Illegal immigration a disaster for the United States.

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath
Sex, weed, bud light, welfare, big screens, and Escalades with 26's. Love that Mexican culture...

I..just...I just...wow.

Oh sorry, thats the 'illegal Mexicans in the USA' culture, it's not real Mexican culture, which I will go to Mexico to experience.

The Mexicans in Mexico not 2 blocks south of the border are 180 deg completely different from the ones that are infesting the USA.

wow, anger.

Do you not understand a word I said? Try laying off the paxil maybe? Or put your delicate sensitivities aside for a moment and see all sides of the issue.

I'll say it more clearly: not all immigrants from Mexico are cherries and roses.

Sorry, didn't think you would get so mad by me pointing out that you have a lot of anger. Continue, don't mind me.

Damn right I'm angry that my country is being taken over by a predominantly socialist culture that promote the interests of Mexico in favor of the interest of the United States, unlike any other culture that has immigrated here before.

Damn right I'm angry that my taxes go up to support a pregnant teen immigrant from Mexico driving a more expensive car than I am.

Damn right I'm sick of my insurance premiums going up because of low enrollment because the Hispanic workers can hack their paperwork to get free ACCCHS state health care simply for being Hispanic because they don't want to spend $60 a month out of their $10 /hr paychecks.

Damn right I'm getting sick of avoiding auto collisions and being run off the road by drunk illegal immigrants.

Damn right I'm getting tired of having to press 2 for English in my own country. Why does 'multiculture' always mean Spanish? Where are the options for Chinese, Thai, Russian, Sweedish, Japanese, etc? I speak Japanese, where is my option to pay my bills in Japanese, why is it only Spanish or English?

There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

A lot of people are angry, for good reasons, hence this is even an issue in the first place. My guess is most people won't come out and say what they need to say because of political correctness and fear of being unfairly and incorrectly branded a racist simply because the geographic source of the problem happens to be 'other than white'.

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

Well I'd be angry too, if I were you.

Angry at my parents and teachers for not training me to think for myself, instead of believing ultra right wing racist xenophobic garbage like you are spewing all over the forum.

Good Lord!

So right wing propaganda is bad, but the leftist liberal propaganda garbage being spewed out in public schools is ok?

Oh the education system tried to brainwash me with their multicultural sensitivity garbage. But it didn't work because I didn't get put on Ritalin and I have a strong sense of individuality.

I judge people based on their behavior, not their skin color. I call things as I see them, I don't make assumptions based on what other people tell me and insist it must be true because they told me, like you do.

Why don't you address anything I've brought up instead of ignoring the post and writing me off as an angry intolerant racist, since immigration, specifically from Mexico, is obviously a hot topic for good reasons. I'm not the only one who feels this way, shocking as it may be to you. I'm just more vocal and ruthless in my analysis than most people.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Damn right I'm sick of property values plummeting because 4 generations of an illegal immigrant family live in a single family residence and turning this once decent city into a Mexican barrio.



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Hey genius, Tucson was a Mexican City long before it became part of the U.S.

Mexican people were legal residents here long before your grandfather was born.

Ever consider the effect of angry ******-kicking crackers like you on your neighborhood property values?

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: exdeath

Damn right I'm sick of property values plummeting because 4 generations of an illegal immigrant family live in a single family residence and turning this once decent city into a Mexican barrio.



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Hey genius, Tucson was a Mexican City long before it became part of the U.S.

Mexican people were legal residents here long before your grandfather was born.

Ever consider the effect of angry ******-kicking crackers like you on your neighborhood property values?

Hey genius, we took it fair and square after they declared war on us first after Texas seceded on their own (wonder why they didn't want to be part of Mexico hmm?) Not only that but after we kicked their ass fair and square, we STILL offered fair monetary compensation in a deal that was agreed to by both sides.

There has always been a large hispanic population here, DUH. That doesn't explain why the issues most associated with illegal immigration and the hispanic population explosions occurred suddenly NOW AND TODAY if they have already been here for 100+ years now does it?

