Fed a mouse to my spider! **VIDEO**

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BigJ

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
actually i do think that most lab scientists do not spend their time torturing animals for no reason. if you think otherwise you've been to a few too many peta rallies.

and if your saying your better then the very very very worst evil mad scientist...thats setting a wonderfully low standard of behavior for yourself:p

So you disapprove of me feeding the mouse to the spider because it's "unnatural", yet you're fine with scientists research done on mice? Sheesh, spiders EAT mice. No different than me feeding it crickets. I didn't torture the mouse. I couldn't have "humanely" killed the mouse before feeding it to the spider, otherwise she wouldn't have eaten it. What was I supposed to do, give it a lethal injection?

Your logic is completely backwards. You disagree with feeding the spider a mouse, yet approve of animal research and abortion. Maybe I should start feeding my spider aborted fetuses?

It's not like you cut all the limbs off of the mouse and left it there to be eaten by the spider. Now that woulda been pretty sick.
 

DrPizza

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1. Hmmm..
How to build the better mousetrap:

Attach a piece of cheese to the tops of 100 tarantulas and release them in the house. :D


2. those movies - where the huuuuuge spiders bite the people and kill them... now imagine instead of nearly instant death as depicted in most of the movies that the people were slowly digested over the course of 10 or 20 minutes before they died. What a pleasant thought.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: ifesfor
RaiderJ, you are just a cruel human being.

Shame on you.



You know that spiders eat mice and birds and little lizards in the wild, right?

thats out of your hands though. when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him. and so he's responsible for his direct actions that result in unecessary cruelty, not something to be proud of.

and i really wouldn't use that "it happens in the wild" arguement to justify anything. a great many cruelties occur in the wild. would allow u to justify most any kind of evil.



That's not cruel and it's not evil. That's the way a spider lives. The mouse would have eaten the spider if it had the chance. It only bothers you because the mouse is cuter than the spider. Why wouldn't you feed your spider a natural diet if you could?

I bet you're pro choice too.

the cruelty comes with the choice of the human. the spider lives any way it can. it would eat you if it could, it cares not. you on the other hand make choices for it because you chose to own such a pet. you are responsible for its actions. it has nothing to do with cuteness, but whether an action was necessary to justify the cruelty. it clearly was not as there was a readily avaliable alternative. as for the natural diet... the spider is already in an unnatural situation. it has no need to catch food. its food has no where to run. and its not as if its going to die because its not being fed vitamin mouse. unless he's going to release it to the wild, the naturalness of something is pretty absurd.

and yes i'm pro choice. just as i see the difference between a mouse and a cricket, i see the difference between a human being an a fetus.. or cluster or cells:p
Your very confusing...

I'm sure you chose to eat plants instead of ANY animal with 'more brains than a mouse' since there are alternate food sources available to you...

So are you a vegan, or hypocrit?
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: RaiderJ
actually i do think that most lab scientists do not spend their time torturing animals for no reason. if you think otherwise you've been to a few too many peta rallies.

and if your saying your better then the very very very worst evil mad scientist...thats setting a wonderfully low standard of behavior for yourself:p

So you disapprove of me feeding the mouse to the spider because it's "unnatural", yet you're fine with scientists research done on mice? Sheesh, spiders EAT mice. No different than me feeding it crickets. I didn't torture the mouse. I couldn't have "humanely" killed the mouse before feeding it to the spider, otherwise she wouldn't have eaten it. What was I supposed to do, give it a lethal injection?

Your logic is completely backwards. You disagree with feeding the spider a mouse, yet approve of animal research and abortion. Maybe I should start feeding my spider aborted fetuses?

It's not like you cut all the limbs off of the mouse and left it there to be eaten by the spider. Now that woulda been pretty sick.
Owners of snakes sometimes do that.
 

TranceNation

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For all those that thought it was 'cool' and 'funny', can't wait until that spider grows huge one day like that one episode of the twilight zone and eats you lol
 

Nebor

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I thought it was sad. Cruelty like that doesn't exist in my world, so I'd rather not see it.
 

everman

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I can't see how this is cruel in any way, have you ever watched the discovery channel?
and back on topic....
How long does a meal like that last for that spider?
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: ifesfor
RaiderJ, you are just a cruel human being.

Shame on you.



You know that spiders eat mice and birds and little lizards in the wild, right?

thats out of your hands though. when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him. and so he's responsible for his direct actions that result in unecessary cruelty, not something to be proud of.

and i really wouldn't use that "it happens in the wild" arguement to justify anything. a great many cruelties occur in the wild. would allow u to justify most any kind of evil.



That's not cruel and it's not evil. That's the way a spider lives. The mouse would have eaten the spider if it had the chance. It only bothers you because the mouse is cuter than the spider. Why wouldn't you feed your spider a natural diet if you could?

I bet you're pro choice too.

the cruelty comes with the choice of the human. the spider lives any way it can. it would eat you if it could, it cares not. you on the other hand make choices for it because you chose to own such a pet. you are responsible for its actions. it has nothing to do with cuteness, but whether an action was necessary to justify the cruelty. it clearly was not as there was a readily avaliable alternative. as for the natural diet... the spider is already in an unnatural situation. it has no need to catch food. its food has no where to run. and its not as if its going to die because its not being fed vitamin mouse. unless he's going to release it to the wild, the naturalness of something is pretty absurd.

and yes i'm pro choice. just as i see the difference between a mouse and a cricket, i see the difference between a human being an a fetus.. or cluster or cells:p
Your very confusing...

