Fed a mouse to my spider! **VIDEO**

[RaiderJ]

RaiderJ, I disliked the fact that you videotaped the death of the mouse for the entertainment of others. I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh. However, we don't need to enjoy this fact like it's saturday morning cartoons. I can't question the methods you used to feed the spider because frankly I don't know enough about them. But videotaping it and showing it to everybody as something "cool" makes me sick. One creature's death to feed another shouldn't be paraded around. It should be treated with a degree of solemnity that you didn't display.

This is why I hate those damn hunting shows that show them offing deer or birds as if they were just shooting at cardboard targets. "Yeah, look at the ANTLERS on THOSE. Man I can't wait to get it MOUNTED."

As far as what OrooOroo was talking about, I don't differentiate between any creatures. I've seen my fair share of little kids torturing insects and other animals and it makes me want to beat the crap out of them (the kids).

And before anyone starts accusing me of any kind of hypocrisy, I am vegetarian. The closest thing I eat to meat is eggs.

Just because pain is a fact of life, doesn't mean we have to exploit it for amusement.

I did find it "cool" and "interesting" to watch the spider eat the mouse, but the mouse wouldn't have suffered any less were I to not have videotaped the event. It wasn't like I videotaped some mouse snuff video as much as a spider eating video. I had tried to tape her eating a cricket, but my stupid hands were in the way.

I don't find anything wrong with hunting, when those hunters eat what they kill. I think you misunderstand the point of keeping trophies - it's not to say "look at me, I can kill things with a gun from hundreds of feet away", but more like having a souvineer from the experience.

Having a pet spider has been much more of a learning experience for me, than say having a fish - it's really quite amazing how they eat, molt, etc. If you look at my previous post where I showed pictures of the spider's molt, it's obvious that my interest in the creature wasn't just to feed it mice and record it.

I'm sick of defending my FEEDING OF A PET. Sheesh. No one bitches when my dog eats some Purina with dead animal parts (even if I video taped it), but feed a spider, and MAN.... I'll just skip everything else and feed her clubbed baby seal from now on.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

RaiderJ, I disliked the fact that you videotaped the death of the mouse for the entertainment of others. I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh. However, we don't need to enjoy this fact like it's saturday morning cartoons. I can't question the methods you used to feed the spider because frankly I don't know enough about them. But videotaping it and showing it to everybody as something "cool" makes me sick. One creature's death to feed another shouldn't be paraded around. It should be treated with a degree of solemnity that you didn't display.

This is why I hate those damn hunting shows that show them offing deer or birds as if they were just shooting at cardboard targets. "Yeah, look at the ANTLERS on THOSE. Man I can't wait to get it MOUNTED."

As far as what OrooOroo was talking about, I don't differentiate between any creatures. I've seen my fair share of little kids torturing insects and other animals and it makes me want to beat the crap out of them (the kids).

And before anyone starts accusing me of any kind of hypocrisy, I am vegetarian. The closest thing I eat to meat is eggs.

Just because pain is a fact of life, doesn't mean we have to exploit it for amusement.

Are you some sort of "animal rights" guy who believes that the world would be better without people or something? Yes, there should be some sort of control on things so that we don't cause the extinction of species, but there are MILLIONS of mice around, and mice are PESTS. One mouse isn't anything to get all mad about. And deer? There are too many of them around due to crazy limits set up. I mean, the deer should be out in rural areas, but I am seeing more and more "deer crossing" signs IN CITY LIMITS. So they need to be thinned out some too.
Besides, the tarantula has to eat, and feeding it a mouse that would be a pest is a good way to ditch the pest and feed the pet. Just because he recorded it doesn't mean the mouse suffered any more.
OK, to put it simply - If you don't want to hunt, if you want to be a vegetarian, go ahead. But don't force your ideas on the rest of us please.

Cool video RaiderJ - Maybe if I find a mouse in the house I'll send it to you as tarantula fodder

 

[biostud]

It's just like Discovery homevideos

 

[ThePresence]

Man that spider moves fast.

 

[Regs]

Sorry for putting it like this, but that looked like an Animal Snuff film.

 

[MisfitsFiend]

squeak...squeak...

 

[gururu]

if it happens in nature, so should it in the tank.

 

[RaiderJ]

And where was everyone who complained about the mouse when the spider was molting? If you see those pictures, it's obvious that it could not be a pleasant experience for the animal (it didn't eat for a month before it molted). It's just as natural for the spider to eat something....

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

Originally posted by: RaiderJ

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yup. the cricket just gets annihliated. the baby mouse just gets mauled

as for abortion, its an entirely different thing. neither a baby mouse of a spider uses your body for its life support or growth. and the rights of a scentient woman are no where in the equation.

and durokshark wouldn't be able to say anything about it anyways, since he'd be a hipocrite being a meat eater and all atleast by his logic.

Not true, I've seen crickets twitch their legs for a bit after the spider gets them. I think we look at the mouse as having a greater capacity to feel pain, but honestly how does anyone know? I still don't think I was being cruel feeding my spider.

Also, let not forget the biological reasons for pain (cause of suffering), to give a creature incentive for continuing its life! That's just how nature works.

Abortion as birth control is different that it being done to save the life of the mother. Done for medical reasons I'm fine with, but simply to avoid having a child I think is disgraceful. I do however agree that a women should be able to do with her body what she wants, but just like not showering, abortion is disgusting.

RaiderJ, I disliked the fact that you videotaped the death of the mouse for the entertainment of others. I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh. However, we don't need to enjoy this fact like it's saturday morning cartoons. I can't question the methods you used to feed the spider because frankly I don't know enough about them. But videotaping it and showing it to everybody as something "cool" makes me sick. One creature's death to feed another shouldn't be paraded around. It should be treated with a degree of solemnity that you didn't display.

This is why I hate those damn hunting shows that show them offing deer or birds as if they were just shooting at cardboard targets. "Yeah, look at the ANTLERS on THOSE. Man I can't wait to get it MOUNTED."

As far as what OrooOroo was talking about, I don't differentiate between any creatures. I've seen my fair share of little kids torturing insects and other animals and it makes me want to beat the crap out of them (the kids).

And before anyone starts accusing me of any kind of hypocrisy, I am vegetarian. The closest thing I eat to meat is eggs.

Just because pain is a fact of life, doesn't mean we have to exploit it for amusement.

OMFG get the hell over yourself..
I guess you dont like Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, or national geographic or any other network or show that shows nature..

Filming this spider EATING is not different than Filming poeple eating a meal..
this is how the freaking spider eats... this is natural....

guess if it were up to you youd cart off all the meat eating animals and humans and ship them to mars so all your furry little freinds would never be at risk...
along with all the REAL Humans that eat what we are supposed to eat instead of being a fvcking Vegan Pansey.. because god forbid i might want to kill a cow and have a steak for dinner..

I may be a die hard person when it comes to animal rights and thier right to not be driven from thier homes or hunted to exticntion by humans... BUT feeding your animals live food becasue some exotic pets actually do better on live food is NOT the issue..

I personally had a 15 foot long Burmese Python.. when I got him he was eating 3 rats a month...
by the time he got to 15 feet he was eating 5 live chickens a month...
he wouldnt eat them dead I could never get this snake to take dead prey... he wanted live food...
so Im sure as hell gonna give him what he wants..

 

[JetsFanatic]

KEWL!

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

Dude, when you put the mouse in there, weren't you afraid of getting bit on your hand? You got pretty close to it.

 

[forumJunkie]

holy crap that was fast.... feel bad for that mouse

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

That was awsome never seen anything like that

 

[Taejin]

RaiderJ
I really enjoyed your video of the spider. I've enjoyed all your pictures and descriptions of your experience detailing the tarantula. If I were allowed to, I think I would get one too (I live in a dorm).

I honestly believe you had no sadistic intent in feeding the mouse to the tarantula. I find myself disgusted by the thoughtless little peaceniks posting on this thread who would have us eat nothing but tofurkey and grass for the rest of our miserable lives.

I know the meat I eat are from animals that suffer, but I'll be damned if I don't enjoy my meat. It is ridiculous that you're even whining about the suffering the mouse underwent when the fact that you eat, breathe, live and purchase products from this society. Everything that we do and that industrialization produces has SOME adverse effect that hurts some living being somewhere, and you're all the more of a hypocrite for even having access to a computer.


Anways, RaiderJ, your posts are very interesting and informative - I've always wanted to be an entymologist, but alas I find myself in biochemistry .

Taejin

 

[Taejin]

Also, everyone should notice how most people in this thread don't say:

OMG I GOT OFF WATCHING THAT MOUSE DIE LOL HAHAHA LOOK AT THAT DUMB LITTLE MAMMALIAN B*TCH GET SLAUGHTERED.


They say: wow! That's pretty interesting!

or they ask more questions about the tarantula. Stop blowing things out of proportion and go talk to your vegetarian friends about the horrible injustices of this thing we call life.

 

[gamefreakgcb]

I personally had a 15 foot long Burmese Python.. when I got him he was eating 3 rats a month...
by the time he got to 15 feet he was eating 5 live chickens a month...
he wouldnt eat them dead I could never get this snake to take dead prey... he wanted live food...
so Im sure as hell gonna give him what he wants..

Dude I wanna see your puthon. How bout him wrapped around you

 

[DeMeo]

I fed a spider to my mouse, but I have no video of it.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Dude, when you put the mouse in there, weren't you afraid of getting bit on your hand? You got pretty close to it.

Nope, not worried at all. She's never been aggressive towards me, and will even let me pick her up and will lay on her "back" in my hand (let's you get a good close up look of her fangs & lungs).

Somehow she can tell the difference between food & my fingers... no idea how though, it is my understanding that she is basically blind and deaf. I can tap the ground around her, nudge her, etc, and it doesn't really seem to bother her. However, if I drop a cricket in and she's hungry, it hardly even has a chance to turn over before she attacks it. Maybe all those hairs on her body help her out?

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: DeMeo
I fed a spider to my mouse, but I have no video of it.

hehe

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: Taejin
RaiderJ
I really enjoyed your video of the spider. I've enjoyed all your pictures and descriptions of your experience detailing the tarantula. If I were allowed to, I think I would get one too (I live in a dorm).

I honestly believe you had no sadistic intent in feeding the mouse to the tarantula. I find myself disgusted by the thoughtless little peaceniks posting on this thread who would have us eat nothing but tofurkey and grass for the rest of our miserable lives.

I know the meat I eat are from animals that suffer, but I'll be damned if I don't enjoy my meat. It is ridiculous that you're even whining about the suffering the mouse underwent when the fact that you eat, breathe, live and purchase products from this society. Everything that we do and that industrialization produces has SOME adverse effect that hurts some living being somewhere, and you're all the more of a hypocrite for even having access to a computer.


Anways, RaiderJ, your posts are very interesting and informative - I've always wanted to be an entymologist, but alas I find myself in biochemistry .

Taejin

Thanks for the positive feedback, it's good to know not everyone thinks I'm a sadistic freak.

For a easy to take care of pet, tarantulas are great. I would very much recommend the Chaco Golden Knee as a great beginner taranula since they are very docile, get to be fairly big (~8"), and can be easily cared for.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

Originally posted by: RaiderJ

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yup. the cricket just gets annihliated. the baby mouse just gets mauled

as for abortion, its an entirely different thing. neither a baby mouse of a spider uses your body for its life support or growth. and the rights of a scentient woman are no where in the equation.

and durokshark wouldn't be able to say anything about it anyways, since he'd be a hipocrite being a meat eater and all atleast by his logic.

Not true, I've seen crickets twitch their legs for a bit after the spider gets them. I think we look at the mouse as having a greater capacity to feel pain, but honestly how does anyone know? I still don't think I was being cruel feeding my spider.

Also, let not forget the biological reasons for pain (cause of suffering), to give a creature incentive for continuing its life! That's just how nature works.

Abortion as birth control is different that it being done to save the life of the mother. Done for medical reasons I'm fine with, but simply to avoid having a child I think is disgraceful. I do however agree that a women should be able to do with her body what she wants, but just like not showering, abortion is disgusting.

RaiderJ, I disliked the fact that you videotaped the death of the mouse for the entertainment of others. I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh. However, we don't need to enjoy this fact like it's saturday morning cartoons. I can't question the methods you used to feed the spider because frankly I don't know enough about them. But videotaping it and showing it to everybody as something "cool" makes me sick. One creature's death to feed another shouldn't be paraded around. It should be treated with a degree of solemnity that you didn't display.

This is why I hate those damn hunting shows that show them offing deer or birds as if they were just shooting at cardboard targets. "Yeah, look at the ANTLERS on THOSE. Man I can't wait to get it MOUNTED."

As far as what OrooOroo was talking about, I don't differentiate between any creatures. I've seen my fair share of little kids torturing insects and other animals and it makes me want to beat the crap out of them (the kids).

And before anyone starts accusing me of any kind of hypocrisy, I am vegetarian. The closest thing I eat to meat is eggs.

Just because pain is a fact of life, doesn't mean we have to exploit it for amusement.

You better start writing letters for every show on the discovery channel.

 

[Connoisseur]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

Originally posted by: RaiderJ

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yup. the cricket just gets annihliated. the baby mouse just gets mauled

as for abortion, its an entirely different thing. neither a baby mouse of a spider uses your body for its life support or growth. and the rights of a scentient woman are no where in the equation.

and durokshark wouldn't be able to say anything about it anyways, since he'd be a hipocrite being a meat eater and all atleast by his logic.

Not true, I've seen crickets twitch their legs for a bit after the spider gets them. I think we look at the mouse as having a greater capacity to feel pain, but honestly how does anyone know? I still don't think I was being cruel feeding my spider.

Also, let not forget the biological reasons for pain (cause of suffering), to give a creature incentive for continuing its life! That's just how nature works.

Abortion as birth control is different that it being done to save the life of the mother. Done for medical reasons I'm fine with, but simply to avoid having a child I think is disgraceful. I do however agree that a women should be able to do with her body what she wants, but just like not showering, abortion is disgusting.

RaiderJ, I disliked the fact that you videotaped the death of the mouse for the entertainment of others. I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh. However, we don't need to enjoy this fact like it's saturday morning cartoons. I can't question the methods you used to feed the spider because frankly I don't know enough about them. But videotaping it and showing it to everybody as something "cool" makes me sick. One creature's death to feed another shouldn't be paraded around. It should be treated with a degree of solemnity that you didn't display.

This is why I hate those damn hunting shows that show them offing deer or birds as if they were just shooting at cardboard targets. "Yeah, look at the ANTLERS on THOSE. Man I can't wait to get it MOUNTED."

As far as what OrooOroo was talking about, I don't differentiate between any creatures. I've seen my fair share of little kids torturing insects and other animals and it makes me want to beat the crap out of them (the kids).

And before anyone starts accusing me of any kind of hypocrisy, I am vegetarian. The closest thing I eat to meat is eggs.

Just because pain is a fact of life, doesn't mean we have to exploit it for amusement.

You better start writing letters for every show on the discovery channel.

I don't know why people think I'm FORCING my views on them just because I'm passionate about a topic. In either case, I understand the need to feed live prey to certain animals and there's nothing I can do about that. I just find it disturbing that so many people find it entertaining. And no, I don't care if people eat meat. Only reason I can't stand it is I can't personally get over the thought that the animals are butchered in a very nasty way. Once again, people jump the gun without fully reading posts. I said: "I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh." I don't want to force everyone to eat tofu. I merely stated that I think it's sick that people find this a form of entertainment. And I dislike the "there are billions of mice in the world. one won't matter" argument. So? There are billions of people in the world. You saying one death doesn't matter? How about 10 deaths? How about a million? I dislike quantifying life.

 

[Carnage4]

(See below - double post)

 

[Carnage4]

quote:

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Originally posted by: Connoisseur

RaiderJ, I disliked the fact that you videotaped the death of the mouse for the entertainment of others. I understand that animals need to eat and a lot of time the methods that they use are harsh. However, we don't need to enjoy this fact like it's saturday morning cartoons. I can't question the methods you used to feed the spider because frankly I don't know enough about them. But videotaping it and showing it to everybody as something "cool" makes me sick. One creature's death to feed another shouldn't be paraded around. It should be treated with a degree of solemnity that you didn't display.

This is why I hate those damn hunting shows that show them offing deer or birds as if they were just shooting at cardboard targets. "Yeah, look at the ANTLERS on THOSE. Man I can't wait to get it MOUNTED."

As far as what OrooOroo was talking about, I don't differentiate between any creatures. I've seen my fair share of little kids torturing insects and other animals and it makes me want to beat the crap out of them (the kids).

And before anyone starts accusing me of any kind of hypocrisy, I am vegetarian. The closest thing I eat to meat is eggs.

Just because pain is a fact of life, doesn't mean we have to exploit it for amusement.
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Waah! Waaah! I don't like the food chain!

If a tree falls in the forest and no one videotapes it, does it:
1) Still fall? - YES
2) Entertain anyone? - NO

If a spider eats a mouse and no one video tapes it, does it:
1) Still eat the mouse? - YES
2) Entertain anyone? - NO

He's contributing to the greater good here!
Cool, informative video.

 

[dc5]

it's not about feeding the spider crickets or a mouse. but rather, the fact you used it for your own amusement and posted the video for everyone to see is rather cruel.