I Don't Know If Joe Can Do It

[KMFJD]

impressive Joe

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295342940005572611

i wonder why...

 

[fskimospy]

impressive Joe

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295342940005572611

i wonder why...

Because Joe Biden understands the general election electorate better than Melissa Ryan does.

 

[Grey_Beard]

The Democrats are owned by corporate interests, so even if they're not as bad as Republicans, they are also not going to solve any of the country's problems.

This some dribble. No one is as bought and paid for like the Republicons. Yes Democrats get corporate donations, but in the age of Citizen’s United, you have to until the ruling is overturned. Even your Bernie boy would need corporate $$$ to make a Presidential run if nominated by the Democratic Party. It’s a fact of life. You say it like there is another option. There is not.

That said, I'm not sure I agree that the government is doomed. I think that inequality can continue to expand, and we will end up with a permanent underclass of people that live like feudal peasants. Little to no access to health care, education, or secure housing, vulnerable to starvation etc. There will continue to be a smaller professional class that live what we consider to be "middle class" lives today, and there will be the elites.

The best chance to save it is 12 to 16 years of Democratic rule. The economic utopia you state above will make government useless, unless you think a large % of people needing government assistance says it is not doomed. SCOTUS needs a revamp and the courts need to be restocked to help combat against what these four years have done.

We just witnessed the largest popular uprising in the history of this country beaten back by overwhelmingly powerful police and military forces in a matter of weeks.

This is another example of why people feel motivated to vote by margins never thought were possible. Turnout is being estimated in 150 million range. If that happens Republicons will lose the Senate and Presidency. They do not have the numbers to compete at that level.

 

[KMFJD]

Because Joe Biden understands the general election electorate better than Melissa Ryan does.

is that why he inspires so much confidence? no one wants a second trump term and it shows

 

[fskimospy]

is that why he inspires so much confidence? no one wants a second trump term and it shows

It could be why he's currently winning by the largest margin over an incumbent in the history of scientific polling. Thoughts on that?

 

[hal2kilo]

It could be why he's currently winning by the largest margin over an incumbent in the history of scientific polling. Thoughts on that?

Yea, Joe's doing a terrible job. Just look....

MSN

 

[dainthomas]

I don’t think it matters because the Republicans will doom us anyway. If Biden wins I’m sure he will try and steer us back but he will likely get at most two years of functioning government. At that point Republicans will probably retake at least one house of Congress and set to work sabotaging our country with the hope of retaking the presidency.

More importantly, Trump has proved that the president no longer needs to answer to Congress. Even if Biden doesn’t take full advantage of that someone in the future will.

My prediction is we will be a functional autocracy within the next 20 years. Congress will still be there, they just won’t do anything.

We're already at the point where the president can have an entirely acting cabinet, and take care of budgetary items by EO. Just need to get rid of the whole "confirming judges" thing and they'll be as relevant as the post-republic Roman senate.

 

[fskimospy]

We're already at the point where the president can have an entirely acting cabinet, and take care of budgetary items by EO. Just need to get rid of the whole "confirming judges" thing and they'll be as relevant as the post-republic Roman senate.

Yup. 'Emergency' re-purposing of funds is just the start, especially because the 'emergency' was a transparent lie. The scope of what constitutes an emergency will continue to increase until the president can do whatever he wants.

 

[Blackjack200]

impressive Joe

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295342940005572611

i wonder why...

Briahna Joy Gray understands this stuff very well. If you vote for a party that’s beholden to economic elites, you can’t really complain when they govern in the interest of those elites.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295434058189680640

 

[KMFJD]

It could be why he's currently winning by the largest margin over an incumbent in the history of scientific polling. Thoughts on that?

i love it, but like most people it's because we all cannot stand another trump term and not because we love Biden, i hope he's changed and is more progressive than he has been in the past, some people have the ability to change, i hope he is one of them.

 

[ondma]

We're already at the point where the president can have an entirely acting cabinet, and take care of budgetary items by EO. Just need to get rid of the whole "confirming judges" thing and they'll be as relevant as the post-republic Roman senate.

Yea, the candidate who vowed to not touch social security turned into the President who effectively abolished it by executive order by suspending the payroll tax and promising to do away with it if he is re-elected. Why dont the Repubs who are so concerned about their second amendment rights rise up in mass against this violation of congresses constitutional right to levy taxes? (edit: obviously a rhetorical question)

And why arent the Dems attacking this furiously?

 

[fskimospy]

i love it, but like most people it's because we all cannot stand another trump term and not because we love Biden, i hope he's changed and is more progressive than he has been in the past, some people have the ability to change, i hope he is one of them.

I do too! I do think people who talk about the enthusiasm gap miss that hatred of Trump is a powerful motivator. Maybe stronger than love of a candidate.

If we can push Biden in a more progressive direction I think that’s great and I really want him to put Warren in the cabinet somewhere. That being said if he wins and turns out to be a bland centrist I won’t love it but it will have ended the national emergency and that’s good enough for me.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This some dribble. No one is as bought and paid for like the Republicons. Yes Democrats get corporate donations, but in the age of Citizen’s United, you have to until the ruling is overturned. Even your Bernie boy would need corporate $$$ to make a Presidential run if nominated by the Democratic Party. It’s a fact of life. You say it like there is another option. There is not.



The best chance to save it is 12 to 16 years of Democratic rule. The economic utopia you state above will make government useless, unless you think a large % of people needing government assistance says it is not doomed. SCOTUS needs a revamp and the courts need to be restocked to help combat against what these four years have done.



This is another example of why people feel motivated to vote by margins never thought were possible. Turnout is being estimated in 150 million range. If that happens Republicons will lose the Senate and Presidency. They do not have the numbers to compete at that level.

