Howard Stern knocked off the radio today on all Clear Channel owned markets!

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
What some people don't realize is that it's the PUBLIC airwaves, and yes, your three year old kid can tune in and hear some stuff no three year old should hear. People should not have to limit their children's exposure to the radio. Nobody cares what you listen to on satellite because it's not PUBLIC airwaves.
It's not anyone imposing their values on you, it's exactly the opposite in my view. It's these kind of hosts imposing their LACK of values onto the public airwaves. There's a reason why there's cable TV, do we need "cable" radio too?
I'm not specifically talking about Howard, I listen to the show sometimes. But I see where people are coming from in being upset.

Sorry, that rant holds no water in my book. What's the difference if the child tunes in to your Satellite radio and hears the same thing? Are you going to blame the non-public airwaves because you can't control your 3 year old? People DO have to limit their childrens exposure to all things, not just radio and tv. It's called being a parent, and not trying to pass the blame on their poor parenting on their children having listened to or have seen something 'offensive'.

 

[conjur]

If we, the public, could only demand that Clear Channel cease as a company.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur
If we, the public, could only demand that Clear Channel cease as a company.

everything is moving towards conglomeratization, why stop the radio industry?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ThePresence
What some people don't realize is that it's the PUBLIC airwaves, and yes, your three year old kid can tune in and hear some stuff no three year old should hear. People should not have to limit their children's exposure to the radio. Nobody cares what you listen to on satellite because it's not PUBLIC airwaves.
It's not anyone imposing their values on you, it's exactly the opposite in my view. It's these kind of hosts imposing their LACK of values onto the public airwaves. There's a reason why there's cable TV, do we need "cable" radio too?
I'm not specifically talking about Howard, I listen to the show sometimes. But I see where people are coming from in being upset.

Sorry, that rant holds no water in my book. What's the difference if the child tunes in to your Satellite radio and hears the same thing? Are you going to blame the non-public airwaves because you can't control your 3 year old? People DO have to limit their childrens exposure to all things, not just radio and tv. It's called being a parent, and not trying to pass the blame on their poor parenting on their children having listened to or have seen something 'offensive'.

Hey, I don't necessarily agree with it, but that is the argument.
Parents cannot be on top of their children 24/7 and control what they listen to and watch, nor should they. The public airwaves have a right to be free of material that people find objectionable, just like public TV.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Sifl
Um, the show has 5 or 6 delays on it- it's never been cleaner. Indeed, Stern is up in arms about censorship.

I listened to the entire show, I didn't hear any bad words. This is too much, time to get the republicans out of office.

CC is a privately owned corporation. They can do whatever they want. Thanks for blaming republicans, though. That was really necessary.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ThePresence
What some people don't realize is that it's the PUBLIC airwaves, and yes, your three year old kid can tune in and hear some stuff no three year old should hear. People should not have to limit their children's exposure to the radio. Nobody cares what you listen to on satellite because it's not PUBLIC airwaves.
It's not anyone imposing their values on you, it's exactly the opposite in my view. It's these kind of hosts imposing their LACK of values onto the public airwaves. There's a reason why there's cable TV, do we need "cable" radio too?
I'm not specifically talking about Howard, I listen to the show sometimes. But I see where people are coming from in being upset.

Sorry, that rant holds no water in my book. What's the difference if the child tunes in to your Satellite radio and hears the same thing? Are you going to blame the non-public airwaves because you can't control your 3 year old? People DO have to limit their childrens exposure to all things, not just radio and tv. It's called being a parent, and not trying to pass the blame on their poor parenting on their children having listened to or have seen something 'offensive'.

Hey, I don't necessarily agree with it, but that is the argument.
Parents cannot be on top of their children 24/7 and control what they listen to and watch, nor should they. The public airwaves have a right to be free of material that people find objectionable, just like public TV.

I guess we should do the same to the internet as well.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: ThePresence
What some people don't realize is that it's the PUBLIC airwaves, and yes, your three year old kid can tune in and hear some stuff no three year old should hear. People should not have to limit their children's exposure to the radio. Nobody cares what you listen to on satellite because it's not PUBLIC airwaves.
It's not anyone imposing their values on you, it's exactly the opposite in my view. It's these kind of hosts imposing their LACK of values onto the public airwaves. There's a reason why there's cable TV, do we need "cable" radio too?
I'm not specifically talking about Howard, I listen to the show sometimes. But I see where people are coming from in being upset.

Sorry, that rant holds no water in my book. What's the difference if the child tunes in to your Satellite radio and hears the same thing? Are you going to blame the non-public airwaves because you can't control your 3 year old? People DO have to limit their childrens exposure to all things, not just radio and tv. It's called being a parent, and not trying to pass the blame on their poor parenting on their children having listened to or have seen something 'offensive'.

Hey, I don't necessarily agree with it, but that is the argument.
Parents cannot be on top of their children 24/7 and control what they listen to and watch, nor should they. The public airwaves have a right to be free of material that people find objectionable, just like public TV.

I guess we should do the same to the internet as well.