My property values go up because I refuse to buy property in the ghetto, and I keep my yard clean, don't paint my house purple and let the stucco fall off, and I don't keep 15 cars up on blocks in my drive way and hang my laundry out on the fence. I also don't have 15 kids that run amok without supervision that vandalize the neighborhood and think they are cool because they've been to 'juvy'

Anybody live in Tucson? Compare and contrast Oro Valley with South Tucson.

FYI I don't like racist Rednecks any more than I do gang banging drug dealing Escalade driving Hispanics.

 

[utfrodo54]

Originally posted by: exdeath
There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

No, I live in Austin, I go down to Mexico all the time, fun times in the border towns. Unfortunately, some hungry kid always sticks out the empty cup at you and its very humbling (and a buzz killer).

If it makes you feel any better I was naturalized the legal way and it only took 18 years! Interesting opinions from you, nevertheless.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath
There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

No, I live in Austin, I go down to Mexico all the time, fun times in the border towns. Unfortunately, some hungry kid always sticks out the empty cup at you and its very humbling (and a buzz killer).

If it makes you feel any better I was naturalized the legal way and it only took 18 years! Interesting opinions from you, nevertheless.

And you don't agree that the people in Mexico are more representative of true Mexican culture and are much more pleasant people compared to the those that enter and live in the United States illegally and without fear of law and consequence?

Seriously, I have nothing against Mexico or Mexican culture.... as long as it stays in Mexico where I can observe it in it's true form. But I live in American and I want to keep American values, not Mexican values. Actually thats not true, I do enjoy many of the positive values of Mexican culture such as family unity and hospitality, the food, the music. But leave the negative stuff like drug dealing, gang banging, and self gratification and entitlement at the expense of others in the barrios of Mexico. We have enough of that of our own.

A melting pot cannot exist if elements in the pot don't melt. Refusing to follow our laws or learning english, unlike any other immigrant group in US history, constitutes not melting into the pot.

Point out cases of American citizens rallying and marching in Mexico for American Constitutional rights and amnesty and waving American flags on Mexican soil; Show me Americans citizens suing the Mexican government for requiring auto insurance; and I will be just as vocal and angry about it.

When in Rome do as the Romans do. South of the border is Mexico, not America, and I respect that. North of the border is America, not Mexico. All I ask is for that to be respected in return.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: sierrita
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Well I'd be angry too, if I were you.

Angry at my parents and teachers for not training me to think for myself, instead of believing ultra right wing racist xenophobic garbage like you are spewing all over the forum.

Good Lord!

You should be just as angry at parents and teachers for training so many to not think for themselves, instead make them so delusional that they believe the USA has the ability and obligation to absorb the worlds third world?s poor population with no ill effects in doing so.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: exdeath
There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

I live down on the border and I hate to break it to you but you can not go to Mexico and protest, it is against the law there so is waving the American flag.

In fact if you even go apply and get Mexican citizenship you can not protest, only natural born Mexicans are alowed to protest in Mexico.

 

[BoomerD]

The mexicans protesting American immigration policies should be grateful that we don't have the same immigration laws/policies that Mexico has/uses on it's illegal immigrants...

MAYBE we should...

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: exdeath
There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

I live down on the border and I hate to break it to you but you can not go to Mexico and protest, it is against the law there so is waving the American flag.

In fact if you even go apply and get Mexican citizenship you can not protest, only natural born Mexicans are alowed to protest in Mexico.

Exactly my point. So why do we allow it here? Mexico encourages waving Mexican flags in the United States, but waving an American flag in Mexico is illegal?

Does anybody not see why this is a problem?

One of the biggest problems in the immigration debate is the hypocrisy and lack of reciprocation from Mexico on the policies it feels it can make for the US.

It's ok to wave Mexican flags in the US, but not American flags in Mexico.

If we arrest or imprison a mexican for not having auto insurance, its a violation of that persons rights and there is a political uproar in mexico.

But if in American gets caught driving around in Mexico without in insurance, they could be thrown in jail for years without a trial, depending on who catches you, and if the US government gets involved, all we here is 'tough ******'. Since when are the balls of the US president in the hands of the Mexican president?

