woolfe9998
Lifer
- Apr 8, 2013
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There is nothing aspirational about enlightenment as you put it. My experience was only made possible by the death of all hope, all aspirations if you will Neither by blood, nationality, religion am I anything. They all failed to save me from Nothing, the existential no exit that haunts us were you but aware of that feeling. All proved empty of value or meaning, all a wasted misplacement identity.
So it has nothing to do really as to what I desire because in the real world you claim to represent your way will lead to extinction and mine to the joy of being. That is just how it is. It only happens that I know it. The same will always become obvious who any who seek to know why they suffer.
May your needs to defend your position break on the rocks you face.
I am happy not to feel any need to defend a political system that bombs women and children in sufficiently small numbers that the term genocide can be argued not to apply. Hope some day you will join me. I still remember what hope was like.
I'm not defending a "political system." I explained the reality of that system to you, to wit, that no leader of a democracy is going to do nothing after an attack of that magnitude. Which is quite obviously an accurate description of the real world of politics.
The bolded is rank straw mannery, and it's pretty offensive even as straw mannery goes. Nowhere have I espoused some weird binary view where anything not genocide is A-OK. Yet you're the second person now who has tried to get away with pinning that fictional argument on me.
To be clear, this started with you and several others repeatedly using this word "genocide" in relationship to Israel. I then asked for proof of the accusation. I made several arguments. Now you claim I'm using genocide as a semantic trick to hide lesser crimes? Really? Yet I'm not the one who repeatedly used the word to begin with. I just wanted to discuss whether it was really accurate. Because, in addition to its formal definition, it also has a particularly nasty connotation, like worse than calling someone a racist or child molester. That sort of language is a form of aggression, be it deserved or not. I just thought that since this kind of language tends to blacken the accused, maybe the allegation should be made with a little more care than people just throwing it around because of their politics and their feels.
Anyway, I'll cut from this thread as I did the other. There's no further value I an add here beyond whatever I have said maybe getting through to someone sometime.