Plenty of people want to, but again the internet is a paid service, you have to pay a provider to get access....public radio and television is just that, public, anyone with a TV or radio can "tune in"...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: bozack
Plenty of people want to, but again the internet is a paid service, you have to pay a provider to get access....public radio and television is just that, public, anyone with a TV or radio can "tune in"...

So are you in favor of censorship of broadcasters, or not?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur
If we, the public, could only demand that Clear Channel cease as a company.

everything is moving towards conglomeratization, why stop the radio industry?

Why don't we just go ahead and make the leap to state-run TV/Radio. Bush would LOVE that!

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: bozack
Plenty of people want to, but again the internet is a paid service, you have to pay a provider to get access....public radio and television is just that, public, anyone with a TV or radio can "tune in"...

So are you in favor of censorship of broadcasters, or not?

I honestly don't know how I stand on the issue...part of me says no, they should do what they want, but I also realize that if given free reign to do what they please then we will see some truly awful things in the name of ratings...

I think that public media which is free to listeners/watchers should have some code of conduct that if broken, fines are levvied and rights revoked, whereas pay cable/media can do as it pleases....

 

[waylman]

might as well just start up a dictatorship! that way our leaders can decide everything for us!

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur
If we, the public, could only demand that Clear Channel cease as a company.

everything is moving towards conglomeratization, why stop the radio industry?

Why don't we just go ahead and make the leap to state-run TV/Radio. Bush would LOVE that!

Didn't Klinton sign the bill making companies such as Clearchannel possible? aren't Tipper Gore and Joe Liberman both vehement supporters of media censorship...sorry don't recall Bush taking too much of a stance on media censorship, at least not nearly as prominant as the two mentioned above....

 

[KGB1]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur
If we, the public, could only demand that Clear Channel cease as a company.

everything is moving towards conglomeratization, why stop the radio industry?

Why don't we just go ahead and make the leap to state-run TV/Radio. Bush would LOVE that!

:Q That would mean... I could watch the animated Jesus program right after I come home from school. I would also have the opportunity to listen to sermon's over "public" radio ariwaves. Even in school announcements would include several prayers and so forth. Gee... golly..gosh... Ain't America the raddest place on earth?

 

[ElFenix]

ironically, it was only after the radio station here in town was bought by clear channel that the DJ started having strippers and porn stars on the radio with him

 

[pulse8]

Plenty of people want to, but again the internet is a paid service, you have to pay a provider to get access....public radio and television is just that, public, anyone with a TV or radio can "tune in"...

My comment was more towards the ThePresence's view that we should censor the radio because parent's can't control their children 24/7.

My view on all of this is that if a parent doesn't like what's on the radio, DON'T OWN ONE. Or certainly don't listen to the shows or stations that you don't agree with.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Plenty of people want to, but again the internet is a paid service, you have to pay a provider to get access....public radio and television is just that, public, anyone with a TV or radio can "tune in"...

My comment was more towards the ThePresence's view that we should censor the radio because parent's can't control their children 24/7.

My view on all of this is that if a parent doesn't like what's on the radio, DON'T OWN ONE. Or certainly don't listen to the shows or stations that you don't agree with.

not owning something is fine, but with re. to children and not listening to the stations, as you said a parent cannot police all of the time, and children are pretty smart...they would figure it out as they do most things in no time....

like I said, I personally think that on broadcast media there should be some set of moral and ethical standards whereas paid media such as the internet, cable, and sattelite radio should be able to do whatever they want.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: pulse8

Plenty of people want to, but again the internet is a paid service, you have to pay a provider to get access....public radio and television is just that, public, anyone with a TV or radio can "tune in"...

My comment was more towards the ThePresence's view that we should censor the radio because parent's can't control their children 24/7.

My view on all of this is that if a parent doesn't like what's on the radio, DON'T OWN ONE. Or certainly don't listen to the shows or stations that you don't agree with.

not owning something is fine, but with re. to children and not listening to the stations, as you said a parent cannot police all of the time, and children are pretty smart...they would figure it out as they do most things in no time....

like I said, I personally think that on broadcast media there should be some set of moral and ethical standards whereas paid media such as the internet, cable, and sattelite radio should be able to do whatever they want.

Kids would figure it out, but you have to understand that as a parent and take precautions for that. I can't understand how everyone developed this mentality that the world needs to adjust to your needs rather than the other way around. Where does this all end? We surely can't please all of the people all of the time.

You say cable should be able to do whatever they want, but kids are sure to figure out how to access the cable stations as well. How do you fix that?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: KEV1N
It's about time!

You do realize you are one of the people helping CC control what we listen too both on the radio and in stores and also see in concerts.

They are creating a monopoly.

All you idiots happy about getting stern off the air (I don't listen to him too much anyway) are missing the bigger picture totally.

Å

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Sifl
Um, the show has 5 or 6 delays on it- it's never been cleaner. Indeed, Stern is up in arms about censorship.

I listened to the entire show, I didn't hear any bad words. This is too much, time to get the republicans out of office.

if anything the democrats would want this more than anything, they are all for censorship.