Mexico demands that we cooperate with prosecuting Americans that commit crimes in Mexico, but is not cooperative with their own citizens committing crimes here in America and sneak across back to Mexico to evade consequences.

What we do to keep illegals from crossing our border is unjust an inhumane, but it's ok if Mexico does the same thing to keep illegals out of their southern border.

Uhm... yeah.

Hopefully with more and more Americans becoming fed up with rampant and unregulated Mexican immigration, and the little I've heard from the newly elected Mexican president, the situation will improve itself without resulting in another Mexican-American war.

Last I heard the new Mexican president wants to implement new social and economic policies to allow Mexico to prosper to create a source of pride for Mexican citizens and keep them from flooding over the border. This is the way the problem should be solved IMO.

In addition to eliminating and revamping our social welfare systems to keep illegal immigrants and able bodied white trash alike from getting a free ride, it could go a long way to solving both the illegal immigration problem and some of our own problems.

Two birds with one stone, how about that.

 

[BoomerD]

http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=MEXICO-04-24-06

http://www.vdare.com/fulford/double_standard.htm

More on the illegal baby boom:
http://snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

And on the flip-side of immigration laws:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed93.html

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=MEXICO-04-24-06

http://www.vdare.com/fulford/double_standard.htm

More on the illegal baby boom:
http://snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

And on the flip-side of immigration laws:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed93.html

From the last link:

Further, I think the law entirely reasonable ? provided that you realize that the Mexican government exists for the benefit of Mexicans, not gringos.

Politics? No, you may not engage in politics. I am not sure why Americans think they should be permitted to, but I know why Mexicans think that they should not. In the Yankee enclaves, they would take over and run things as they wanted, not as Mexicans want.

The Mexican approach is, ?You are free to live here, but we will make our own laws, thank you.? Which makes perfect sense to me.

LOL

Awesome reads, thanks.

The last article is especially refreshing, to see that someone living in Mexico feels the same way about Mexico I as do about America living in America:

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"

I'll be happy when we start doing the same thing here and Mexico and Mexicans are perfectly agreeable about it.

If only I could legally own firearms in Mexico, that last article would make it a tempting place to live.

"Mind your own business, live your own life, support yourself, don't cause problems for anybody else, and remember that this is our country not yours, otherwise we don't care" seems to be the philosophy. Excellent.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I do find it interesting however that numerous statistics in that posting equate criminal illegal immigrants with hispanics in general. What were we saying about racism again? hahahaha.

Most of the illegals in this country aren't from Sweden smart guy.

Strange that someone would so nakedly show their lack of reading comprehension, and then follow up with saying "smart guy".

The point was that the authors of those "statistics" took numbers for hispanics, and turned them into statistics for illegal immigrants. This means that they are encouraging (either consciously or unconsciously) a view of hispanic people in general as crime causing illegal immigrants... which is false. To attribute negative stereotypes to an ethnic group without cause is racist.

Simple enough for you, smart guy?

Read your sentence again.

Yes they can equate criminal illegal immigrants with hispanics in general because in general, most criminal illegal immigrants are hispanics. I would like to know what the percentage of first generation hispanic immigrants in this country came here illegally. Are they the minority or the majority? Pretty easy to answer that. Is there another ethnic group with this problem? No.

People have a tendency to form stereotypes when they repeatedly encounter the same things, I would guess that's why the majority of legal hispanics immigrants wants strict immigration enforcement.

The vast majority of Hispanics in this country are here legally. In fact, many Hispanics in this country were here probably long before your family arrived. Furthermore, your analogy is silly and flawed. You can equate humans with Hispanics in general because most illegal immigrants are humans. Thus, down with humans!!!

I don't understand how you can act as if it is a Hispanic only problem. At least 10% of Asians are here illegally (according to Census Data and Pew Research). The rates of Hispanics here illegally is higher -- 28-30%, but that's a given. Asians can't walk across water to get here. It is pretty darn easy to cross a border by land. If Southeast Asia bordered the United States by land, then I see no reason that the numbers wouldn't be similar. I think it is probably 3 times as hard to make it from Asia to the US illegally than it is if you are Hispanic (and much closer geographically, and easier physically).

