This thread makes my head hurt 
I'm a PC user, and I love my PC's. I've got everything from my main rig with an A64 running XP Pro to an old Dell PII running some old version of redhat. I'm currently in the process of purchasing an ibook. 1. Its something differant 2. It's silky smooth when you get some RAM packed into it 3. It'll do everything I need plus give me some head room.
As to the OP's original question (which was fscking simple you dicks), I'd probably just hand your dad the 2100 and ask for his credit card . Either that or get yourself a debit card from your local bank and use that. My credit union issues pre paid credit cards that you can "charge" with whatever amount you want/ need that I usually use if I'm making a large web purchase at a place that doesn't take debit.
Anywho, good luck with your purchase,
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I'm a PC user, and I love my PC's. I've got everything from my main rig with an A64 running XP Pro to an old Dell PII running some old version of redhat. I'm currently in the process of purchasing an ibook. 1. Its something differant 2. It's silky smooth when you get some RAM packed into it 3. It'll do everything I need plus give me some head room.
As to the OP's original question (which was fscking simple you dicks), I'd probably just hand your dad the 2100 and ask for his credit card
. Either that or get yourself a debit card from your local bank and use that. My credit union issues pre paid credit cards that you can "charge" with whatever amount you want/ need that I usually use if I'm making a large web purchase at a place that doesn't take debit.Anywho, good luck with your purchase,
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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Originally posted by: RGN
I presented good information back a page or two, but I guess no one here is interested in that.
Anyway, with heavy use, my workstation at work gets about 12 days between reboots. Its a very solid workstation class machine from a well know vendor. )
Then there is something wrong with your install. Either your drivers, the configuration or some piece of software that has loaded is causing problems if you have to reboot once every 2 weeks. The last time I had to reboot was when I updated to Service Pack 2. People love to jump on Windows for stability issues but XP has been one of the most stable Windows releases I have seen in a while.
Yeah, just that easy. "there is something wrong with your configuration" You sir must be an expert!
Really, the system is very stable. I do use a wide range of applications and memory fragmentation and release are still an issue with SP2. Of course some of it is the fault of applications. This begs the the question of why OSX seems to have a better handle on it. So does an flavor of Linux. In short it is not that easy dismiss needing a reboot on a misconfiguration.
If you really want an Apple so bad, you should sell everything and get a G5 tower. A powerbook would be just as slow as a mini.
I am extremely happy with my G5. It is quick as hell when multitasking between Soundtrack Pro, Final Cut Pro and Motion. Not to mention that Logic Pro 7 has the hands down best audio engine I've ever used for audio production. Add in other applications designed for the mac, like Cinema 4D, Sketchup, DVD Studio Pro and Digital Performer and you have everything you need for a multimedia task. Oh, and include an incredible case with both function and style...
Gaming is minor at best on it, though. I play Halo, UT2004, AA, Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Black Hawk Down, Doom 3 and Splinter Cell but that's about it. That is why I built myself a PC for gaming. It is much louder, much uglier and much more cluttered, but it can churn out beautiful frames very well - much better than my G5.
I work on my G5 and play on my PC.
So get an ibook then, you'll probably end up using it alot less then your desktop anyway, and it's alot less expensive in case something happens to it.
I understand that most security and core library updates require a reboot in OSX. There have been 6 security updates just for OSX released since you rebooted your Mac in March. Those include about 60 security holes. Being an IT professional, aren't you concerned about this? Shouldn't your production servers at work be updated more regularly?Originally posted by: RGN
I presented good information back a page or two, but I guess no one here is interested in that.
Anyway, with heavy use, my workstation at work gets about 12 days between reboots. Its a very solid workstation class machine from a well know vendor. There is nothing wrong with windows, nothing wrong with my applications. WindowsXP does keep getting better over time... HOWEVER, my Mac hasn't been rebooted since March. Its still going strong. I run Thunderbird, Firefox, UT2K4, Word, Excel and Safari all at once (well, UT doesn't always stay running...
I've got servers at work running OSX 10.2 and they have been up for more than a year. WIndows servers usually just do not see that kind of uptime.
That is a fairly legit point as long as virtually nobody uses Macs. Given that even the most widespread worms reach about 1% of Windows computers, I don't think it's really feasible to propagate on the Mac. Once you account for the number of Macs running any flavor of OSX, running the affected versions of the exploited component, the percentage of those computers that are connected to the net, not firewalled or protected by AV or patched - the total pool of potential targets is already much lower than the most successful infection rates on Windows. A Mac worm would also spread about 20 times slower because when scanning IPs, it will find 30 Windows boxes before it finds another Mac. That gives people a lot more time to get patched. So, why would anybody bother?
You are a Spoiled Dumb kid. While macs are a good system, you're dumb for paying that much and I bet your parents pay for everything you own. You don't have a credit card... Consider your parents blessed cause you're going to get yourself some sh*t and make them pay for it. Damn kids today.
Exactly the problem I'm having. I don't give a crap that the kid wants a mac... I'd still think he's a douche for thinking he needs ANY computer over... say $1000... and furthermore for thinking that his parents should just outright buy it for him.
It's been said many times already... BUT GET A DAMN JOB YOU WASTE. So food in your mouth, clothes on your back, a roof over your head and much more isn't enough for you? Move out, live on your own... do it your way and show them that you are so smart and know everything! Then when you are filthy rich and living it up in only a matter of weeks, you can tell them not to expect a dime from you because they didn't buy you a laptop! JOKE IS ON THEM! HAHAHA!
