G70 does 7703 in 3DMark05

[n7]

WTF is the matter with you flaming idiots :|?

I cannot believe i just read thru this crap in this thread.

I know no one cares, but i seriously think i am going to stay out of this forum if i have to read more BS from you children.

Why is it that every second thread i read in this section has to be a ghay flamefest :frown:

Even you Rollo & Ronin, though you two think you are above us somehow because you get to see/buy the hardware before us, you aren't.
You still act like babies in here with the other idiots.

And to the rest of you, STFU about the new card(s) till you see them unless you have something informative to say :|

 

[Gamingphreek]

Even you Rollo & Ronin, though you two think you are above us somehow because you get to see/buy the hardware before us, you aren't.

Last i checked Rollo didn't have access to anything we didn't. And if memory serves me right Ronin did no such bragging so as to put himself above us.

Geez..
Why don't you call your mom too while you're at it?

I'm sure nVidia already knew about this, and will take action of their own.

This is not some stupid forum rule, or some little boy being upset and crying to his mom. That guy broke a contract. The people he made the contract with dont give a sh!t if he reviewed the product in favor or not, he broke the contract and deserves reprimand, however "noble" :roll: his actions may appear to some of you.

You still act like babies in here with the other idiots.

Not a really wise idea to call every person in this forum an idiot

And to the rest of you, STFU about the new card(s) till you see them unless you have something informative to say

What is wrong with discussion? Isn't that what you do on forums. As long as these rumors dont become reality in peoples minds there is nothing wrong with discussion.

-Kevin

 

[Shamrock]

what's wrong with this image?

http://pic.digital-info.net/autumn/7800GTX/005.jpg (taken from the Xtremesystems forum screenshot)

Look at the stamping.

nVidia
050502 05
K Korea
(all a dull color, look at the lighting)

THEN you have:
GF-7800-GTX-A2
Why is this stamp a VERY bright white???

Let's not even discuss the 3dmark pictures. I can fake any of it, and you couldnt tell. Want me to publish my 3dmark score of 35,197 on a stock cooled 6800GT?

 

[Patrick Wolf]

It's fun to flame and act foolish but let's get back the hardware discussion, shall we?

Shamrock, you gotta say WHICH 3DMark, 05? (not likely)

 

[Sentential]

What do you mean that I am trying to *justify* something? Im not justifying anything. If this guy legimatally broke the law, I hope you hammer him for it. That is COMPLETELY different than if he was allowed to. I dont have the facts on that situation, and I dont belive you do entirely either (not yet atleast).

I think the real issue here is that I am purely calling you out. I too would be skeptical but he has tons and tons and tons of pre-release info. If he didnt have such a significant track record with SO many companies I might be a little bit leary. He has yet to show a "fake" product.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
What is wrong with discussion? Isn't that what you do on forums. As long as these rumors dont become reality in peoples minds there is nothing wrong with discussion.

-Kevin

lol.

 

[Ronin]

http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriornoflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash2.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiornoflash1.jpg

Best I can offer without breaking NDA (and I've already shown these before).

At least they look real.

BTW, the name on the core of the 7800 he supposedly has? That's not what it looks like

 

[Shamrock]

Originally posted by: wolfman579
It's fun to flame and act foolish but let's get back the hardware discussion, shall we?

Shamrock, you gotta say WHICH 3DMark, 05? (not likely)

yes, 05....My point is, I can fake any benchmark...I "could" show you a 35,000 benchmark, so I call BS on the forum link, that is NOT a 7800GTX, as mentioned by Ronin.

The picture I linked to is NOT a 7800 GTX. It is forged, as you can tell by stamping on the core.

 

[rise]

the stamping does look odd now that you mention it. i didn't look to closely before.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: rise4310
the stamping does look odd now that you mention it. i didn't look to closely before.

Wow. Shamrock that was amazing that you could pick out such a subtle discrepency :thumbsup:. I am impressed. Now that i look at it though, he (shamrock) is completely right.

-Kevin

 

[Sentential]

Originally posted by: Ronin
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriornoflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash2.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiornoflash1.jpg

Best I can offer without breaking NDA (and I've already shown these before).

At least they look real.

BTW, the name on the core of the 7800 he supposedly has? That's not what it looks like

Fair enough Once the NDA expires I look foreward to hearing your reasons why 7ish k is wrong On another note, what is the heat load like? Idle/Load temps etc.