It is entirely a meaningless argument. The reason there are not more poor Asians or Europeans here is because they are farther away, and it is much more difficult for a poor person to enter by Air or Sea than it is by an unprotected land border -- especially when we are talking great distances compared to much much much smaller distances. It is a red herring and a piss poor argument.

Illegal Immigration is not about Mexicans or Hispanics. It is about poor people. Rich people don't have a problem immigrating.

No, the vast majority of FIRST GENERATION hispanics are not here legally. Most of the hispanics who have come here in the last 20 years are here ILLEGALLY.

Unauthorized migrants accounted for 30% of the foreign-born population in 2005.
Another 28% were legal permanent residents, and 31% were U.S. citizens by
naturalization.
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Most of those naturalized 31% were not hispanics.

As for Asians, whether here legally or illegally don't cause the burden on society that poor uneducated hispanics do. They learn english and contribute to society. Also, Asians don't have this problem:

Among youth ages 16 to 24, Hispanics accounted for 40 percent of all high school dropouts in 2004. However, they only made up 17 percent of the total youth population.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbar...whispanic.org/files/reports/61.pdf</a>">Text</a>

The 2000 status dropout rate for Hispanics born outside the United States (44 percent) is higher than the rate for first-generation Hispanic youth (15 percent)

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Entirely 100% wrong. The vast majority of First Generation Hispanics were here before your family even was. Ever heard of the Mexican-American War and the concessions Santa Ana made to the US? He ceded larges parts of terrority filled with -- you guessed it -- Hispanics.

First generation, as in they were not born here. I am using the correct term, you need to look it up.

 

[Socio]

This is pretty disturbing 3 min video it shows what is exactly going to happen because of our failure to control our borders;

Video

Quite the legacy we are leaving our children isn't?

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Socio
This is pretty disturbing 3 min video it shows what is exactly going to happen because of our failure to control our borders;

Video

It's a win-win situation either way in my book.

a) people wake up and we do something serious about it politically and legally. A fence is a lame ass political gesture to make the ignorant happy, just like banning black plastic and pistol grips on guns.

or

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

The hard part, with any political issue, is putting up with the road on the way there, either until stuff happens in politics to reverse the problem, or until the fight is so bad that everybody is involved and nobody can keep track of who's pulling what trigger anymore (i.e.: you can throw one person in jail and take his ranch away for fighting against an illegal invasion, but what do you do when 10+ million people stand up and say 'no more' hmm?)

If the people in this video want to be smug because there is 1 million of them and say it's impossible for the government to do anything about that number of people...

They won't be so smug when they realize that 10 million + armed and angry American citizens acting at all once in place of their own malfunctioning government in defense of their country can't be stopped either. 😀

Last time they lost land in a war they started, we compensated them monetarily for it. Maybe next time we can take even more of their precious Aztlan and not even pay them for it or agree to let them stay.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: exdeath

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

[/quote]



Ah, yes, folks, his true colors come out for all to see.

Racist xenophobe wants to start another war.

Remember, you saw it here.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: exdeath

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

Ah, yes, folks, his true colors come out for all to see.

Racist xenophobe wants to start another war.

Remember, you saw it here.


[/quote]

Excuse me, I'm not a member of Aztlan or LaRaza waving foreign flags on another country's soil claiming it as my own... I'm also not the one already firing weapons and taking pot shots at people on the other side of the border in their own country; shots are already being fired from the Mexican side of the border into US territory, what about that?

The race card is old and tired and has already been invalidated. Give it a rest. Focus on the facts and the statistics instead of emotional rhetoric. I don't care what color they are or what they are called. I wouldn't care if they were all the same race as my own, as long as you put pink dots behind their ears and then observe that our ERs are mysteriously overcrowded with people with an overwhelming majority of pink dots behind their ears. Race has nothing to do with it. However culture, and the fact that for obvious reasons, the historically socialist culture of central and south America is incompatible with the founding principles of the USA, does have a lot to do with it.

