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Illegal immigration a disaster for the United States.
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Sinsear
Diamond Member
I'll always touch this one when it comes up; you hit the nail on the head repeatedly post after post and I agree with you %100. I'm tired of being "invaded" and "occupied" by illegals who think they should have the same rights as me. I also am disgusted at the fact that some of my taxes go towards giving them free healthcare or tuition at college while I have to work my ass off for it.
We need to settle this issue once and for all or our country will soon be referred to as Los Estados Mexicanos or something like that. And the balls on these motherfvckers marching and holding rallies waving mexican flags; it makes me sick.
exdeath
Lifer
Some of them are at least starting to wave American flags, at least they learned something from last time. It's a start.
As for being invaded and occupied, the claim is that they were here first and we stole their land and they are just taking it back, etc. Incorrect. The Native Americans owned these lands long before there was even a such thing as Mexico or a Mexican. The Aztecs started wars, conquered, destroyed, and stole land from other tribes and cultures all on their own before the Americas where even discovered by the Europeans.
Some interesting things I dug up from Wikipedia that back what I already metioned (it is factual history that I leaned in my own studies of pre-colonial times and cultures for my humanities credits, so I only source it because it is accurate so far as I remember):
Who stole what now? I wonder if the lady with the "I am in my homeland, know the history" sign in the rally video knows her own damn history. Sad that a beloved patriot knows more about that history than someone claiming to be Mexican.
Nobody alive today is responsible for the history that has already happened. But here we all are and we have to share the planet. Deal with it. You have your country, I have mine. If Mexicans want to dispute the past, I can take that past back before there ever was a Mexican.
Besides all that, white Europeans only invaded, conquered, raped, pillaged, and stole land from the Northern American Natives. It was the Spanish who invaded, conquered, raped, pillaged, and stole land from the Central American Natives, the Aztecs, etc. Go take if up with Spain if you have a problem with old world history.
If I go to Mexico I will be prepared to obey Mexican laws and not question Mexican practices, regardless of what I think of them, as long as I am south of the border. I am outsider in a foreign country and I will behave accordingly. If I don't like them I will bitch about them all I want here in my country and just not go anywhere else. Likewise I expect the same in return. The Mexican government exists for the Mexican people, not for me. Likewise the American government exists to serve the needs of American citizens, not Mexicans. What is so hard to understand about that?
I hope the new Mexican president is serious about revitalizing the Mexican economy and keeping Mexicans in Mexico. But if we don't do something about the political correctness and socialist entitlement factions in the USA, it won't do any good unless the Mexican president plans to PAY them to stay, because you can't beat the price of free (in the USA) any other way.
And I don't care if Mexicans are catholic, don't believe in birth control, and are overpopulated because they have too many kids. Thats not my problem. Keep it on the other side of the border and figure it out yourself. We have our own problems.
exdeath
Lifer
I'm not against immigration or Mexicans. I am against illegal immigration and the exploitation of my country, especially when groups claim they are entitled to do so under false pretenses.
Immigration really only bothers me when it allows for a disproportionately larger share of the negative aspects of a foreign culture working it's way into our demographics. For every father that just wants to chase the American dream for his family, there are 10 pregnant teenagers looking to drop off an anchor baby at the border Walmart at 3am, 10 drug smugglers and gang members, etc, sneaking across illegally with nothing to fear except having to sneak across again if they get caught and deported.
It is the unrestricted presence of a land border that allows for this imbalanced ratio. Closing the border and regulating the flow of immigrants in a controlled legal manner would clean up a lot of the mess if there was an effective way to do it. Restricting public services to citizens or legal residents who enter via that proposed legal avenue would go a long way to curbing a lot of that activity. If you know your anchor baby is going to reap bad consequences and wont get free health care or become a citizen if you sneak across instead of going through the main gate where we know your name and address in case you do something illegal, you probably won't do it.
Of course using excessive entry fees for a visa like $10,000 to prohibit legal immigration, I don't agree with that either. All I want to know is that you are going to support yourself, respect others and their property, take responsibility for your actions instead of running back to Mexico to hide from the police when you get in trouble for being up to no good, and try to be American, and not march around in my neighborhood claiming you are in Mexico while waving foreign flags and threatening reconquista. If you can do that, you should be granted a chance at legal citizenship, and I will welcome you as my neighbor. I don't care if it's free.
