Fed a mouse to my spider! **VIDEO**

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Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: ifesfor
RaiderJ, you are just a cruel human being.

Shame on you.
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You know that spiders eat mice and birds and little lizards in the wild, right?
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thats out of your hands though. when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him. and so he's responsible for his direct actions that result in unecessary cruelty, not something to be proud of.

and i really wouldn't use that "it happens in the wild" arguement to justify anything. a great many cruelties occur in the wild. would allow u to justify most any kind of evil.
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That's not cruel and it's not evil. That's the way a spider lives. The mouse would have eaten the spider if it had the chance. It only bothers you because the mouse is cuter than the spider. Why wouldn't you feed your spider a natural diet if you could?

I bet you're pro choice too.
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the cruelty comes with the choice of the human. the spider lives any way it can. it would eat you if it could, it cares not. you on the other hand make choices for it because you chose to own such a pet. you are responsible for its actions. it has nothing to do with cuteness, but whether an action was necessary to justify the cruelty. it clearly was not as there was a readily avaliable alternative. as for the natural diet... the spider is already in an unnatural situation. it has no need to catch food. its food has no where to run. and its not as if its going to die because its not being fed vitamin mouse. unless he's going to release it to the wild, the naturalness of something is pretty absurd.

and yes i'm pro choice. just as i see the difference between a mouse and a cricket, i see the difference between a human being an a fetus.. or cluster or cells:p
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I guess we just have different values then.
 
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0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its funny how you hear about people who abhor other people eating animals, when they themselves still eat meat... weird huh?
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that has nothing to do with this, unless you eat animals that were slowly clubbed to death.

And for the practicality of it all, the mouse was sold at a pet store for the specific purpose of food. If it were not my spider, it would have been another creature the mouse was fed to.
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that is the sh*ttiest justification for doing something bad ever.
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Wasn't a justification. It's just what would have happened. I fed the mouse to the spider because it needs to eat.

So should I kill the spider because it kills other creatures? Should I kill myself because I own such a creature? Should I kill the pet store because they sell such creatures? Should I kill every living thing on this planet because it has the potential to cause suffering to something else? Or should I whine on some skewed set of morals in a belief that nothing can ever be done with harming another?

As I said, its not about the suffering of the creature, its about how you feel. There is suffering and death in life of all types.
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no, but it was your choice to own such a pet that would require a steady supply of live animals as food. you then escalated it needlessly for your amusement. its one thing when a lab scientist feeds his animals live critters or a zoo keeper does as they atleast have reasons beyond that of their own amusement. you have limited power in the world, but one should do what they can to not do harm anyways.
 
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RaiderJ

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no, but it was your choice to own such a pet that would require a steady supply of live animals as food. you then escalated it needlessly for your amusement. its one thing when a lab scientist feeds his animals live critters or a zoo keeper does as they atleast have reasons beyond that of their own amusement. you have limited power in the world, but one should do what they can to not do harm anyways.
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You think lab scientists don't cause uncessessary harm to animals? If you think what my spider did to that mouse was cruel, you have yet to see what goes on in labs (or even vetinary schools).

So you are fine with "cruel" acts done in the name of research, but not those done to feed another? At least when my spider kills something and eats it, it is done to sustain it. Research has a much worse track record for its usefulness (and wastefulness).

It was my choice to own such a pet. It is life that organisms eat other organisms to survive. Do you eat meat? How much pain and cruelty is inflicted on animals that are farmed for food? If you don't eat meat, when a farmer harvests grain (or whatever), do you not think that animals (such as mice) are not killed or harmed in the process?
 
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zixxer

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Originally posted by: jinduy
thanks i was actually tilting towards the gamecube but now i'm just more confused. xbox modding seems easier than i thought after some further googling.
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total wrong thread

 
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RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Is there anything left of mickey once the spider is done?
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She's not quite done, but what is there is about the shoulders on up. What she's eaten just looked to be shrivled skin.
 
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0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
no, but it was your choice to own such a pet that would require a steady supply of live animals as food. you then escalated it needlessly for your amusement. its one thing when a lab scientist feeds his animals live critters or a zoo keeper does as they atleast have reasons beyond that of their own amusement. you have limited power in the world, but one should do what they can to not do harm anyways.
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You think lab scientists don't cause uncessessary harm to animals? If you think what my spider did to that mouse was cruel, you have yet to see what goes on in labs (or even vetinary schools).

So you are fine with "cruel" acts done in the name of research, but not those done to feed another? At least when my spider kills something and eats it, it is done to sustain it. Research has a much worse track record for its usefulness (and wastefulness).

It was my choice to own such a pet. It is life that organisms eat other organisms to survive. Do you eat meat? How much pain and cruelty is inflicted on animals that are farmed for food? If you don't eat meat, when a farmer harvests grain (or whatever), do you not think that animals (such as mice) are not killed or harmed in the process?
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actually i do think that most lab scientists do not spend their time torturing animals for no reason. if you think otherwise you've been to a few too many peta rallies.

and if your saying your better then the very very very worst evil mad scientist...thats setting a wonderfully low standard of behavior for yourself:p
 
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MisterJackson

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My boss has a Tarantula in his office and I have my Scorpions in mine. Others in the office are trying to set up a pit fight between the two, but that wouldn't be fair to the spider:).
 
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Ilmater

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: blurredvision
LOL. Am I the only one who laughed through watching this? :D I think it was the music that was funny.
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The music is what got to me :D
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name of music please

:D
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Jesus you unclutured bastards. It's Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, and it's the best classical music song ever composed (IMO, of course).

Edit: Whoops, two posts down and I would have noticed the responses. Oh well.

And OP, you had better watch for PETA when they raid your house to "free the oppressed mice!"
 
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Finalnight

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Originally posted by: jinduy
thanks i was actually tilting towards the gamecube but now i'm just more confused. xbox modding seems easier than i thought after some further googling.
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wow....
 
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RaiderJ

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actually i do think that most lab scientists do not spend their time torturing animals for no reason. if you think otherwise you've been to a few too many peta rallies.

and if your saying your better then the very very very worst evil mad scientist...thats setting a wonderfully low standard of behavior for yourself:p
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So you disapprove of me feeding the mouse to the spider because it's "unnatural", yet you're fine with scientists research done on mice? Sheesh, spiders EAT mice. No different than me feeding it crickets. I didn't torture the mouse. I couldn't have "humanely" killed the mouse before feeding it to the spider, otherwise she wouldn't have eaten it. What was I supposed to do, give it a lethal injection?

Your logic is completely backwards. You disagree with feeding the spider a mouse, yet approve of animal research and abortion. Maybe I should start feeding my spider aborted fetuses?
 
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SchrodingersDog

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At what point is the mouse death despicable and why? Is it because it's a young mouse? Would killing it two seconds before it would have died of old age made it better? Or is it the suffering - should be mouse die from cancer after a long rewarding mouse life and then become food?

A lot of this opinion is regionaly based. I happen to live in the US, so I've never had the opportunity to munch on a puppy, while in plenty of other countries it's a common practice. Not as common these days, but humans sometimes even eat humans, I have an old friend from Papua New Guinea that ate some tribesmen from a neighboring village when he was a boy. I doubt their cultural sensibilities would cause them to feel for the mouse. I have as much respect for the sanctity of life as the next guy, but I also know that the purpose of life is to replicate and die. Since humans became self-aware we've tended to complicate things a bit, but it doesn't change the fact that the mouse, the spider and the lot of us were designed to either eat or be eaten, and anything other than that added into the equation is just your pesky higher brain unnecessarily meddling in what has gone on all over the planet since the first form of life had the misfortune of meeting the second.
 
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