Really RbV5- where does nVidia say since 12/20 that anyone will have WMV on nV40/45s?
Link please?
You are right that I don't speak for nVidia though, the most I've ever done is passed on what I could from my friend.
Really RbV5- where does nVidia say since 12/20 that anyone will have WMV on nV40/45s?
Link please?
You are right that I don't speak for nVidia though, the most I've ever done is passed on what I could from my friend.
rbV5
Lifer
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Whoever listens to anything nvidia "says" at face value since at least prior to the launch of NV30 is a damn fool, which is why I have placed a large piece of the blame for the 6800 PVP issue squarely on myself. "Don't believe it until you see it for yourself" Their marketing of NV40 suckered me right in.
Despite your continued myopic view, there is far more to this issue to consider than hardware WMV decoding. The fact is, promised functionality for the feature set continues to be in question for existing cards and future products.
At this point, is anything other than some MPEG decode functionality available for any of the cards? Official driver support? Seems like alot of unanswered questions to me.
What is pathetic are these idiotic, condescending posts directed at a good company.
We all know the situation here. Are we helping noobs here or somethign?
HardWarrior
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So the other shoe drops and the self-serving BS about wanting to "help" falls away. On the planet where you live "good companies" screw their best buyers and lie to save face. And you have the temerity to question the mental health of others? I hope you're getting paid for this show HC, otherwise you really need to power-down your box and find something of real value to fixate upon.
Rollo - You still haven't answered why you're attempting to stir up trouble with antagonistic posts while simultaneously whining about people who complain about the non-functional PVP functions. Quit egging it on and hopefully it'll quiet back down.
I realize that you have a secret contact deep within the private inner workings of Nvidia who constantly keeps you updated with impeccably accurate information and that you cannot disclose it to those of us in the general public for fear of him being executed.
But as somebody not constantly "in the know" like you, I can only watch and wait, hoping that Nvidia will release news of a core revision or other solution that will fix the PVP problem. This is one of the reasons I visit this thread. And until I buy a new card, I will continue to visit 6800 and X800 threads to compare the two and learn as much about each card's strengths and weaknesses.
Trust me, it's not because I enjoy watching your endless verbal poking and prodding of forum members in order to create an endless cycle of flaming.
I realize that you have a secret contact deep within the private inner workings of Nvidia who constantly keeps you updated with impeccably accurate information and that you cannot disclose it to those of us in the general public for fear of him being executed.
But as somebody not constantly "in the know" like you, I can only watch and wait, hoping that Nvidia will release news of a core revision or other solution that will fix the PVP problem. This is one of the reasons I visit this thread. And until I buy a new card, I will continue to visit 6800 and X800 threads to compare the two and learn as much about each card's strengths and weaknesses.
Trust me, it's not because I enjoy watching your endless verbal poking and prodding of forum members in order to create an endless cycle of flaming.
Prove there was a lie. Seriously. Thats a big claim you and others are making here.
Prove Nvidia lied about any of this.
I speculated early in this thread on how things went down, and unless you assume the absolute worst, Nvidia was foolish at best. Not malevolent.
That speaks more of your character, than it does of mine.
You guys are mad, but the only people you have to blame are yourselves. Finding "NVIDIA LIED" is a fruitless quest. Kinda reminds me of the '04 election, "Bush Lied" amounted to a whole lot of squat. So does this garbage. Sometimes I wonder if wives tales and propaganda has taken over reason and logic.
rbV5
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You've articulated quite well that you don't know what the "situation" is here. Your posts in this thread are nothing but inflammitory crap for example.
I'm no "noob"
as you call them, in fact its quite likely that although a number of users just want general details on the 6800 video playback, a number of the users that actually discuss the real issue (not the nvidia appologists such as yourself who serve mearly to smell up these threads with insults and FUD) are likely more advanced power users that have an idea of what they are talking about.What makes nvidias current feature set of "watered down, yet to be enabled PVP features" any more viable than the the feature set they and reviewers touted at launch? Their word?
So after reading about the problem with the 6800's and wmvhd playback, I went out and purchased the 6600GT. Guess what? It does not work on my 6600GT either. I have tried every driver I could find, but it uses more CPU than my ATI 8500. I RMA'd it and will hopefully can exchange it for an ATI card.
Gamingphreek
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What in the world is that going to do. They dont have anything that Nvidia doesn't. In fact Nvidia does more acceleration than they do. Your logic isn't working right.
-Kevin
He decided that he didn't like the way Nvidia is handling this situation with consumers and instead purchased a card from their competitor. That's the strongest statement possible to make. And if enough other people do the same, Nvidia WILL change their business practice or suffer financially.
i dont blame the guy. it coudl be (in some ppl's eyes) a decent reason to hold a grudge against nvidia if you are one of the "effected".
i give him major props.. instead of bitching about something he cant change.. he is putting his money where his mouth is. more than anyone else here is doing.
thats the absolute biggest blow he can lend to Nvidia, besides that 100,000,000 to 1 lawsuit that will leave anyone cold, bitter and realizing that the only people who win in lawsuits are the lawyers.
remember that everyone, i will have saved you much time/sorrow.
trust me, i know. i won a million dollar suit a few months ago.. with more pending. it sounds good, until you see the lawyers checks..
and the pain/sorrow/sacrifice/humiliation needed is beyond what its worth.. sometimes even if you were really wronged.
and this nvidia lawsuit is nothing to get fired up about. save the lawsuits for serious issues.
and yes, my computer sucks. im North Irish.. us Scotsmen just CANNOT remove the frugal. i'd need more cash than i have now to start pissing it away.