But this sums it up best:
The only reason immigration is a hot issue right now, and specially immigration from Mexico, is because they aren't willingly melting in the pot like the previous waves of immigrants from other cultures. Well thats not true, many of them are, many of them embrace the same values as previous immigrants as far as education, learning English, priding oneself on not taking handouts, fitting in to American society, etc. But due to the ease of crossing the land border en masse and with complete anonymity, there is no 'quality control' for lack of a more politically correct term, which results in an overwhelmingly higher number of immigrants coming here who do not share those values, in proportion to the ones who do. Those looking for a free ride at my expense. The ones driving Escalades with 8 LCD screens on the way to DES for their next paycheck.
As I said before, where is "press 1 for Japanese"? We don't have it because Japanese immigrants understood that immigrating to another country meant that you adopt and accept the ways of that country. And where are all the Chinese and African flags and people marching in the streets with nationalistic bandannas and masks threatening the sovereignty of their host country?
They don't exist. And if they did and I am not aware of that history, it was wrong then and it is wrong now. But since the issue is with Mexican immigrants today, and I wasn't alive during for the past waves of immigrants, I will focus on what is relevant to me today. When it comes to immigration circa 2007, that means Mexico, not Vietnam, not India, not China, not Europe.
Interesting though that in that long ass post with facts and history, all you got from it is " you must be against immigrants and Mexicans". Care to actually address some of the things that were actually contained therein and not just what you wanted to see and conclude? I hate it when people side step pages and pages of legitimate points and reply with a one liner that has absolutely nothing to do with the post they are replying to.
exdeath
Lifer
That best thing about that is, if somehow things got to the brink of civil war and marshal law and all that doomsday gloom and doom stuff (immigration related riots in France anyone? That sh1t wouldn't stand here in America, I'd estimate no more than 10 cars being torched before the aggressors started getting shot by citizens and there wouldn't be anything the police or government could do about it),
..anyway after taking out the anti American socialist factions from Mexico as they march up here, I'd seize the opportunity to act with impunity in the wake of the chaos to hit Tennessee and take out the KKK headquarters as well, along of course with all the liberal media outlets, brainwash camps known as ivy league universities, ACLU, etc. Might as well get it all in one go while nobody is keeping count.
Free speech protection is protection from government harassment. Not from citizens in civil war when it comes to treasonous hate groups such as the ACLU and the KKK. 😀
I don't discriminate. I hate everything that is destroying America.
PS: I know that makes me sound like an apocalyptic nut case or something, but I don't hope or anticipate that scenario happening, as I rather enjoy the comfort of being able to go to work, go to school, work on my car, computer, etc, and I hope the politics work themselves out and fix the problem before it gets that bad. But I can't say that if that was the situation around me that I wouldn't take advantage of it to do some good.
I don't reply to the same old talking points and extreme exaggeration that have plagued the debate on immigration for years. If anyone actually wanted to debate immigration they'd at least have a clue about the process.
For the last time. I'm against illegal immigration. I want to secure our borders. However, it is horribly foolish to attempt to do that by any type of forced deportation of current immigrants here, or without reforming the existing system and laws. The existing system is horribly inefficient and unworkable. We can spend Billions on fences and ICE enforcement, but if we don't fix the laws that cause the problem to exist then there's no point.
I am tired of people who rant against illegal immigrants and put out exaggerated or fake statistics, anecdotal BS, or simply regurgitate the same Tancredo or talkshow talking points that they here. If someone wants an honest debate I'm up for it. Until then, the red herrings about them "taking over" and refusing to assimilate (both untrue) are worthless empy statements that I will not waste my time on.
To sum it all up, I'd love to fix our immigration system, stop illegal immigration, and work to make sure our residents are legal, follow the laws, and don't have any advantages over American Citizens. But, these debates are sabotaged by bigotry, ignorance, flawed policy ideas, exaggeration, myopia, and general stupidity. My ears immediately close when I hear someone repeat what Tancredo or Lou Dobbs just said the day before. You folks are trying to attack a problem by starting at the top instead of at the root. We could increase ICE funding by Billions and still not achieve better results -- even with a border fence. Not when visas are pretty much impossible to get for the vast majority of poor immigrants (the ones that want to come here and work) due to the expensive, bureaucratic, and paralytically slow system.
exdeath
Lifer
Agreed on alot of things here, just so you know. I know I am extreme, that is my style.
