Fed a mouse to my spider! **VIDEO**

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OulOat

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

I don't get what's the big deal. People kill mice and rats all the time. People even make a living killing mice and rats.
 

BuckNaked

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.
Maybe you should tell the tarantula that... I am sure he would go on a hunger strike to make you happy...
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

Would you rather have the spider starve?

- M4H


thats a false choice. he had a lesser food source and u know it.

I don't get what's the big deal. People kill mice and rats all the time. People even make a living killing mice and rats.


the reasoning behind and necessity of an action makes all the difference. people die violently all the time, in wars, on the street, whereever. mind me killing you because of your post?
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: ifesfor
RaiderJ, you are just a cruel human being.

Shame on you.



You know that spiders eat mice and birds and little lizards in the wild, right?

thats out of your hands though. when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him. and so he's responsible for his direct actions that result in unecessary cruelty, not something to be proud of.

and i really wouldn't use that "it happens in the wild" arguement to justify anything. a great many cruelties occur in the wild. would allow u to justify most any kind of evil.

I was also verbally abusive to the mouse.

:laugh: LOL
 
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

Would you rather have the spider starve?

- M4H


thats a false choice. he had a lesser food source and u know it.

I don't get what's the big deal. People kill mice and rats all the time. People even make a living killing mice and rats.


the reasoning behind and necessity of an action makes all the difference. people die violently all the time, in wars, on the street, whereever. mind me killing you because of your post?

As I've said - sucks being lower on the food chain, doesn't it?

- M4H
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

Would you rather have the spider starve?

- M4H


thats a false choice. he had a lesser food source and u know it.

I don't get what's the big deal. People kill mice and rats all the time. People even make a living killing mice and rats.


the reasoning behind and necessity of an action makes all the difference. people die violently all the time, in wars, on the street, whereever. mind me killing you because of your post?

As I've said - sucks being lower on the food chain, doesn't it?

- M4H

indeed.

dinner time
*goes back to dragging lamb behind truck...damn things take forever to die.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

Would you rather have the spider starve?

- M4H


thats a false choice. he had a lesser food source and u know it.

I don't get what's the big deal. People kill mice and rats all the time. People even make a living killing mice and rats.


the reasoning behind and necessity of an action makes all the difference. people die violently all the time, in wars, on the street, whereever. mind me killing you because of your post?

As I've said - sucks being lower on the food chain, doesn't it?

- M4H

indeed.

dinner time
*goes back to dragging lamb behind truck...damn things take forever to die.

mmmm.....lamb chops :D
 
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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

Would you rather have the spider starve?

- M4H


thats a false choice. he had a lesser food source and u know it.

I don't get what's the big deal. People kill mice and rats all the time. People even make a living killing mice and rats.


the reasoning behind and necessity of an action makes all the difference. people die violently all the time, in wars, on the street, whereever. mind me killing you because of your post?

As I've said - sucks being lower on the food chain, doesn't it?

- M4H

indeed.

dinner time
*goes back to dragging lamb behind truck...damn things take forever to die.

mmmm.....lamb chops :D

And it's already tenderized too. Good idea 0roo, I'll mention it to everyone I know and make sure to give you credit for it!

- M4H
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: ifesfor
RaiderJ, you are just a cruel human being.

Shame on you.



You know that spiders eat mice and birds and little lizards in the wild, right?

thats out of your hands though. when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him. and so he's responsible for his direct actions that result in unecessary cruelty, not something to be proud of.

and i really wouldn't use that "it happens in the wild" arguement to justify anything. a great many cruelties occur in the wild. would allow u to justify most any kind of evil.



That's not cruel and it's not evil. That's the way a spider lives. The mouse would have eaten the spider if it had the chance. It only bothers you because the mouse is cuter than the spider. Why wouldn't you feed your spider a natural diet if you could?

I bet you're pro choice too.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?:p

when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.

Or is it because you can more easily identify with the mouse's suffering instead of the crickets?

Something as foreign as a cricket is really hard to sympathize with, even when eaten by something as grotesque as the spider. However, when a mouse is used as food, it changes things... would you feel the same way about a mouse eating a spider, if it were to happen?