It's funny how you and others on your side of the issue can only cherry pick extreme points to paint the other side as bigots and racists to win support rather than actually address any of the real legitimate issues that are of concern.

Why is that?

Do you actually pay attention to or offer solutions to any of the real issues here, or do you just troll around in forums looking for any tidbit you can use to paint someone else in a false light to you own advantage?

People like you just want to make the other side out to be the bad guy so you can win, you have no interest in what the correct answer actually is or solving the problem. Same thing as political smear campaigns that completely evade the actual issue in favor of flinging mud at your opponent.

You know, sometimes I wish were WERE all one single super race, for the one purpose of being able to address real issues without people unconditionally pulling the race cards out of their asses.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: sierrita

Originally posted by: exdeath

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

Ah, yes, folks, his true colors come out for all to see.

Racist xenophobe wants to start another war.

Remember, you saw it here.


[/quote]

I've always understood why denying someone rights or privileges based on skin color is racist and wrong. But I still don't understand why granting those same people special privileges and immunities, based on their skin color also, is not only not racist, but encouraged? Displaying an American flag on Iraqi soil is racist and offensive, but displaying a Mexican flag on USA soil is perfectly acceptable?

It's the same damn thing in my book.

Black person complains about a brown person, the black person is a racist for complaining, no ifs ands or buts, and should be more tolerant and multi culturally aware.

Brown person complains about a black person, the black person is automatically a racist and guilty as charged, and is being unfair and did something to provoke the brown person who can never do wrong obviously.

The race card is a double standard at it's finest.

W T bloody F is up with that?

I bet if Mexicans like the ones in the video most recently posted were white, you would be crying bloody barbarianism and calling to close the borders. But because they are brown, that they are doing is perfectly acceptable and we have no right to complain. If thats how you feel, then you are in fact the racist here.

You're probably the same kind of person that thinks only poor people can defend their property, but rich people should sit back and let people take from them. :roll:

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath
Sex, weed, bud light, welfare, big screens, and Escalades with 26's. Love that Mexican culture...

I..just...I just...wow.

Oh sorry, thats the 'illegal Mexicans in the USA' culture, it's not real Mexican culture, which I will go to Mexico to experience.

The Mexicans in Mexico not 2 blocks south of the border are 180 deg completely different from the ones that are infesting the USA.

wow, anger.

Do you not understand a word I said? Try laying off the paxil maybe? Or put your delicate sensitivities aside for a moment and see all sides of the issue.

I'll say it more clearly: not all immigrants from Mexico are cherries and roses.

Sorry, didn't think you would get so mad by me pointing out that you have a lot of anger. Continue, don't mind me.

Damn right I'm angry that my country is being taken over by a predominantly socialist culture that promote the interests of Mexico in favor of the interest of the United States, unlike any other culture that has immigrated here before.

Damn right I'm angry that my taxes go up to support a pregnant teen immigrant from Mexico driving a more expensive car than I am.

Damn right I'm sick of my insurance premiums going up because of low enrollment because the Hispanic workers can hack their paperwork to get free ACCCHS state health care simply for being Hispanic because they don't want to spend $60 a month out of their $10 /hr paychecks.

Damn right I'm sick of property values plummeting because 4 generations of an illegal immigrant family live in a single family residence and turning this once decent city into a Mexican barrio.

Damn right I'm getting sick of avoiding auto collisions and being run off the road by drunk illegal immigrants.

Damn right I'm getting tired of having to press 2 for English in my own country. Why does 'multiculture' always mean Spanish? Where are the options for Chinese, Thai, Russian, Sweedish, Japanese, etc? I speak Japanese, where is my option to pay my bills in Japanese, why is it only Spanish or English?

There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

A lot of people are angry, for good reasons, hence this is even an issue in the first place. My guess is most people won't come out and say what they need to say because of political correctness and fear of being unfairly and incorrectly branded a racist simply because the geographic source of the problem happens to be 'other than white'.