Legal immigration is too prohibitive, poorly managed, and keeps the good guys out while the bad guys come anyway. Where have I heard that before? Thats right, it happens with just about any domestic policy implemented by our government.
Yeah I do know some nice folks from Mexico, besides my ex marine buddy. Married with two kids, both working homeowners living the American dream, etc. They are going through issues with the husbands residency status and all that fun stuff even though hes been here legally for years, is an honorable man, has never committed a crime, and is an American as far as I'm concerned. Has an MCSE as far as I know (last we talked IT stuff for hours at a 2005 employee Christmas party he was just studying for the last few exams, yes I said Christmas and I'm atheist, what of it? hehe) and knows his stuff as well as anyone here. I don't even think he can speak spanish all that well anymore. Why the hell does he have to get pissed on and fined thousands of dollars and threatened with deportation and all that ****** while some drunk illegal tattooed gang banging f**khead is driving drunk in the streets in his 8000 lb drug/welfare money bought Escalade damaging peoples property via hit and run without consequence? Total F'ing BS. Everyone favors the bad guy, thats the way of America these days.
A fence is a joke and nothing more than a empty political gesture. Like it wouldn't be vandalized and bypassed 5 minutes after putting it up for the low government price of $1 million per foot for two strands of barbed wire separated by 4 feet of space.
And I don't know anything about those guys you mentioned or what their stances are, everything that I have had to say regarding illegal immigration are my own opinions and observations stemming from the consequences of living in Tucson, Arizona for 28 years and watching the place transform drastically in the last 10-15 years.
Am I a bit extreme and uncensored? Maybe. But it's about time somebody gets extreme and stops walking on egg shells. I'm tired of worrying about peoples delicate sensitivities.
Reminds me of this 70's movie I watched on Spike TV. Some Mexican's cousin was getting married, and he had a friend call the INS on his family so he could get a free trip back to Mexico to celebrate the wedding.
I am not against immigration. But more so on what it has done currently. America was founded by immigration and boomed as a great place. The reason why? Because everybody was hardworking and committed to the American dream. Now with a SH1Tload America has to offer Low Income Health care, Developing Housing, Welfare, Food Stamps, etc. it is basically abuse.
Living in government housing with my mom, we are here to strive and succeed. My mom was able to learn good enough english to get a data processing job at a mutual fund company. Now for me I'm suppose to finish HS and go to college. Thats what all the low income benefits and development housing is created for. Where I live it is about 65-75% Asian populated and pretty more than half of the people living are grandparents/ parents with kids that moved on or the family moved on.
Because we have a lot of immigrants, not everyone carries the same intentions. People/ Immigrants that don't pay back their debts and develop, will cost the America. What good is it if one contributed 20k of work, while they get 50k in benefits?
America was founded and pioneered by immigrants. We can all see that immigration works. But not when its costing us and not them.
We are unstable because overpopulated immigrants cannot help us grow. We need to be stable (like an European country for example) and bring in immigration TO grow.
I am not against immigration. But more so on what it has done currently. America was founded by immigration and boomed as a great place. The reason why? Because everybody was hardworking and committed to the American dream. Now with a SH1Tload America has to offer Low Income Health care, Developing Housing, Welfare, Food Stamps, etc. it is basically abuse.
Living in government housing with my mom, we are here to strive and succeed. My mom was able to learn good enough english to get a data processing job at a mutual fund company. Now for me I'm suppose to finish HS and go to college. Thats what all the low income benefits and development housing is created for. Where I live it is about 65-75% Asian populated and pretty more than half of the people living are grandparents/ parents with kids that moved on or the family moved on.
Because we have a lot of immigrants, not everyone carries the same intentions. People/ Immigrants that don't pay back their debts and develop, will cost the America. What good is it if one contributed 20k of work, while they get 50k in benefits?
America was founded and pioneered by immigrants. We can all see that immigration works. But not when its costing us and not them.
We are unstable because overpopulated immigrants cannot help us grow. We need to be stable (like an European country for example) and bring in immigration TO grow.
tomywishbone
Golden Member
Dude... "Up in Smoke." Great movie!
Well some good news the people in Oklahoma have had enough if the illegal immigration in their state;
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) ? Legislation described as the nation?s most sweeping attempt to deny jobs and public benefits to illegal immigrants was sent to Gov. Brad Henry?s desk Tuesday.
