Originally posted by: ATLien247
Can we feed 0roo0roo to the spider next? Please?
i agree. it sure would cut down on the stupid arguing.
0roo0roo
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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its a reasonable assumption. either you're a sadistic cruel bastard that wouldn't care if i did basah puppy skulls in, or a vegan. based on your post i doubt you're either
i don't eat them alive.
Assume whatever you want, your arguments makes 0 sense.
Someone has to kill what you eat, the fact that you didn't do it, or witness it makes no difference to the animal. To quote, "when you make an uncessary choice that causes suffering, your responsible. no one forced him," you are making unneceary choices in eating meat. Did you really believe that when a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to hear it, that it doesn't make a sound? OK... Back to reality...
You cannot justify the statements you have made in this thread with your lifestyle, so I guess your a hypocrit.
Edit: Worse than that, people are spelling it out to you, and you don't even care to listen. You just keep trying to justify yourself... :roll:
i was too kind perhaps when i assumed.
and zero sense? why don't zoo keepers just toss live deer or if thats too difficult live cows into lion cages? its "natural" and probably rather amusing for the lion eh? well... by your logic, obviously because the zookeepers are all vegans
u can shutup about not being able to justify statements when all you do is try to divert attention from your sh*tty arguements by nitpicking grammer on a net forum.
as for raider, the link between thumb rings and being an asshat has never been so clear. a little twit who thinks he's hardcore making small animals suffer for his amusement.
Do you eat meat? Fish? Eggs?
Have you ever fumigated your home?
Allowed radiator coolant to splash on the ground?
Oil?
Worn leather?
Fur?
Used a natural sponge?
Kept an aquarium?
Dog?
Cat?
Ferret?
If you answered yes to any of the above questions, your comments regarding providing a living creature with food are invalid.
Have a nice day!
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and zero sense? why don't zoo keepers just toss live deer or if thats too difficult live cows into lion cages? its "natural" and probably rather amusing for the lion eh? well... by your logic, obviously because the zookeepers are all vegans
u can shutup about not being able to justify statements when all you do is try to divert attention from your sh*tty arguements by nitpicking grammer on a net forum.
as for raider, the link between thumb rings and being an asshat has never been so clear. a little twit who thinks he's hardcore making small animals suffer for his amusement.
Are you serious? There are numerous reasons why a zookeeper wouldn't feed live deer to a lion. The two most fundamental reasons being monetary cost and convenience, perhaps safety even. However, of those numerous reasons, I'm sure that cruelty to animals is absent from the list.
What's so different about feeding crickets to the spider as opposed to a mouse? Don't those poor, defenseless crickets have feelings too? Don't you care, you brute?
i cant view the video!!!!...waaaa...it wants a network password or sumfin (might be my works computers system, will check again when im home)
i dont have a problem with feeding a mouse to a spider, my ball-less cat catches mice by the dozen and happily thwaps them around the garden for an hour or so, then brings them in the house still alive (but somewhat disorientated...lol) and they run behind the cooker, where they gets rather toasty, then scurry out to get away and get caught again by the cat and invariably lose their heads (or sometimes he eats the back end) and i find the rest left on the floor in the morning. So in comparison the spider is actually being rather sporting by paralyzing the mouse first with poison.....
altho i have to say (will post a pic if i ever get one) the mice do fight back...hehe, one sat on a springy bush in the back garden once and the cat just couldnt get near it cuz it wouldnt quite support his weight, and also sometimes when they are sitting on the lawn the mice sits up on his hind quarters and goes to bite my cats nose.....cracks me up that does.....
i dont have a problem with feeding a mouse to a spider, my ball-less cat catches mice by the dozen and happily thwaps them around the garden for an hour or so, then brings them in the house still alive (but somewhat disorientated...lol) and they run behind the cooker, where they gets rather toasty, then scurry out to get away and get caught again by the cat and invariably lose their heads (or sometimes he eats the back end) and i find the rest left on the floor in the morning. So in comparison the spider is actually being rather sporting by paralyzing the mouse first with poison.....
altho i have to say (will post a pic if i ever get one) the mice do fight back...hehe, one sat on a springy bush in the back garden once and the cat just couldnt get near it cuz it wouldnt quite support his weight, and also sometimes when they are sitting on the lawn the mice sits up on his hind quarters and goes to bite my cats nose.....cracks me up that does.....
PHuck!