 

[Ronin]

Not questions I can answer at the moment. Almighty NDA, still. Won't change until the 21st, and neither will my tight lippedness.

 

[bdoople]

So the NVIDIA 7800 comes out on Tuesday?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: bdoople
So the NVIDIA 7800 comes out on Tuesday?

That would be the 21st

-Kevin

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Sentential

Originally posted by: Ronin
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriornoflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash2.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiornoflash1.jpg

Best I can offer without breaking NDA (and I've already shown these before).

At least they look real.

BTW, the name on the core of the 7800 he supposedly has? That's not what it looks like

Fair enough Once the NDA expires I look foreward to hearing your reasons why 7ish k is wrong On another note, what is the heat load like? Idle/Load temps etc.

You won't have to ask Ronin . . . every HW site that has a 7800 will be posting benchmarks and reviews.

Just curious, did nVidia send out only one version of their new card?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Ronin
Not questions I can answer at the moment. Almighty NDA, still. Won't change until the 21st, and neither will my tight lippedness.

But *nudge* its not 7k in 3D mark05 *wink*, right Ronin *nudge*?

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Sentential

Originally posted by: Ronin
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/exteriornoflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash2.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiorflash.jpg
http://server.counter-strike.net/images/misc/interiornoflash1.jpg

Best I can offer without breaking NDA (and I've already shown these before).

At least they look real.

BTW, the name on the core of the 7800 he supposedly has? That's not what it looks like

Fair enough Once the NDA expires I look foreward to hearing your reasons why 7ish k is wrong On another note, what is the heat load like? Idle/Load temps etc.

You won't have to ask Ronin . . . every HW site that has a 7800 will be posting benchmarks and reviews.

Just curious, did nVidia send out only one version of their new card?

I can make a speculation that I believe only the GTX's were provided, but that's pure spec on my part. I can't say for sure.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: apoppin

Just curious, did nVidia send out only one version of their new card?

I can make a speculation that I believe only the GTX's were provided, but that's pure spec on my part. I can't say for sure.

i am also speculating that perhaps the reasons for the different leaked scores are different versions of the new core . . . Standard, GT, GTX . . .

now that would be masterful misdirection on nVidia's part. :evil:
[send the lower-clocked cards to the sites known for their 'leakage']

 

[imported_X]

More confirmation for the (in my opinion) paltry performance of the 7800. Disappointing for a next generation card. In SLI, it is not much more than you can get from 6800 Ultras. This is the GTX, maybe the Ultra will be a lot faster. Here's hoping the slew of reviews tomorrow night will be more positive:

BEFORE YOU SEE all Geforce 7800GTX post NDA scores in Wednesday dawn BST or 9 PM San Francisco time in Tuesday already we are ready to share a performance number or deux avec vous.

Dell's favorite 3D benchmark, 3Dmark05 will score 7600 on non overclocked machine while two cards in SLI can get 11200. Even we kind of all expected more it?s a nice score but SLI could kind of provide even more. Two 6800 Ultras from Gainward clocked at 425 MHz can score 10200 just a thousand less than two super duper 7800 GTX cards. So whoever launched the story about 7800 score for Geforce 7800 GTX was not too off at all even the name comes from Nvidia's proved naming nomenclature. Nvidia is very good in getting the message to market about their parts and positioning and it wouldn't want to mess it with some new numbers who can confuse anyone.

If we talking about older mark 03, single card scores 16000 while two cards will get you to amazing 26000. When we talking about games all games will benefit and usual suspects such as Doom 3 and HL2 will end up 20 to 30 percent faster at least in one of them, some other games will benefit but no question that this card will end up faster than current single slot non SLI king X850XT PE.

Nvidia made a great thing for moving the production to TSMC as we confirmed that many people will have those cards in retail starting this Wednesday already. Yields are good it was about the time for Nvidia to get some nice yields and to stop experimenting with IBM's Fishkill. G70, Geforce 7800 GXT chip is running cool and power consumption of the card is very good. It's not power greedy even it's built on 110 nano marchitecture and has 302 millions of transistor.

Just to give you an idea about performance but you have to wait almost two more days to see the storm on NDA reviews on the net.