The bad news the Governor in Oklahoma has not signed it yet and Latino organizations are threatening litigation over it.
I just hope the governor of Oklahoma does sign it and they enforce it and all the other states follow suit ASAP and no judge stoops so low as to overturn it in favor of illegal immigrants.
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) ? Legislation described as the nation?s most sweeping attempt to deny jobs and public benefits to illegal immigrants was sent to Gov. Brad Henry?s desk Tuesday.
The bad news the Governor in Oklahoma has not signed it yet and Latino organizations are threatening litigation over it.
I just hope the governor of Oklahoma does sign it and they enforce it and all the other states follow suit ASAP and no judge stoops so low as to overturn it in favor of illegal immigrants.
exdeath
Lifer
Unrestricted and unregulated immigration is damaging Europe too. Look how muslims are changing the political and socioeconomic landscape in France, Spain, Britain, etc. And they wont do anything because they don't want to offend anybody.
They are guests in a foreign country, but they are demanding that the toilets face a certain way to comply with their religion (I wonder if it conflicted with someone else's, then what)? That's like me going to a country without running water and throwing a tantrum to demand that they install premium Italian porcelain throne especially for me to park my lazy American ass on.
CitizenKain
Diamond Member
I'd go after the families of you people like you in a situation like this.
GeezerMan
Platinum Member
I'm in agreement with these articles.
What are the jobs Americans won't do?
Arrival of aliens ousts U.S. workers
There's a reason they call the labor market a market.
What are the jobs Americans won't do?
Arrival of aliens ousts U.S. workers
There's a reason they call the labor market a market.
exdeath
Lifer
I don't have a family, and I'd be waiting for people like you to try. And I assure you that you would be at a suicidal disadvantage.
But if you were talking about the free speech remark... yeah I probably went overboard with that. Violating the American principle of free speech and assembly to protect American principles from those groups is a bit of a oxymoron isn't it.
But not really, because we accept violation of constitutional rights as necessity for the fair punishment of criminals, when we lock them up against their will, for example. Treason and sedition are some fairly lofty charges.
CitizenKain
Diamond Member
Wait, I thought you'd shooting unarmed people at a university first? You've got a lot of innocent blood to spill, so you can't be hanging out at home.
exdeath
Lifer
Who said anything about staying home? Many people wouldn't have a home or even a concept of home in that situation, just surviving and winning.
Anyway there is obviously some misunderstanding here. My comments reflected a virtual scenario of civil war, liberal vs. conservative, politics have failed, total chaos, etc. Not an environment where there would be innocent students sitting at their desks being gunned down like VT.
Besides I'd be specifically targeting the leaders and icons of the opposing faction, the objective of any war, which ever the side you are on, so that they would not be an underground influence after everything is over and back to normal. For me, that means self proclaimed college professors that propose the downfall of America and are proud communists, and spread their filth in educational institutions, people like that.
Most people on both sides would live on and likely, as with any civil war, the losing side would become the minority again, another 150 years goes by with a 80/20 distribution of politics, until the majority loses focus and becomes content while the minority gains in strength, it becomes 50/50 again, time flows like a river and history repeats, etc.
On a side note, if it was a war mutually participated in, nobody is innocent. Some people feel though that only the loser is the innocent one and the winner is a savage, regardless of whatever way it goes. I don't get that. Unless there are third parties (such as Iraqis just walking to work being killed in a fight between US troops and Iranian terrorists on Iraqi soil), there is either friend or foe, there is no innocent.
On that same note, if a bunch of communists or muslims came to take over my country and kick me out, I would fight them. "I don't have a gun you cant do anything because I am innocent, but I can still forward my cause and non violently take your country and values from you and you can't do a thing about it". This is actually happening today with illegal immigration, whereby the legal decedents of illegal foreign invaders born on US soil gain the power to vote in numbers over time and take our own political system from us to use for their own ends, but nobody wants to do anything because they aren't coming across with guns and they don't LOOK like a threat. No. When it's one side or the other, and you are taking sides, being unarmed does not make you innocent, you are still participating in the conflict by taking sides. You're still on the other side and your values threatening my values; that is what cause wars. I have my values and will stand for them, likewise you have yours and would do the same.