Did you hear that mouse squeek when the spider jumped it?! Damn - and the look on it's face as the spider was doing *something* to it
>>> poor mouse
>>> but that's nature for you
Nice video editing work BTW - good stuff - thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
Did you hear that mouse squeek when the spider jumped it?! Damn - and the look on it's face as the spider was doing *something* to it
>>> poor mouse
>>> but that's nature for you
Nice video editing work BTW - good stuff - thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
if you agree that world war 2 had to be fought, you have no right to stand against the holocaust.
1) You can't feed dead mice/crickets to a spider, they won't eat them. Gotta have some movement to trigger them.
2) You're (stupidly) opening up a whole other can of beans by talking about the holocaust. Please start your own thread. Actually, just PM yourself instead. No one cares.
0roo0roo
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well callous nitwits like you obviously don't care, there are plenty of us that do. i never said you shouldn't feed it crickets. as i said, you should do no more harm than necessary. and since you chose that pet and are responsible for it, you must give it live crickets as it will not eat otherwise.
its why i brought up my zoo example. lions do indeed eat dead meat. thats one good reason they don't bother feeding live animals to the lions, even if it would amuse the lions and or the zoo guests.
and the can of worms was a valid example.
its why i brought up my zoo example. lions do indeed eat dead meat. thats one good reason they don't bother feeding live animals to the lions, even if it would amuse the lions and or the zoo guests.
and the can of worms was a valid example.
Gothgar
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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
if you agree that world war 2 had to be fought, you have no right to stand against the holocaust.
1) You can't feed dead mice/crickets to a spider, they won't eat them. Gotta have some movement to trigger them.
2) You're (stupidly) opening up a whole other can of beans by talking about the holocaust. Please start your own thread. Actually, just PM yourself instead. No one cares.
oroo, you need to just shut up, all I have seen is pwnage after pwnage of you, no one here agrees with your crappy philosophies, I don't know if you are a PETA member or something, but so you know, PETA is retarded
edit: furthermore, why is it okay to feed the spider live crickets but not live mice?
I figure 1 mouse = 8 crickets. So by feeding it a mouse, I've saved 8 crickets from harm. If math serves me correctly, 8>1. How many crickets do you think equal one mouse? Or do you have a number? Try this: how many human fetuses make up one cricket/mouse?
Phoenix86
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You keep bringing up a bunch of crap, like beating puppies and the holocaust, because you can't answer my simple question. How do you justify you eating meat when you could obviously to less harm then necessary by being a vegan?
I'm not nitpicking grammer, I'm arguing your words against logic, which escapes you. Your the one diverting attention with your holocaust BS.
You are a hypocrit who expects others to do has you say, not as you do. Now, STFU.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
more complex nervous system? larger brain?
when it all comes down to it, it was completely unecessary.
Would you rather have the spider starve?
- M4H
thats a false choice. he had a lesser food source and u know it.
Woah woah woah....
so by that reasoning people should only eat plants? beccasue our food might suffer when killed?
Screw that give me the FVCKING COW alive ill fry that whole bitch up on the BBQ... you didnt grow up in the country I'd guess.. or your a little pansey ass Vegan homo...
PS you guys havent seen crap till you seen a Nile Monitor bash its live mouse side to side against the glass of the tank or the rock in its cage till the mouse's head hemmorages...
Or when my Burmese Python hits a RAT (10 inches 3 at a feeding) and makes its eyes pop out from the pressure...
nature hurts.... its natural even us Humans are an Apex predator we eat meat... we kill for food... how do you think that steak gets to the grocery store...
someone has to put a bullet through a cows brain and cut it into little bitty pieces...
GET OVER IT...
the reasoning behind and necessity of an action makes all the difference. people die violently all the time, in wars, on the street, whereever. mind me killing you because of your post?
Phoenix86
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This thread reminds me of that parent swapping show on FOX my wife likes. There was a vegan family from California and a crocodile farmer from Lousiana. There was a lot of conflict, as you can imagine. In the end the vegan mother ate gator after preaching about how cruel it is. The other mother was also preached to by the family and neighbors. They were telling her about how they catch and release everything, including flies. They were chastizing her for killing poisionous snakes, instead of releasing them in the swamps. When she asked them what they do with the black widows (common to CA), they said 'umm.... we kill them because they could hurt our kids' or something to the effect...
HAHAHAHA, such similar ownage to this thread....
0roo, just keep on preaching how others should "lessen suffering" while you choose not to.