Keysplayr
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Will that be going into your Intel based system? Or your Nforce3/4 mobo?
Although I do give you props as well. Doing anything at all is better than nothing.
My next card will be ATI also. If it ever becomes available that is. I want a X800XL
to mess around with.
Gamingphreek
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You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Give it a rest.... a few people "SAYING" that they aren't going to buy Nvidia cards anymore doesn't mean crap. What do you think Nvidia was going to do... they had alredy sold hundreds of thousands of these cards.... did you want them to simply refund you all of your money and give you a new card. Fat chance! No company could afford that... i doubt even Big Bill could.
You say you aren't going to buy Nvidia anymore or at least for a while. Well what happens if the NV50 comes and completely blows the R500 out of the water? MUCH MUCH worse than the NV3x. You still going to stay ATI?
A few people in this world whining and complaining and saying crap isn't going to scare a big corporation like Nvidia. Yeah i agree it probably isn't the best practice to get into, and im sure if they could have given everyone a new card they would have but its poor business practices.
You guys should just give it up... it wont change anything, all it does is raise tensions.
-Kevin
I have to confess, I bought the X800XT PE because of the PVP issue...................
NAH! I bought it because it's a kickass gaming card.:beer:
Anyway, I respect voting with your wallet. I also think it's a hollow victory when you don't really get a better card that has the features you want, just to make a point.
I'm fond of saying if you boycott musicians and actors whose viewpoints you disagree with, you'll end up without entertainment.
Same thing here. There's two whole card companies. Go ahead and limit yourself to one, but I'm sure not going to till one of them starts using slave labor to make them out of reconstituted aborted fetuses.
I'm not going to deny myself the fun of playing with anyone's video cards because of something that might have been a mistake, and even if it was intentional, is nothing new to the rev. 1 hardware scene.
You can waste a lot of time trying to ponder corporate "ethics" till you realize the only person you can trust is Rollo.
NAH! I bought it because it's a kickass gaming card.
:beer:Anyway, I respect voting with your wallet. I also think it's a hollow victory when you don't really get a better card that has the features you want, just to make a point.
I'm fond of saying if you boycott musicians and actors whose viewpoints you disagree with, you'll end up without entertainment.
Same thing here. There's two whole card companies. Go ahead and limit yourself to one, but I'm sure not going to till one of them starts using slave labor to make them out of reconstituted aborted fetuses.
I'm not going to deny myself the fun of playing with anyone's video cards because of something that might have been a mistake, and even if it was intentional, is nothing new to the rev. 1 hardware scene.
You can waste a lot of time trying to ponder corporate "ethics" till you realize the only person you can trust is Rollo.
lol well put!
iirc, i stated there is no ethics in business.. they are created soley for profit. everything else comes secondary.
so experiences like this (as "horrible" as they are) are quite the reality check, as we sit in our heated, comfortable American homes.. that we dont get everything promised, and not everything works out. Esp when it comes to cutting edge consumer hardware.. hard to mass produce, make affordable, and do it completely correctly everytime the first time.
Its very clear no one here has been doing something in life to do with reality, like fighting it out in Iraq.. makes Purevideo acceleration seem a little silly (and insignificant as it really is).
certainly gotten the attention it deserves, two locked threads..
i give these guys the right to be pissed, buy ati, whatever.. they deserve that.. if theres new info (even tho Nvidia said there wont be), it will be much better suited for a new thread.
i for one, still think even without PVP the GF6 stands above the X800 series. but i'll buy your defective 6800s for cheap, since this issue is so serious, im sure the market has taken a toll on them.
iirc, i stated there is no ethics in business.. they are created soley for profit. everything else comes secondary.
so experiences like this (as "horrible" as they are) are quite the reality check, as we sit in our heated, comfortable American homes.. that we dont get everything promised, and not everything works out. Esp when it comes to cutting edge consumer hardware.. hard to mass produce, make affordable, and do it completely correctly everytime the first time.
Its very clear no one here has been doing something in life to do with reality, like fighting it out in Iraq.. makes Purevideo acceleration seem a little silly (and insignificant as it really is).
certainly gotten the attention it deserves, two locked threads..
i give these guys the right to be pissed, buy ati, whatever.. they deserve that.. if theres new info (even tho Nvidia said there wont be), it will be much better suited for a new thread.
i for one, still think even without PVP the GF6 stands above the X800 series. but i'll buy your defective 6800s for cheap, since this issue is so serious, im sure the market has taken a toll on them.
LTC8K6
Lifer
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keys, it will go into my Prescott system.
All of the remarks around here about people being idiots, stupid, mentally challenged, etc., for wanting an Intel system have nearly turned me off to AMD.
Logged on here recently and bam, there was another one, "mentally unstable" for wanting an Intel system. Oh well....
All of the remarks around here about people being idiots, stupid, mentally challenged, etc., for wanting an Intel system have nearly turned me off to AMD.
Logged on here recently and bam, there was another one, "mentally unstable" for wanting an Intel system. Oh well....
James3shin
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I've never gotten this.
People acting as if choice of hardware is somehow indicative of intellect.
If you think it's bad with Intel, try acquiring three FX5800 video cards and see what they say!
I doubt what he meant was implying buying Prescott equals some kind of mental illness.
From my take he is asking if any of us are starting to hate nVidia because of the videocard and if we project nVidia as a "bad company", will we continue to embrace nVidia based motherboards and other nVidia hardware?
James3shin
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what ever happened to "don't knock it before you try it" ? I admit i thought the prescott was a dud, but after building a presscott for a friend, the system runs pretty darn well, no shame in a presscott.
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