You said you would kill my family, if I had one, a natural reaction because you see me and anyone like me as 'the other side' and the cause for everything gone wrong. But what if they are unarmed, does that make them innocent and make you change your mind? I wouldn't think so. To you they are simply the enemy with values that threaten your own, armed or unarmed makes no difference.
A lot of nerve accusing me of spilling innocent blood in this scenario when you would be going after my family, who could also be 'innocent' and unarmed and not participating in the armed portion of the conflict 😉 But they would still constitute the enemy and 'whats wrong with American' if that was your view. You would kill my family even if they were unarmed, because they would spawn descendants like me. My views would live on and threaten you views centuries after this conflict is long forgotten, and it is vital for you to kill innocents to prevent that from happening again... is that not what I would be doing by targeting institutions of my choice then in the post that started this? You are as guilty as you have charged me. Perspective is a wonderful thing.
Yeah, war is that simple, and that ugly. It's merely the oldest method of conflict resolution when the sides are split 50/50 and deadlocked and the only way either sides values can be supported or swayed in their favor is by eliminating the competition once it reaches a point where nobody can compromise or take turns and both sides are stalemated. That often involves killing unarmed, but not necessarily innocent, people on the other side who obstruct you from having your own way and who threaten your victory in the long term by merely existing. The dark side of human nature and the price we pay for being diverse and having different opinions.
I meant this to be an unbiased lesson on why these types of conflicts occur in the world, and why both mine and your actions would be justified for our own reasons. I hope it reads that way.
If you understand why you would want to target myself or my relatives or potential family members, you understand why I said what I originally said in the first post you replied to. All's fair.
exdeath
Lifer
To quote and expand on my last post and bring this back to something on topic:
If any faction diametrically opposed to the established methods of my country came to take over my country and kick me out, I would fight them. "I don't have a gun you cant do anything because I am innocent and protected by your own laws from retaliation, but I can still forward my cause and non violently take your country and values from you and you can't do a thing about it".
This is actually happening today with illegal immigration, whereby the legal decedents of illegal foreign invaders born on US soil gain the automatic powers of citizens. But they do not necessarily have the same interests as the indigenous citizens that make up that nation. They gain the power to vote in numbers over time and become capable of taking our own political system from us to use for their own ends. I don't care so much about illegals who are crossing NOW, I worry about the seeds they are planting once they are here.
Do you think descendants of illegal aliens are going to vote to protect my rights and property or do you think they will vote for socialist polices that favor 'poor immigrants' like themselves by stealing from me? Are they going to vote to protect the interests of the United States and it's traditional capitalist ways or are they going to for the the interests of Mexico?
And nobody wants to do anything because they aren't coming across with guns and they don't LOOK like a threat. It's a silent threat hidden the the trojan horse of political correctness. By the time anyone sees the threat, it's going to be too late, and next thing you know they elect their own into offices and we have a president like Hugo Chavez announcing that hes taking by force and nationalizing this or that (ie: Hillary). Do you think the politicians they chose are going to stand up for my rights as an American or their rights as a <wildcard> ?
I propose that allowing the offspring of non citizens to become automatic citizens by birth is a serious threat to the national security of the United States that allows for a very serious and creative exploitable flaw of our system in order to infiltrate and influence our nation.
Why do you think foreigners living in Mexico are not allowed to vote or participate in Mexican politics? Because they will try to meddle and sway the political landscape to be like the United States to suit themselves, ignorant of the fact that they are in Mexico and that Mexicans want to decide what is best for Mexico and Mexicans, not Americans. DUH?
When are we going to realize that we need to do the same?
Is the problem any more clear yet?
If any faction diametrically opposed to the established methods of my country came to take over my country and kick me out, I would fight them. "I don't have a gun you cant do anything because I am innocent and protected by your own laws from retaliation, but I can still forward my cause and non violently take your country and values from you and you can't do a thing about it".
This is actually happening today with illegal immigration, whereby the legal decedents of illegal foreign invaders born on US soil gain the automatic powers of citizens. But they do not necessarily have the same interests as the indigenous citizens that make up that nation. They gain the power to vote in numbers over time and become capable of taking our own political system from us to use for their own ends. I don't care so much about illegals who are crossing NOW, I worry about the seeds they are planting once they are here.
Do you think descendants of illegal aliens are going to vote to protect my rights and property or do you think they will vote for socialist polices that favor 'poor immigrants' like themselves by stealing from me? Are they going to vote to protect the interests of the United States and it's traditional capitalist ways or are they going to for the the interests of Mexico?