I'm not wading into a political debate - in this context, this is all about Michael Powell's FCC bending broadcasters to their will.

Sorry Don, I just hate blanket statements, especially when they are off the mark...while I won't disagree the religious right has some pull over the likes of Walmart and such, generally the democrats have been more adamant about brodcast media and censorship...like I said, lieberman and Gore did alot to stifle the voices of a few artists and both are flagrant left wingers.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/sep2000/cens-s20.shtml


from another source:

"For years, Lieberman (D-Conn.) has been Washington's most indefatigable proponent of slapping labels on nearly anything he finds personally offensive -- not to mention pressing for V-chips and denouncing the "destructive influence of the entertainment media."

In highly publicized campaigns, the Connecticut politician has linked arms with Book of Virtues author William Bennett to attack Hollywood: The duo tallied how many out-of-wedlock sexual references appeared on network broadcasts during "family hours" and successfully prodded computer-game makers to rate their software. They even pressured Time Warner into selling its Interscope rap label, which sold albums by Tupac Shakur and Dr. Dre.

Lieberman co-sponsored the Media Violence Labeling Act introduced in May. It would move the videogame and movie industries toward a single national rating system to be approved by the Federal Trade Commission. He said in June that websites would not be covered, but that his legislation "sets the stage" for such an effort in the future.

Tipper Gore, Vice President Al Gore's wife, began a similar campaign in the 1980s against "porn rock" -- which led to Senate hearings over music content and accusations of censorship from some publishers.

The prospect of the White House being occupied by a Gore-Lieberman pro-ratings combination seems to unsettle some free-speech groups.

"In principle (Lieberman's) in favor of free speech," says Marvin Rich, program director for the National Coalition Against Censorship. "On the other hand, he wants the government to intervene in areas that are probably not subject to government intervention under our First Amendment."

"In a number of areas, he and Tipper are side by side, arm in arm," Rich says.

In June, Lieberman told a Congressional advisory panel that the U.S. government should consider creating a new top-level domain such as ".sex" or ".xxx." (Government auditors have said that only the Commerce Department can add new top-level domains.)

"This idea, which would in effect establish a virtual red-light district ... has a lot of merit," Lieberman said. "For rather than constricting the Net's open architecture, it would capitalize on it to effectively shield children from pornography."

Critics have said the idea won't work because different countries have different standards: Conservative Muslim countries could be exceptionally censorial, while the Netherlands is generally more laissez-faire. Even inside the United States, some artists have been convicted under obscenity laws for lewd cartoons. "

Leiberman is a Jew.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: pulse8
Kids would figure it out, but you have to understand that as a parent and take precautions for that. I can't understand how everyone developed this mentality that the world needs to adjust to your needs rather than the other way around. Where does this all end? We surely can't please all of the people all of the time.

You say cable should be able to do whatever they want, but kids are sure to figure out how to access the cable stations as well. How do you fix that?

like I said, cable is a pay service, thus you can have a TV and not get cable...just as the internet, and sattelite radio are all pay services....

free broadcasts like standard radio and television are what I am talking about with re. regulation...

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: pulse8
Kids would figure it out, but you have to understand that as a parent and take precautions for that. I can't understand how everyone developed this mentality that the world needs to adjust to your needs rather than the other way around. Where does this all end? We surely can't please all of the people all of the time.

You say cable should be able to do whatever they want, but kids are sure to figure out how to access the cable stations as well. How do you fix that?

like I said, cable is a pay service, thus you can have a TV and not get cable...just as the internet, and sattelite radio are all pay services....

free broadcasts like standard radio and television are what I am talking about with re. regulation...

I see what your saying, but if people don't like what's on free radio or TV, no one is forcing them to own these products.

 

[chibchakan]

IMO if you don't like what's on tv or radio you shouldn't own a tv or radio. Read your bible, sing your hymns and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy the debauchery. Trojan Games anyone? Check out the video highlights

 

[AlienCraft]

In San Francisco he is carried on an Infinity Station.
I don't listen to or watch ClearChannel Stations.
It is with a heavy heart I went to Clear Channel Entertainment to work as a stagehand. So far, they haven't called though!

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: pulse8
Kids would figure it out, but you have to understand that as a parent and take precautions for that. I can't understand how everyone developed this mentality that the world needs to adjust to your needs rather than the other way around. Where does this all end? We surely can't please all of the people all of the time.

You say cable should be able to do whatever they want, but kids are sure to figure out how to access the cable stations as well. How do you fix that?

like I said, cable is a pay service, thus you can have a TV and not get cable...just as the internet, and sattelite radio are all pay services....

free broadcasts like standard radio and television are what I am talking about with re. regulation...

I see what your saying, but if people don't like what's on free radio or TV, no one is forcing them to own these products.

That's true, but those airwaves are public domain. This is a circular argument.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

"The Bush backers are at it again. But i am glad that they have my best interest at heart and do the deciding and thinking for me. Because you know that i am incapable of deciding on what to listen to. I don't even have enough thought to change the channel."

my father when i told him the news... my dad rocks!