*EDIT* Mac vs. PC Flame war

[Ornery]

Thank you. finally someone with a maturity level...

:roll:

If your idea of "mature", is considering an electronic device to be anything more than a tool, then you two are PERFECT candidates for Apple's hype machine!

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

Originally posted by: Lorn
Speaking of spyware and virii, I haven't gotten a single one since I switched to OSX.

you must not be a gamer or someone who uses alot of 3d applications then.

 

[Chompman]

Originally posted by: Lorn
Speaking of spyware and virii, I haven't gotten a single one since I switched to OSX.

That's because they know 99.99 % of people use a pc so why go after the minority?

 

[Rip the Jacker]

Meh. Let him get his damn powerbook so he can play 3 games on it and then cry on atot

 

[Chompman]

Originally posted by: SuperTyphoon

Originally posted by: Lorn
Speaking of spyware and virii, I haven't gotten a single one since I switched to OSX.

you must not be a gamer or someone who uses alot of 3d applications then.

What kind of games causes you to get a virus?

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

95 percent of software written is PC only. switching to mac means good bye to all your cool applications. let alone the right click menus in macs have the most inconvenient and useless options.

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

Originally posted by: Chompman

Originally posted by: SuperTyphoon

Originally posted by: Lorn
Speaking of spyware and virii, I haven't gotten a single one since I switched to OSX.

you must not be a gamer or someone who uses alot of 3d applications then.

What kind of games causes you to get a virus?

I said that because no games are compatible with macs, and the CPU's can't handle large 3d things.

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: TheGeek
My windows PC crashed today and i wasnt even using it. it just randomly crashed to the BSOD.

Upgrade from Windows 95 plz.

Im running XP. thanks though

learn how to use the OS then.

if you can read, i wasnt even using it. it was just sitting there

what does that have to do with it? Obviously somthing is causing stability problems it makes no difference if its "just sitting there". The computer is still running proccesses and it seems somthing malicious was running. Maybe if you actually learned how to use what you have first your dad would be more open. Or maybe you could learn how use linux instead of windows instead of compaining about it in general, you never even mentioned a distro. There are lots of things you can do with your current PC even if you want to be cool and dump windows, however your mind is made up. Thanks for insulting everyone who isnt supporting your stance because its showing how mature you really are.

 

[nsafreak]

Have to love how the op edited his title and post :roll:

Seriously dude I have to agree with your father. I have used both the Mac platform (G5) and your standard PC (with Linux, BeOS, Windows, etc.) and I find the PC platform to be able to perform all that I need it to perform (this includes heavy duty image editing) and do it within a far lower budget than the Mac. Hell techically OS X is nothing more than a highly customized version of BSD (not sure it's based upon FreeBSD or NetBSD) and if you wanted you could make BSD look and act (to a certain extent) just like OS X. If you really want a Powerbook then just go and buy the thing it's your money.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: EyeMNathan
Why cant you buy a computer under 18? Did you mean you don't have any money of your own?

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Its a waste of money (?????)
Macs Suck

:thumbsup:

I Hate Windows, Love OS X

You are not forced to use Windows with a PC...

:thumbsup:

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Ornery
...the Mini was only $600

Christ, you could have gotten SO MUCH PC for less than that! You are such a typical Mac hype swallower, I'd be embarrassed to death if I were your dad!

Except you are forgetting that a sh!tload of PC users bought and are still buying Mac Minis because they want to mess around with OSX.

Great logic.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: Ornery
...the Mini was only $600

Christ, you could have gotten SO MUCH PC for less than that! You are such a typical Mac hype swallower, I'd be embarrassed to death if I were your dad!

Have you ever even used a Mac?? You sound like a Windows hype swallower.

I've used a Mac. I just can't get into them. No offense to people, but the interface seems a bit "fruity" or "metrosexual" to me. I just don't like it. Too artsy and flamboyant.

Like the default XP theme doesn't seem fruity or metro? It is worse than OS Xs default..but oh...get this, you can change it! Wow!

 

[thirdlegstump]

The truth is, both platforms are just fine depending on your uses and what you're comfortable with. There's no point in arguing that or pushing someone to get a platform that you favor.

If you know how to use your tool, your tool will function properly. (no jokes please)

Playing the latest realtime 3D games on a Mac is like opening a can of soda with a hammer whereas integrating your graphics developement into a Mac friendly environment with a PC is like trying to stick your fat cock up someone's nose. It's POSSIBLE..but why go through all that trouble when with a little bit of investment it will allow you to do your thing smoothly? (no lube jokes please)

Fact: Either platform can be used for almost any given task albeit a bit of hacking around here n there.

Fact: Platform A will do a smoother job at Task A than Platform B doing Task A.

Fact: You'll save money and time in the short or long run with Platform A doing Task A quickly and by the numbers. IE: No messing around with converting file formats, no looking around for 3rd party utilities to do Task A stuff using Platform B.

Think about it....

A typical computer lasts a good useable 2-3 years, sometimes less, sometimes more depending on your investment returns.

Spending $2100 on a Platform A that you enjoy working with and are comfortable with = less time spent on doing Task A stuff and you look far more professional by getting the job done quickly and efficiently. You get more jobs because people don't think you're a hack. Money is well spent and the extra $1400 becomes nothing to you at this point.

Spending $700 on Platform B doing Task A = more time spent on trying to figure out crossplatform issues instead of getting Task A done. You look like a fruitcake and the $1400 you've saved initially costs you your future jobs because you've missed a few minor deadlines. At this point you have lost potential clients and have wasted $700 and precious time.

It's a no brainer to me guys. Know your true needs and priorities and don't let fanboy bias make decisions for you.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: TheGeek
My windows PC crashed today and i wasnt even using it. it just randomly crashed to the BSOD.