So in reality, it's really not about the mouse's larger more complex brain, or even the necessity of it (spiders DO have to eat), it's all about how it makes you feel - uncomfortable.

And for the practicality of it all, the mouse was sold at a pet store for the specific purpose of food. If it were not my spider, it would have been another creature the mouse was fed to.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Originally posted by: ifesfor
RaiderJ, you are just a cruel human being.

Shame on you.



You know that spiders eat mice and birds and little lizards in the wild, right?

thats out of your hands though. when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him. and so he's responsible for his direct actions that result in unecessary cruelty, not something to be proud of.

and i really wouldn't use that "it happens in the wild" arguement to justify anything. a great many cruelties occur in the wild. would allow u to justify most any kind of evil.



That's not cruel and it's not evil. That's the way a spider lives. The mouse would have eaten the spider if it had the chance. It only bothers you because the mouse is cuter than the spider. Why wouldn't you feed your spider a natural diet if you could?

I bet you're pro choice too.

the cruelty comes with the choice of the human. the spider lives any way it can. it would eat you if it could, it cares not. you on the other hand make choices for it because you chose to own such a pet. you are responsible for its actions. it has nothing to do with cuteness, but whether an action was necessary to justify the cruelty. it clearly was not as there was a readily avaliable alternative. as for the natural diet... the spider is already in an unnatural situation. it has no need to catch food. its food has no where to run. and its not as if its going to die because its not being fed vitamin mouse. unless he's going to release it to the wild, the naturalness of something is pretty absurd.

and yes i'm pro choice. just as i see the difference between a mouse and a cricket, i see the difference between a human being an a fetus.. or cluster or cells:p

 

Kasper4christ

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amen :p

its funny how you hear about people who abhor other people eating animals, when they themselves still eat meat... weird huh?
 

BuckNaked

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Considering all the death and human suffering through the ages due to rodent born or hosted diseases, I really don't have much sympathy for the things....
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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its funny how you hear about people who abhor other people eating animals, when they themselves still eat meat... weird huh?

that has nothing to do with this, unless you eat animals that were slowly clubbed to death.

And for the practicality of it all, the mouse was sold at a pet store for the specific purpose of food. If it were not my spider, it would have been another creature the mouse was fed to.

that is the sh*ttiest justification for doing something bad ever.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its funny how you hear about people who abhor other people eating animals, when they themselves still eat meat... weird huh?

that has nothing to do with this, unless you eat animals that were slowly clubbed to death.
Don't know much about the meat industry, do you?

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and yes i'm pro choice. just as i see the difference between a mouse and a cricket, i see the difference between a human being an a fetus.. or cluster or cells:p

The difference you saw between a mouse and a cricket was a larger brain and more complex nervous system. Not to open a can of worms, but unless you draw the line earlier in the pregnancy than most pro-choice people, a fetus has plenty of both.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its funny how you hear about people who abhor other people eating animals, when they themselves still eat meat... weird huh?

that has nothing to do with this, unless you eat animals that were slowly clubbed to death.

And for the practicality of it all, the mouse was sold at a pet store for the specific purpose of food. If it were not my spider, it would have been another creature the mouse was fed to.

that is the sh*ttiest justification for doing something bad ever.

Wasn't a justification. It's just what would have happened. I fed the mouse to the spider because it needs to eat.

So should I kill the spider because it kills other creatures? Should I kill myself because I own such a creature? Should I kill the pet store because they sell such creatures? Should I kill every living thing on this planet because it has the potential to cause suffering to something else? Or should I whine on some skewed set of morals in a belief that nothing can ever be done with harming another?

As I said, its not about the suffering of the creature, its about how you feel. There is suffering and death in life of all types.
 

Descartes

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I'm not sure I like the use of Beethoven's 14th Piano Sonata as some additional sensory value in a macabre experience, but otherwise a nice video :)

 

jinduy

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thanks i was actually tilting towards the gamecube but now i'm just more confused. xbox modding seems easier than i thought after some further googling.