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

:thumbsup: :beer: damn that gave me wood!

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: utfrodo54

Originally posted by: exdeath
Sex, weed, bud light, welfare, big screens, and Escalades with 26's. Love that Mexican culture...

I..just...I just...wow.

Oh sorry, thats the 'illegal Mexicans in the USA' culture, it's not real Mexican culture, which I will go to Mexico to experience.

The Mexicans in Mexico not 2 blocks south of the border are 180 deg completely different from the ones that are infesting the USA.

wow, anger.

Do you not understand a word I said? Try laying off the paxil maybe? Or put your delicate sensitivities aside for a moment and see all sides of the issue.

I'll say it more clearly: not all immigrants from Mexico are cherries and roses.

Sorry, didn't think you would get so mad by me pointing out that you have a lot of anger. Continue, don't mind me.

Damn right I'm angry that my country is being taken over by a predominantly socialist culture that promote the interests of Mexico in favor of the interest of the United States, unlike any other culture that has immigrated here before.

Damn right I'm angry that my taxes go up to support a pregnant teen immigrant from Mexico driving a more expensive car than I am.

Damn right I'm sick of my insurance premiums going up because of low enrollment because the Hispanic workers can hack their paperwork to get free ACCCHS state health care simply for being Hispanic because they don't want to spend $60 a month out of their $10 /hr paychecks.

Damn right I'm sick of property values plummeting because 4 generations of an illegal immigrant family live in a single family residence and turning this once decent city into a Mexican barrio.

Damn right I'm getting sick of avoiding auto collisions and being run off the road by drunk illegal immigrants.

Damn right I'm getting tired of having to press 2 for English in my own country. Why does 'multiculture' always mean Spanish? Where are the options for Chinese, Thai, Russian, Sweedish, Japanese, etc? I speak Japanese, where is my option to pay my bills in Japanese, why is it only Spanish or English?

There is a lot to be angry about. But you probably life in New York or Illinois and think you know the Mexican immigration issue better than everyone else right?

A lot of people are angry, for good reasons, hence this is even an issue in the first place. My guess is most people won't come out and say what they need to say because of political correctness and fear of being unfairly and incorrectly branded a racist simply because the geographic source of the problem happens to be 'other than white'.

Why don't you go down to Mexico with me and protest for American constitutional rights, and see what happens, hmm?

:thumbsup: :beer: damn that gave me wood!

Nice to see a few people coming out of the wood work and growing the balls to stand next to me. I know there are far more people out there that feel the way I do, but nobody wants to touch this hot issue with a 10 mile pole.

Why?

If you aren't racist, you aren't racist. Somebody calling you one isn't going to change that.

Just because you point out something that quacks and has feathers and call it a duck doesn't make you a racist, and it doesn't make a duck anything other than a duck. Stop with the guilt trip and stop walking on egg shells already.

I'd be just as vocal about white Christian missionaries trying to take over Mexico and alter their demographics and politics to their own ends, but I don't have to since there would already be hundreds of millions foaming at the mouth at the chance to jump up and point out THAT blatant disrespect of another country and culture, while ignoring this one.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: exdeath

They won't be so smug when they realize that 10 million + armed and angry American citizens acting at all once in place of their own malfunctioning government in defense of their country can't be stopped either. 😀

Last time they lost land in a war they started, we compensated them monetarily for it. Maybe next time we can take even more of their precious Aztlan and not even pay them for it or agree to let them stay.[/quote]

Ah yea, the last man standing concept. Nothing says nutjob like someone waiting for the chance to take to streets and start gunning people down.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: exdeath

They won't be so smug when they realize that 10 million + armed and angry American citizens acting at all once in place of their own malfunctioning government in defense of their country can't be stopped either. 😀

Last time they lost land in a war they started, we compensated them monetarily for it. Maybe next time we can take even more of their precious Aztlan and not even pay them for it or agree to let them stay.