HAHAHAHA, such similar ownage to this thread....
0roo, just keep on preaching how others should "lessen suffering" while you choose not to.
i saw that show and that vegan lady and her familiy were a bunch of stupid morons...i did enjoy the lil cajun boy tellign her she was fired though
Phoenix86
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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
i saw that show and that vegan lady and her familiy were a bunch of stupid morons...i did enjoy the lil cajun boy tellign her she was fired though
"let me put it like this....
your FIRED!"
LMAO. Classic. I also like his response to eating "healty," something to the effect of 'the good lord will take me when it's time.' HAHAHA, STFU preaching b!tch, sucks to be owned by a kid on national T.V. huh?
"monkies" HAHAHAHA!!!
0roo0roo
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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
if you agree that world war 2 had to be fought, you have no right to stand against the holocaust.
1) You can't feed dead mice/crickets to a spider, they won't eat them. Gotta have some movement to trigger them.
2) You're (stupidly) opening up a whole other can of beans by talking about the holocaust. Please start your own thread. Actually, just PM yourself instead. No one cares.
oroo, you need to just shut up, all I have seen is pwnage after pwnage of you, no one here agrees with your crappy philosophies, I don't know if you are a PETA member or something, but so you know, PETA is retarded
edit: furthermore, why is it okay to feed the spider live crickets but not live mice?
pwnage? i thinks not. why is it ok? because the spider will die if not fed. which is why i never once posted asking for humanely slaughtered crickets as feed you twit. he has no choice.
wow, thats some logic there. i guess i should start eating humans instead of chickens. all that matter are numbers, all other factors are irrelevant.
i didn't make an arguement for zero harm. you probably didn't bother reading my posts and only read the skewed and illogical responses. i made an arguement for limiting cruelty, avoiding it when possible. i never once said he shouldn't feed it live crickets, because it needs to eat and cannot eat humanely killed crickets. i eat farmed meat. i don't choose to beat a cow to death and stick needles in its eyes as it slowly dies just so i can eat it. theres a difference.
logic? you're the one who thinks that if one eats meat one has no right to stand against cruel treatment of animals? you call that logic? by that logic i could burn a puppy to death and if you objected and ate meat you could say nothing. and so with the same logic, a stance supporting the killing of human beings in war(ww2) nullifies your ability to stand against the holocaust(also the killing of human beings). does your stand make sense? is there logic? of course not. its also very familiar. oh yes, it the same bullsh*t logic suicide bombers and terrorists use to kill civilians. so stfu indeed!
Fine, so you're for limiting cruelty - I think everyone can agree to that. I don't think ANYONE is for blantant animal cruelty/torture. But I still don't see how me feeding the mouse to the spider was cruel. I'm sure it didn't have the most pleasant death (does anything?), but I certainly didn't inflict any extraneous pain onto the mouse before I gave it to the spider.
The mouse was given to the spider AS FOOD, but it is darn interesting/entertaining to watch the spider kill the mouse. Heck, I would have videotaped the spider eating the mouse, but a 24 hour video of that would have become boring pretty quick.
If your argument for using crickets instead of mice is that they are "lesser" animals, how then can you support abortion? Talk about uneccessary cruelty, pregnancy is definitely avoidable (in most cases), and therefore abortion as birth control is very much cruel.
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Fusken city boys...
That mouse was owned. BTW you guys can't come dove hunting with me. Have to grab body with one hand and use the other to rip thier heads off for the ones that the shot did'nt kill (about 50%). Hey it's humane and stops thier suffering.
That mouse was owned. BTW you guys can't come dove hunting with me. Have to grab body with one hand and use the other to rip thier heads off for the ones that the shot did'nt kill (about 50%). Hey it's humane and stops thier suffering.
0roo0roo, an honest question.
Why is it alright for a bunch of crickets to suffer, but not alright for one mouse to suffer? Are you saying the crickets suffer any less then the mouse? Cause I'd have to say being ripped apart in the jaws of a spider probably sucks as much as being killed by the venom of one.
I just want to know why you identity it as "less suffering" for a bunch of crickets to die compared to one mouse.
Why is it alright for a bunch of crickets to suffer, but not alright for one mouse to suffer? Are you saying the crickets suffer any less then the mouse? Cause I'd have to say being ripped apart in the jaws of a spider probably sucks as much as being killed by the venom of one.
I just want to know why you identity it as "less suffering" for a bunch of crickets to die compared to one mouse.
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