Heard Bernie on a news show over the weekend. He was very practical & percise.
He said (not a direct quote):
We need to support the Candidate and all Democrats running so we can make changes. Goal should be capturing the Presidency and the Senate first then we can discuss moving the party to the progressive side or left side, I sort of forgot.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Democrats are owned by corporate interests, so even if they're not as bad as Republicans, they are also not going to solve any of the country's problems.

That said, I'm not sure I agree that the government is doomed. I think that inequality can continue to expand, and we will end up with a permanent underclass of people that live like feudal peasants. Little to no access to health care, education, or secure housing, vulnerable to starvation etc. There will continue to be a smaller professional class that live what we consider to be "middle class" lives today, and there will be the elites.

We just witnessed the largest popular uprising in the history of this country beaten back by overwhelmingly powerful police and military forces in a matter of weeks.

So, BLM is trying to overthrow the govt? I don't think so.

 

[blackangst1]

"If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong."

 

[fskimospy]

Heard Bernie on a news show over the weekend. He was very practical & percise.
He said (not a direct quote):
We need to support the Candidate and all Democrats running so we can make changes. Goal should be capturing the Presidency and the Senate first then we can discuss moving the party to the progressive side or left side, I sort of forgot.

Yes, Bernie isn’t stupid, he knows what is at stake. I’m sure he thought he would be a better president than Biden but now that it’s no longer possible that is irrelevant. Now the question is if Biden is better then Trump and there’s never been an easier question.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yes, Bernie isn’t stupid, he knows what is at stake. I’m sure he thought he would be a better president than Biden but now that it’s no longer possible that is irrelevant. Now the question is if Biden is better then Trump and there’s never been an easier question.

I don’t remember Bernie being so simple & clear in 2016.
Yeah he endorsed Hillary however I do not agree with the Bros that Bernie campaigned for Hillary harder than she did.
Simple clear words like above were needed.

 

[Blackjack200]

Heard Bernie on a news show over the weekend. He was very practical & percise.
He said (not a direct quote):
We need to support the Candidate and all Democrats running so we can make changes. Goal should be capturing the Presidency and the Senate first then we can discuss moving the party to the progressive side or left side, I sort of forgot.

I have a lot of respect for Sanders. I also have a lot of respect for Noam Chomsky and Angela Davis. In fact, I imagine I hold them in much higher regard than the people that have suddenly started giving them platforms for their opinions in the last four months. I'll leave it at that.

 

[fskimospy]

I don’t remember Bernie being so simple & clear in 2016.
Yeah he endorsed Hillary however I do not agree with the Bros that Bernie campaigned for Hillary harder than she did.
Simple clear words like above were needed.

I strongly agree.

He played games in 2016 probably because he, like everyone else, thought he could afford to because Clinton would win anyway. Too many people took it for granted.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'll leave it at that.

Good idea!!

 

[Grey_Beard]

I strongly agree.

He played games in 2016 probably because he, like everyone else, thought he could afford to because Clinton would win anyway. Too many people took it for granted.

He was part of the problem. He and the Bernie Bro’s were upset, rightfully so, about the treatment and the whole thing with the superdelegates. The problem was that this approach fractured and allowed disgruntled voter to opt out. They should have supported the nominee and then pushed the delegate issue after the election. The e-mail dump fed that too.

I think Bernie understands how his actions hurt Hillary, which is why he is much better this time around.

We are looking for reasons behind 2016 to explain why we are here and are fearful this will repeat. So many things happened to make the outcome sway. To think about, the compounding of issues only resulted in a total of a 70,000 vote margin over three States. I am not saying miracles don’t happen but let us think about this. In the 1980 Olympics, if the Russians play the US 100 times, we win, at most, three times. One just happened to be the game that counted. I look at 2016 the same way. Yes it happened, but doubt it can again.

 

[Jhhnn]

2016 is water under the bridge, gentlemen. What have we learned? That anybody who didn't vote for Clinton made a stunningly yuge mistake. Simple. Reasons vary but none of them were valid given the way it's worked out. Biden will do just fine. At least he's not criminally insane, right?

 

[JEDIYoda]

2016 is water under the bridge, gentlemen. What have we learned? That anybody who didn't vote for Clinton made a stunningly yuge mistake. Simple. Reasons vary but none of them were valid given the way it's worked out. Biden will do just fine. At least he's not criminally insane, right?

Nominated for post of the year!!!!!
The selection comittee is composed of 3 people -- me, myself and I!!!

 

[Muse]

2016 is water under the bridge, gentlemen. What have we learned? That anybody who didn't vote for Clinton made a stunningly yuge mistake. Simple. Reasons vary but none of them were valid given the way it's worked out. Biden will do just fine. At least he's not criminally insane, right?

After Trump, Biden will be like a breath of fresh air in a flower garden after being in the shitter for 4 years.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Trump isn't going to win. The AIP didn't even opt him on their ballot like they did in 2016.

Trump is the nominee of George Wallace's American Independent Party in California

When voters go to the polls Tuesday in the heavily Democratic state of California, they will see three words next to the name of Donald J. Trump: "Republican, American Independent."

www.cnn.com

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"We are the demographic Trump is appealing to": Whether the establishment likes it or not, white nationalists still power the Trump train - Salon.com

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The AIP not supporting Trump is pretty much a guarantee that Trump isn't going to win.

Being generous at most, I think Trump will have 50% of his 2016 pop vote. Most of the votes will probably go to Jo Jorgensen.
Female, white, and not related to HRC.

I am sadden but being generous at most 30% of democrats of who voted for HRC will probably vote for Howie Hawkins.

However, I think the appeal of two other candidates will grow after Repub/Democ hype dies off. LP for weak government with international ties, and GPUS for strong government with international ties.