Ah yea, the last man standing concept. Nothing says nutjob like someone waiting for the chance to take to streets and start gunning people down.[/quote]

Thats how it works isn't it? If politics can't find an answer, eventually the situation and tensions just degrade into a downward spiral toward a violent confrontation. That is human history and human nature, that is not my construction. Already there is violence at the border, most of that violence is from the Mexico side, coincidentally.

If a few people are pissed off now, continue doing nothing about it and give it 20 years and see how many people are pissed off.

I'm not particularly looking forward to it because I don't want to endure the long road that comes ahead of that scenario. But if there is a civil war going on outside on my street, I'm not saying I'm not going to pick sides, especially when fires start getting lit in MY yard.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Socio
This is pretty disturbing 3 min video it shows what is exactly going to happen because of our failure to control our borders;

Video

It's a win-win situation either way in my book.

a) people wake up and we do something serious about it politically and legally. A fence is a lame ass political gesture to make the ignorant happy, just like banning black plastic and pistol grips on guns.

or

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

or

c) We just end up giving up Cailifornia, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas to the Mexico controlled country of Atzlan and set new extreeme border control accordingly.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Socio
This is pretty disturbing 3 min video it shows what is exactly going to happen because of our failure to control our borders;

Video

It's a win-win situation either way in my book.

a) people wake up and we do something serious about it politically and legally. A fence is a lame ass political gesture to make the ignorant happy, just like banning black plastic and pistol grips on guns.

or

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

or

c) We just end up giving up Cailifornia, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas to the Mexico controlled country of Atzlan and set new extreeme border control accordingly.

While we are at it, give the rest of the states back to the Native Americans, and white Americans of European decent kill themselves or return to take Britain back from the Muslims.

Give all of Europe and North Africa back to Italy since it was originally part of the Roman empire, Give Russia and China back to the Mongols.

In fact, since Spain invaded Central America and created Mexicans in the first place, we should exterminate all non pure blood Central American natives and non native peoples of Spanish decent, popularly called Mexicans and Spanish, and return Central America back to the true pure blooded Aztecs that were there first.

Exterminate the Jews and return Israel back to the Arabs too. And eliminate countries like Iran and Iraq, they aren't legitimate either, they were arbitrarily drawn on the map by outsiders like Britain.

I know you are being sarcastic, but so am I. We can play the game of history as far back as anyone is willing to take it.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Socio
This is pretty disturbing 3 min video it shows what is exactly going to happen because of our failure to control our borders;

Video

It's a win-win situation either way in my book.

a) people wake up and we do something serious about it politically and legally. A fence is a lame ass political gesture to make the ignorant happy, just like banning black plastic and pistol grips on guns.

or

b) people don't wake up, and things escalate so bad we have another Mexican-American war, in which I will be happily joined by my English speaking self sufficient American-Mexican 4th of July celebrating immigrant buddies to keep OUR country AMERICA.

or

c) We just end up giving up Cailifornia, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas to the Mexico controlled country of Atzlan and set new extreeme border control accordingly.

While we are at it, give the rest of the states back to the Native Americans, and Americans of European decent kill themselves or take over Britain. Give all of Europe and North Africa back to Italy since it was originally part of the Roman empire, Give Russia and China back to the Mongols.

In fact, since Spain invaded Central America and created Mexicans in the first place, we should exterminate all non pure blood Central American natives, popularly called Mexicans, and return Central America back to the true pure blooded Aztecs that were there first.

Exterminate the Jews and return Israel back to the Arabs too. And eliminate countries like Iran and Iraq, they aren't legitimate either, they were arbitrarily drawn on the map by outsiders like Britain.


I know you are being sarcastic, but so am I. We can play the game of history as far back as anyone is willing to take it.

i love you, can i have your baby?

everything you have talked about is very valid and i agree with 100% of them. here are my bullet statements about illegals.

1. the drain they have put on the public school system.
2. Our judicial system is absoutly swamped with illegals
3. Our health care is a wreck, 70 hospitals in california have closed just from the illegals not pay thier bills.
4. Making Americans adopt the Mexican culture and language over our own.

 

[jpeyton]

They bring us tasty Mexican food!

That is reason enough to let them in.