Upgrade from Windows 95 plz.

Im running XP. thanks though

learn how to use the OS then.

if you can read, i wasnt even using it. it was just sitting there

My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Its a waste of money (?????)
Macs Suck

:thumbsup:

I Hate Windows, Love OS X

You are not forced to use Windows with a PC...

:thumbsup:

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Apple does a great job advertising and catering to a very specific market. The problem is that I hate just about all of their commercials and products. Everything seems to have a "fruity" quality to them that I just find weird and awkward. That's probably that same thing that draws some people to them.

Just as pink T-shirts and popped collars appeals to some guys, it strongly turns others off. Apple is the pink T-shirt/popped collar crowd.

...they don't even make multicolored PCs anymore. wtf.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

Agreed. This is whole "Windows is teh unstable!" argument is way overblown with regards to XP, and you usually see it overused by Linux/Mac fanatics. The one time my current PC has BSODed, it was the very first day I got it and it was due to the idiots @ Dell and their crap initial system config program. Hasn't crashed once since and I keep it running whenever I'm not asleep. I haven't had problems with XP on any of my other rigs either.

Win2K on the other hand, oh god don't get me started. Back when I used that, it'd be a good day when it would boot up without a BSOD due to some hardware driver problem. And WinME, that's chapter in MS history I'm sure they'd like to forget. XP has come a long way since. Vista...well I'm not a beta tester, so I can't really speak to that.

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

Agreed. This is whole "Windows is teh unstable!" argument is way overblown with regards to XP, and you usually see it overused by Linux/Mac fanatics. The one time my current PC has BSODed, it was the very first day I got it and it was due to the idiots @ Dell and their crap initial system config program. Hasn't crashed once since and I keep it running whenever I'm not asleep. I haven't had problems with XP on any of my other rigs either.

Win2K on the other hand, oh god don't get me started. Back when I used that, it'd be a good day when it would boot up without a BSOD due to some hardware driver problem. And WinME, that's chapter in MS history I'm sure they'd like to forget. XP has come a long way since. Vista...well I'm not a beta tester, so I can't really speak to that.

I have never gotten a NSOD om my rig yet, nor has it been infected with any spyare asides from the usual cookies and cache.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: SuperTyphoon

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

Agreed. This is whole "Windows is teh unstable!" argument is way overblown with regards to XP, and you usually see it overused by Linux/Mac fanatics. The one time my current PC has BSODed, it was the very first day I got it and it was due to the idiots @ Dell and their crap initial system config program. Hasn't crashed once since and I keep it running whenever I'm not asleep. I haven't had problems with XP on any of my other rigs either.

Win2K on the other hand, oh god don't get me started. Back when I used that, it'd be a good day when it would boot up without a BSOD due to some hardware driver problem. And WinME, that's chapter in MS history I'm sure they'd like to forget. XP has come a long way since. Vista...well I'm not a beta tester, so I can't really speak to that.

I have never gotten a NSOD om my rig yet, nor has it been infected with any spyare asides from the usual cookies and cache.

I've never gotten a nectarine screen of death on my rig either.

 

[RGN]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

I presented good information back a page or two, but I guess no one here is interested in that.

Anyway, with heavy use, my workstation at work gets about 12 days between reboots. Its a very solid workstation class machine from a well know vendor. There is nothing wrong with windows, nothing wrong with my applications. WindowsXP does keep getting better over time... HOWEVER, my Mac hasn't been rebooted since March. Its still going strong. I run Thunderbird, Firefox, UT2K4, Word, Excel and Safari all at once (well, UT doesn't always stay running... )).

I've got servers at work running OSX 10.2 and they have been up for more than a year. WIndows servers usually just do not see that kind of uptime.

I'm also not even going to touch the fact that malware and virii are nearly non-existant for OSX. oops, I just did... How much time do you spend cleaning that stuff up? Maybe not much anymore because you are careful, but what about in the past? For now there are no worries. Jeez, on windows most of the major anitvirus packages updates will require a reboot form time to time.

The Mac platfrom is fun to bash and an easy target. Whoever when one has to rely on a PC for day to day work, it is refreshing to use OSX. Powerful from the command line to the gui. Its certainly not the trainwreck Vista is looking like, thank god that is still beta. They have time to fix the gui.

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: TheGeek

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: TheGeek
My windows PC crashed today and i wasnt even using it. it just randomly crashed to the BSOD.

Upgrade from Windows 95 plz.

Im running XP. thanks though

learn how to use the OS then.

if you can read, i wasnt even using it. it was just sitting there

My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

My Windows XP machine has never crashed due to software problems. It crashed a few weeks ago because my brand-new 6800GT was messed up (got it RMA'd though).

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: SuperTyphoon
I have never gotten a NSOD om my rig yet, nor has it been infected with any spyare asides from the usual cookies and cache.

Yeah, but you gotta admit, a neon screen of death would be pretty cool to look at .

 

[nsafreak]

Originally posted by: RGN

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

My windows xp machine has not crashed in weeks and i have not rebooted it in a month.

1. Is your hardware overheating?
2. Do you have malware?
3. Are you having driver problems?

I presented good information back a page or two, but I guess no one here is interested in that.

Anyway, with heavy use, my workstation at work gets about 12 days between reboots. Its a very solid workstation class machine from a well know vendor. )

Then there is something wrong with your install. Either your drivers, the configuration or some piece of software that has loaded is causing problems if you have to reboot once every 2 weeks. The last time I had to reboot was when I updated to Service Pack 2. People love to jump on Windows for stability issues but XP has been one of the most stable Windows releases I have seen in a while.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You can underclock an CPU to get the wattage down considerably. You'd be surprised by how low the wattage gets when you lower the voltage and underclock.

hehe, and when you underclock it, it will even perform like the mac :laugh: