AHAHAHHAHAAH!!
i bet nobodys ever told that to deathkoba before
edit: and i saw this a couple posts down
response:
things OS X users don't have to worry about...
AHAHAHHAHAAH!!
i bet nobodys ever told that to deathkoba before
edit: and i saw this a couple posts down
response:
things OS X users don't have to worry about...
konakona
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that, and slow, less responsive, unintuitive and so on. Time and again I post my observation of what goes on at our school's computer cluster : people form a line to avoid OS X rigged macs and use XP rigged dells instead. so much for being user friendly and superior.
This feels like it's a repost for some disturbing reason. It's practically word for word, I remember a post like this a while back and now it's back agian! (Checks OP post date and it's confirmed, this is a new post.)
i'm not saying it's the ultimate decision maker. it just gives an interesting perspective. i wouldn't make any deductions based on a single opinion. but if it helps him, then it's good enough.
Finally a sane person with a very very good point! You make your point and you appear to be rational! Bravo!
If you think that's fast, try a P4, it'll knock the socks off of it. I think there was a news article on anandtech about how the developers for the mac platform tried out the Intel macs and they talked about how they were "very fast".
secretanchitman
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wow...i think you should just get whatever you want. forget what all these people are saying, well, most of them. its your money, your parents, your everything. just think what you really want and what you are/will really going to do with it. think about price, features, casing (power/i - titanium/plastic i think), and whatnot. just go with whatever you think is right.
I'm sure he knows what he wants. Thing is, his original post, before the edit, explicitly asked us for ways to convince his Dad to help him buy a Powerbook. You ask for an opinion, you'll get it.
The article talks about OS X on Apple's Intel Dev. hardware and not Windows. If you've ever done any serious work on both platforms you'll find that OS X does multitasking FAR smoother than Windows XP could ever dream of doing. IE: Simply insert a CDROM into a Windows box while you're doing something requiring realtime system attention and you'll see something absolutely wonderful..not.
Gaming will always be more efficient and abundant on the popular consumer majority platform but there ARE people who uses computers for far more different tasks that actually makes them MONEY. That's when these things become TOOLS and the right tools will often cost more money than a hack tool. It'll reward you back later. Now that tool doesn't have to be a Mac, it could be a Playstation for all I care.
That's the end of the discussion as I'm right and you're all wrong who dare to think otherwise.
I'm not even a Mac "fan" in any sense of the word btw.
Also what's so wrong about wanting something eh? We all want something and if it's possible to own it, why the hell not?
Sure pink shirts and popped collars (why did those come back?) are great but don't forget that your hair needs frosted tips to go with them!
konakona
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I totally agree with you on choosing the proper tool thing, but wanting something double the cost just because you dont like XP sounds a bit out of place to me. Sure, it is his money, but preference for OS is not really a task-oriented mindset. IMO, this so-called "multitasking" thingy has much less significance to end-users whose tasks arent really time ciritical.
For me the arguement of whether macs are better than PCs is like the arguement of whether cats are better than dogs. Both are great. They are just for different people.
I work at a college campus where I support both Windows 2000/XP and Mac OS9/X systems. The following opinions are based on experiences supporting these systems. OS9 is garbage. There is so much it can't do that I'm not even going to bother enumerating them. OSX on the otherhand isn't too bad. It works and does what its supposed to for the most part. For the mac zaelots out there that say OSX is far more reliable and crash proof than windows.. BS!! I have worked with several OSX systems that crashed repeatedly. The worst part about OSX crashes is the system doesn't give you any indication about what went wrong. It simply states an error occured and your system has to restart. As for really getting into the guts of the system and modifying it the way you want I still think windows is easier. I'm sure the same can be accomplished on the mac as the core of OSX is essentially linux (FreeBSD I think?), I just thing registry edits are easier. The inclusion of Active Directory support for OSX.4 was a good idea as this makes the systems much more usable in an office environment. Oh... and Apple, enough of the damn broadcast protocols! I can understand still supporting Appletalk for the sake of backwards compatability, but Rendezvous is just stupid! All you need is TCP/IP.
In the end though it all really boils down to what you want from the computer.
I work at a college campus where I support both Windows 2000/XP and Mac OS9/X systems. The following opinions are based on experiences supporting these systems. OS9 is garbage. There is so much it can't do that I'm not even going to bother enumerating them. OSX on the otherhand isn't too bad. It works and does what its supposed to for the most part. For the mac zaelots out there that say OSX is far more reliable and crash proof than windows.. BS!! I have worked with several OSX systems that crashed repeatedly. The worst part about OSX crashes is the system doesn't give you any indication about what went wrong. It simply states an error occured and your system has to restart. As for really getting into the guts of the system and modifying it the way you want I still think windows is easier. I'm sure the same can be accomplished on the mac as the core of OSX is essentially linux (FreeBSD I think?), I just thing registry edits are easier. The inclusion of Active Directory support for OSX.4 was a good idea as this makes the systems much more usable in an office environment. Oh... and Apple, enough of the damn broadcast protocols! I can understand still supporting Appletalk for the sake of backwards compatability, but Rendezvous is just stupid! All you need is TCP/IP.
In the end though it all really boils down to what you want from the computer.
didn't read the whole thread.
are you going to college soon? If so, wait for a student discount then! you'll get a 15inch power book for 1600 or so.
are you going to college soon? If so, wait for a student discount then! you'll get a 15inch power book for 1600 or so.
Deathkoba, after getting to know you, I've started to realise your posts aren't serious and I find you to be amusing
No but seriously though, there is plenty of PC only software making people so much money that I'm sure makes "movie producers" look like homeless hobos.The only advantage Macs have over PCs is maybe style if you prefer their style, and maybe the OS if you prefer the OS. No hardware advantage, they don't use less power, they aren't cheaper, they don't have as many features.
If you wait a few months, at least you can get Macs running Centrino, and thus get equal hardware to PC and closer to matching pricecs and equal power consumption/heat generation.
Why do you hate Windows so much? Just to tell you, there are GUI replacements for Windows that mimic the Mac interface like 99%. And if it's just a "I don't wanna use Windows!" thing then there is Linspire and Mandrake, both Linux distros made to be easy to use.
BTW, as far as stability, I've found that Windows XP SP2 is the most stable Windows ever(even above Server 2003), at least when kept clear of virii and spyware, and using good hardware.(go cheap on the hardware and you're asking for problems, at least on the Mac you can't go cheap on hardware) As far as smoothness, I'd imagine that a dual core system with tons of ram > any mac. Anyhow, I've found XP SP2 is actually even more stable than any Linux distro I've used. Even just in casual use of those, I somehow manage to have those crash on me within a few days of use.
I'd imagine macs are about as stable as you can get though, they only have like 3 hardware sets to support.
Anyhow, if you must must have a mac, wait for Mac Intel.
I disagree, they have to support many sets of hardware though they've designed all of their systems so it doesn't really matter. Macs are IMO very very unreliable for how proprietary they are. I mean windows has to support tons of configurations and be stable while the mac has to support many many fewer configurations. For such a proprietary setup, I expect the systems to be super reliable but they're not and it's quite sad to see something crash on something it was DESIGNED for.
Save up your $$ and use it to finance your college. After you graduate and get a job, treat yourself to a mac.
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