I'm sure you chose to eat plants instead of ANY animal with 'more brains than a mouse' since there are alternate food sources available to you...

So are you a vegan, or hypocrit?


wasn't my arguement. i suppose your a hipocrite because you probably appose me bashing in the skull of a puppy..yet u eat meat?
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Phoenix86Your very confusing...

I'm sure you chose to eat plants instead of ANY animal with 'more brains than a mouse' since there are alternate food sources available to you...

So are you a vegan, or hypocrit?


wasn't my arguement.
Really? Because you said
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.
I'm sure you eat things with less complex nervous systems and no brains, right?

i suppose your a hipocrite because you probably appose me bashing in the skull of a puppy..yet u eat meat?
I suppose you don't really know and are grasping at straws since you don't really know how I feel about any of that, now do you... Nice assumption of my beliefs, and moronic conclusion that fits your argument based on that assumption.

If you really want to eat a dog, then sure, go ahead. Lots of Koreans do, and I don't find that very offensive, especialy considering the cultural differences. Are you Korean?

If you want to beat a dog to death for fun, that's totaly different. Nice straw man. The spider is eating, as I eat meat. I don't see the difference, your the one that does. You just can't justify that position while YOU eat meat.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: everman
I can't see how this is cruel in any way, have you ever watched the discovery channel?
and back on topic....
How long does a meal like that last for that spider?

She's tremendously fat right now... she basically chewed on it for an entire day (24hrs). In contrast, crickets usually take a couple hours to finish off. I've not fed her a mouse before, but I'm thinking I'll wait a week before I feed her again.

After this, I'll probably keep her on crickets for a good while, I've heard that feeding them mice too often can be bad for them (missing nutrients, maybe?).
 

0roo0roo

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I suppose you don't really know and are grasping at straws since you don't really know how I feel about any of that, now do you... Nice assumption of my beliefs, and moronic conclusion that fits your argument based on that assumption.

its a reasonable assumption. either you're a sadistic cruel bastard that wouldn't care if i did basah puppy skulls in, or a vegan. based on your post i doubt you're either:p

I'm sure you eat things with less complex nervous systems and no brains, right?

i don't eat them alive.
 

LoverBoyJ

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thats a baby mouse, its eyes are still closed. have you tried a grown up mouse? That would be a good fight!
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: LoverBoyJ
thats a baby mouse, its eyes are still closed. have you tried a grown up mouse? That would be a good fight!

An adult mouse I think would be too much for the spider, size-wise and aggressiveness. One good bite from the mouse and it would be all over for the spider (although it might make OrooOroo happy).
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
I suppose you don't really know and are grasping at straws since you don't really know how I feel about any of that, now do you... Nice assumption of my beliefs, and moronic conclusion that fits your argument based on that assumption.

its a reasonable assumption. either you're a sadistic cruel bastard that wouldn't care if i did basah puppy skulls in, or a vegan. based on your post i doubt you're either:p

I'm sure you eat things with less complex nervous systems and no brains, right?

i don't eat them alive.

Umm... WTF? Don't kill things to eat, but kill things to eat? Make up your mind! If Koreans kill puppies for food, so what? I can't say I would relish the thought of puppy chow for dinner, but others hate crab & shrimp.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
I suppose you don't really know and are grasping at straws since you don't really know how I feel about any of that, now do you... Nice assumption of my beliefs, and moronic conclusion that fits your argument based on that assumption.

its a reasonable assumption. either you're a sadistic cruel bastard that wouldn't care if i did basah puppy skulls in, or a vegan. based on your post i doubt you're either:p

I'm sure you eat things with less complex nervous systems and no brains, right?

i don't eat them alive.

Assume whatever you want, your arguments makes 0 sense.

Someone has to kill what you eat, the fact that you didn't do it, or witness it makes no difference to the animal. To quote, "when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him," you are making unneceary choices in eating meat. Did you really believe that when a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to hear it, that it doesn't make a sound? OK... Back to reality...

You cannot justify the statements you have made in this thread with your lifestyle, so I guess your a hypocrit.

Edit: Worse than that, people are spelling it out to you, and you don't even care to listen. You just keep trying to justify yourself... :roll:
 

DrPizza

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Future ideas:
Feed it a big frog or toad
How about a baby hamster? They're cuter.
Or, maybe a baby rat? (they're uglier)

How about a goldfish? Would the tarantula attack a large goldfish in 1/2 inch of water?

Could you entice it to eat the finger of a drunken (not liked) college roommate? Or perhaps the kid who passed out in the bathroom in the dorm late on a Saturday night?

(edit: I was just tired of seeing the same argument over cruelty to a poor helpless mouse... let's open up the cruelty options...)
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Future ideas:
Feed it a big frog or toad
How about a baby hamster? They're cuter.
Or, maybe a baby rat? (they're uglier)

How about a goldfish? Would the tarantula attack a large goldfish in 1/2 inch of water?

Could you entice it to eat the finger of a drunken (not liked) college roommate? Or perhaps the kid who passed out in the bathroom in the dorm late on a Saturday night?

(edit: I was just tired of seeing the same argument over cruelty to a poor helpless mouse... let's open up the cruelty options...)

How about clubbed baby seal? I live in Alaska, so those shouldn't be too hard to get :D