even though biologically she’s a girl so is having a period like the other girls but call him a he (or xe, or whatever) to an 8 year old is beyond absurd. Society is going to find there’s a heavy price to pay in another decade or two when this push comes to roost and these kids commit suicide because of something their looney mom pushed on them.

The 11 year old transsexual Desmond is Amazing recently made an appearance in drag at a NYC gay dance club where he danced on stage as patrons threw dollar bills at him. My apologies for the Daily Wire link

https://www.dailywire.com/news/3940...-drag-dances-gay-men-bar-amanda-prestigiacomo

And is being celebrated on a giant digital billboard in a Time Square because #sobrave. Which no doubt is going to fuel looney parents to push this crap on their kids

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This is where are.

No, it's where THEY are..

I will remain here, on planet Earth, happy andsafe..

 

mikeymikec

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To me and many others it doesn’t seem like maybe the wisest move to not only introduce the topic of puberty and menstruation with very young kids.

I’m fine with providing sanitary products free to all

Just not educating children about what comes next, nor trusting those who very likely have relevant qualifications and experience. Nah, let's leave that to parents, some of whom believe that menstruating women should live as outcasts because they're so very unclean. Good plan.
 

Lanyap

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What's wrong with the phrase "period poverty"? Its a bit trite yeah but plenty of kids struggle to buy sanitary products, particularly if they find it difficult to talk to their parents about this sort of thing.


How the fuck has providing free sanitary products in schools become the slightest bit controversial?


The poverty aspect is for the poor girls who cannot afford period supplies and are missing school because of it. That is the main reason for this period poverty effort but then when they get into implementation it encompasses the transgender trend which gets into the controversial aspects like putting red boxes in the boys bathroom for the transgender males who still have a vag so they don't feel alienated.
 

WelshBloke

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To me and many others it doesn’t seem like maybe the wisest move to not only introduce the topic of puberty and menstruation with very young kids but the idea of gender spectrums and disphoria and that boys could have periods too if they biologically are actually girls. 8 year olds.
You think we should teach kids that are going to have periods that they are going to have periods?
 

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Will you only believe in gravity, if it comes from a source that you like?

If the sole source for the theory of gravity was the Daily Mail, I would be highly skeptical about its existence or accuracy.

I can’t believe this is a serious argument. The Daily Mail is notorious for false or inaccurate reporting.
 

Viper1j

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If the sole source for the theory of gravity was the Daily Mail, I would be highly skeptical about its existence or accuracy.

I can’t believe this is a serious argument. The Daily Mail is notorious for false or inaccurate reporting.

You mean like Fox News?
 

WelshBloke

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...gets into the controversial aspects like putting red boxes in the boys bathroom for the transgender males who still have a vag so they don't feel alienated.

Why is it controversial to have those in the boys bathroom? Are boys allergic to cotton or something?
 

fskimospy

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So hey I'm trying to discuss the topic here but nobody seems to be answering. Why is giving this sort of education unwise? Why is putting tampons in a boys bathroom bad?

Trying to figure out the negative effects here because I honestly can't think of any other than some adults think it's icky.
 

Lanyap

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Why is it controversial to have those in the boys bathroom? Are boys allergic to cotton or something?


I'm not familiar with this particular region. Are trans boys already allowed to use the boys bathrooms in all school grades?
 

WelshBloke

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I’m fine with providing sanitary products free to all, that’s not the issue.

That's exactly the issue. Then theres the imaginary issue that the Daily mail has invented and that you are getting worked up over
Yes I’m interjecting politics into it, this is a political discussion forum so that’s kinda the point.

But this is a practical solution to a practical problem. It doesn't politicise the issue. You are of course free to politicise a practical issue.

And I thought we are supposed to refer to transgenders by the gender they identify with are we not?

So which are you going to pick?
 

Lanyap

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OMG, the document is promoting a period emoji. ;)
Explore the social media campaign for the period emoji in challenging stigma and embarrassment.


Looks like someone has already been working on it. May be NSFW (at least for now).
https://www.google.com/search?q=per...aXZ3azfAhWyVN8KHb-9AEAQ9QEwBHoECAAQBg#imgrc=_


Oh, yes, the article is misleading. IMO boys should be made aware of periods. I'm not sure how young they should start. It seems boys and girls are sexually maturing earlier than they did in the past.
Sex education lessons in which pupils as young as eight will be told ‘all genders’ have periods were yesterday condemned as unnecessarily confusing for young children.

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The teacher guidance, from Brighton & Hove City Council, states: ‘Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods.’ It says language about menstruation must be inclusive of ‘all genders’ and orders that ‘bins for used period products are provided in all toilets’ for children