And nobody wants to do anything because they aren't coming across with guns and they don't LOOK like a threat. It's a silent threat hidden the the trojan horse of political correctness. By the time anyone sees the threat, it's going to be too late, and next thing you know they elect their own into offices and we have a president like Hugo Chavez announcing that hes taking by force and nationalizing this or that (ie: Hillary). Do you think the politicians they chose are going to stand up for my rights as an American or their rights as a <wildcard> ?
I propose that allowing the offspring of non citizens to become automatic citizens by birth is a serious threat to the national security of the United States that allows for a very serious and creative exploitable flaw of our system in order to infiltrate and influence our nation.
Why do you think foreigners living in Mexico are not allowed to vote or participate in Mexican politics? Because they will try to meddle and sway the political landscape to be like the United States to suit themselves, ignorant of the fact that they are in Mexico and that Mexicans want to decide what is best for Mexico and Mexicans, not Americans. DUH?
When are we going to realize that we need to do the same?
Is the problem any more clear yet?
GeezerMan
Platinum Member
I keep seeing this on the web. Anyone know if these are all true? I know at least some are true.
Immigrant laws of Mexico:
1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the
schools, no special ballots for elections, and all government business will be conducted in our language.
2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.
3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.
4. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No
welfare, no food stamps, no health care, nor any other
government assistance programs.
5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are not allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
7. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no wavinga foreign flag, no political organizing, no ?bad-mouthing? our president or his policies. If you do you will be sent home.
8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be sent straight to jail.
Immigrant laws of Mexico:
1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the
schools, no special ballots for elections, and all government business will be conducted in our language.
2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.
3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.
4. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No
welfare, no food stamps, no health care, nor any other
government assistance programs.
5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are not allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
7. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no wavinga foreign flag, no political organizing, no ?bad-mouthing? our president or his policies. If you do you will be sent home.
8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be sent straight to jail.
exdeath
Lifer
From what I understand yes, and rightfully so. And this, and my post above yours, is why:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed93.html
When are we going to wake up and do the same thing for the same reasons?
everyone buy stock in corn and flour industries now!!!!!
If naturalization is given and now there is a large population of Mexican-Americans, for example, in a region, you cant deny their influence. Sorry, you are going to have lots of influence, whether is more Spanish tongue, more 2+ kid families, more gritos, more awareness of issues from this part of another country/region/sector, etc. Illegal immigration or not.
BUT, why is that automatically a bad thing?
edit: typos to look less nab.
exdeath
Lifer
It's a bad thing because the lines that define a country's unique 'borders language and culture' dissolve otherwise, and you don't have a unique defined country.
The rules that Mexico has in place regarding immigration ensure that Mexico will always be Mexico and that Mexicans will always have a place of their own to go. Americans can't go down there and sway the politics to change Mexico to be more like America. Muslims can't go to Mexico to transform Mexico into Mecca. Mexico will always be Mexico because it is own and operated by Mexicans. Very simple.
I like that. I would like Mexico to always be there and always be the same when I go there, because, well, it's Mexico. It's unique in ways that only Mexico can be, as long as it stays Mexico.
I would like the same for my country as well. As it stands, unlike Mexico's policy, it's too easy for any faction to come over here and exploit our immigration policies to change the definition of America to suit their own ends. That we share a land border with Mexico that allows such large numbers of immigrants makes the problem unique to Central and South American immigration unlike any other group.
We can have a melting pot and be diverse and multi cultural, but America doesn't have to be transformed into Mexico, or Cuba, or Venezuela via manipulation of the political and socioeconomic landscape for that to be the case.
Whether I have Italians or Mexicans living next to me, this is still America, not Mexico, not Italy. Not Cuba. Not Britain. I would like to keep it that way. Because I can go to Mexico, Italy, Cuba, Britain, any time I want. But if the America I know dissolves away, there is no place like it that I can go to.
See now we are getting somewhere. You are entitled to this vision, just as anyone is entitled to give one.
Just remember that there are just as many out there that want control/order of the influx of people, but are open to allowing OUR great resources to benefit others born outside of an imaginary line because people aren't given a choice of what nationality vagina to come out of, "bad culture" and all are welcomed.
I really don't know where that paranoia is coming from...it seems extreme.
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