On a more positive note, it looks like the 7800 will actually be in stock for those looking to upgrade:

NVIDIA DID IT this time. For the first time in 3D chips computer graphic history one of the companies managed to introduce the chip and to have it in retail on exact same date. This is how CPU guys have been doing things for ages but the usual graphic suspects such as Nvidia and ATI never managed to do such a thing. We have to congratulate Nvidia as it was the first to do it.

The overclocking store one of the UK most famous online shops will have variety of Geforce 7800GTX to offer. Guys will have three to five different flavors of the card and will have them in Wednesday morning ready to ship.

We learned that OcUK guys will have BFG, Leadtek and XFX 7800GTX cards and that?s what people have been talking in various places and forums. We know that those cards are in stock for a while but there will be no announcement before Nvidia lifts NDA's in Wednesday 7 AM UK, BST ? British Standard Time. We can add two other names such as Chaintech and Gigabyte as those cards will be in stock as well.

We learned that the cards are great performers and exceptional overclockers and be sure that you come back to Overclockers store site in Wednesday. Here is the direct link

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: apoppin

Just curious, did nVidia send out only one version of their new card?

I can make a speculation that I believe only the GTX's were provided, but that's pure spec on my part. I can't say for sure.

i am also speculating that perhaps the reasons for the different leaked scores are different versions of the new core . . . Standard, GT, GTX . . .

now that would be masterful misdirection on nVidia's part. :evil:
[send the lower-clocked cards to the sites known for their 'leakage']

whoohoo . . . quoting myself.

Looks lkike there WILL be several variations of the 7800 available on release date:

Geforce 7800GTX in retail, starting from Wednesday

The overclocking store one of the UK most famous online shops will have variety of Geforce 7800GTX to offer. Guys will have three to five different flavors of the card and will have them in Wednesday morning ready to ship.

and it looks like the inq is sticking to its 7800 or so points in 3DM05.

 

[imported_shaw]

They're in stock now at mwave.com, I'm trying to resist buying one until tommorrow and I see official benchmarks, but right now it's like.. hard to resist!

Plus, damn ATi's offering isn't until July, blah.

I just hope that being an early adopter doesn't get me owned like people who were early adopters of the FX5600.

 

[Gamingphreek]

However once again all of this is from the Inquirer. However, these scores are the end all for this card. If the R520 scores really good on 3dMark but is HORRIBLE in games while the G70 is really good in games but bad in 3dMark, guess what card im going to get.

Some things to think about:
1. The Geforce FX outperformed the 9800's in 3dMarks back then, yet the 9800's were a much better card
2. The G70 is most llikely running unoptimized unreleased drivers, in which case there is no 3dMark optimizations. With the optimizations alone the score can jump 2000 points. Remember when 3dMark 05 was released, and then ATI and Nvidia released drivers. Big improvement.
3. While these score may be true, we dont know what kind of system that card is running on. They could be running it on a 2.8 Celeron for all we know, which therefore severely bottlenecks it.
4. There could be other performane enhancements. Just because the games do not play better, does not mean that there aren't huge performance gains in other aspects such as AA and AF, or HDR etc...
5. While unlikely and although it has not been reported the thing that would really set Nvidia on a good track would be a working PPU. Perhaps they just kept quiet on the PPU and that will be one of the things disclosed when the NDA is lifted. If that were to happen imagine not only the possible performance improvements but the IQ improvements. Unlikely, but one can hope.

I skipped the Geforce 6 and Radeon Xxxx series waiting for this card, so im praying that both companies have something on there cards that will put a smile on everyones face

-Kevin

 

[imported_X]

Originally posted by: shaw
They're in stock now at mwave.com, I'm trying to resist buying one until tommorrow and I see official benchmarks, but right now it's like.. hard to resist!

Someone called mwave about this on Friday, and they said it was a mistake and they actually don't have any in stock. I think you'll have to wait until Wednesday, and at that point you can do price comparisons with other vendors.

 

[imported_X]

Good points, Kevin. I think it is very unlikely that the 7800 will include a PPU, but your thoughts on driver maturity, overall system specs, and real world performance will hopefully play out in Nvidia's favor. I do find it encouraging that the cards will actually be in stock on the official launch day.

 

[rise]

We learned that the cards are great performers and exceptional overclockers and be sure that you come back to Overclockers store site on Wednesday. Here is the direct link. µ

they "learn" something everyday