If you really have the money stop whining here like a little pvssy! Just get a prepaid cc and get the powerbook you want, you sound like a spoiled brat who wants daddy to buy his new toy?
I think that crosses the line. If I'm reading this correctly, he HAS the money, some of, if not all of, which he got from his JOB. That would pretty much negates the spoiled part, though I cant speak to whether his parents buy him things, but I would assume that his parents buy him some things, as most parents do.
As for the dumb part, I didn't even blink when I dropped that much on my main rig, since I knew I'd use it and enjoy it. Its his money, if he wants to spend 2100 on a Powerbook, he has every right to, though I'd probably look at a 14.1 inch ibook with a gig of ram and an Applecare plan plus a couple other nick nacks for 1500 give or take with a student discount.
All this kid is asking for is advice on how to get his dad's blessing on a rather large purchase (something that didn't even occur to me in my younger years) and let him use his credit card for a 5 minute loan so he can get a first rate laptop, and you guys have either responded with "OMG MACS R TEH SUXORZ" or "fsking spoiled brat" and my favorite "get a job and buy it yourself."
I dont have a credit card by the way, I stick with my debit card and it hasn't failed me yet.
Damn kids today? Riggght :disgust:
Maybe you could clarify this statement, I dont understand what you're trying to say.
Just my 2 cents, take it for what its worth, since I'm just a damn kid.
*DON'T* but a powebook just yet. They still have the G4 processors in there which are slow as hell. The first macs with intel chhips in them wil likely be the powerbooks and are due to be developed soon.
The G4's only have a bus speed of 167MHz....
Do go for an apple though, just wait it out for a while.
The G4's only have a bus speed of 167MHz....
Do go for an apple though, just wait it out for a while.
Anybody who blows $600.00 just to "mess around" deserves to get an ear full from their dad. Dad has damn good reason to nix the whole transaction!Originally posted by: Excelsior
Except you are forgetting that a sh!tload of PC users bought and are still buying Mac Minis because they want to mess around with OSX.Great logic.
Know your true needs and priorities and don't let fanboy bias make decisions for you.
If the OP's only priority is to "mess around with OSX", only fanboys will be patting him on the back for that endeavor! I've YET to hear what he's got planned for this over hyped, overpriced, shiny bauble anyway!
i'm not reading the entire thread, but from what i've skimmed, this is ridiculous. the kid wants a mac. your efforts to convince him otherwise are fruitless. he could care less about what people say about PCs. he just wants his powerbook. what is so difficult to understand?
I like OS X. The interface is nice. Macs are very pricey though. Its not something you buy your kid unless he/she is mad spoiled or college age and going away. A great laptop running windows can cost liess than $1000 if you keep an eye out for a good deal. There's no way you can justify spending twice that amount in order to use an OS that's no more functional than windows.
...what is so difficult to understand?
Why somebody would spew their useless two cents without reading. Let alone ask such a stupid question, when the answer is already there!
Edit: Here's a synopsis for fvcktards, who can't bother to read:
Why somebody would spew their useless two cents without reading. Let alone ask such a stupid question, when the answer is already there!
Edit: Here's a synopsis for fvcktards, who can't bother to read:
- The OP wanted to buy a Powerbook online using his dad's CC, because he didn't want to cough up the money for tax buying it locally.
- His dad wants no part of him WASTING so much money.
- It has been pointed out that he'll have to pay tax anyway, so WTF he's still yammering about is beyond me.
- He has YET to even say what he intends to do with it, that's worth paying such a HUGE premium for!
Even if he has all of it, how much would he have if dad wasn't putting a roof over his head? As such, what pop says goes. If the kid wants to buy a mac when he's supporting himself, he's free to do so.
If he wants to try something different, he's free to try the various flavors of Linux at no cost.
I like pie.
Apples make a damn tasty pie. Windows does not. Have you ever had a window pie? It's either nothing but a hole in a lesser pie, or full of glass and crap that cuts the roof of your mouth. Apple pie on the other hand is much better...very sweet with just the right amount of tart. But you have failed to take into account the awesome powers that come with the introductin of cherries or peaches. Now either of those can make a pie that blows the others out of the water. especially if the fruits are in season. mmm. delicious. Then again, if we were talking desserts, cheesecake is just godlike. Especially if you add the fruit on top...oh mercy that's good.
TheGeek:
It's not like you don't have a computer. You have 2.
It's not like you have to use windows. You have the mini.
You have access to a laptop, even if it is borrowed. Text is text, binary is binary regardless of what OS you use. Plus, there's nothing really stopping you from getting a dirt cheap PC and running an NX/X session into the mini.
You'll likely get the powerbook regardless of anything said here. I think this is just financially irresponsible irregardless of the platform. As near as I can see, you haven't really determined exactly what functionality you require out of a new computer nor really researched all the possible avenues towards achieving that functionality. It's like the masses of freshmen going off to college who need brand new laptops and then the laptop sits in the dormitory on their desk for 4 years before getting chucked and picked up by dumpster divers all the while, they're busy ogling the next generation of inspowerpads. Despite what some people here say, wanting something and possessing the means to acquire it does not mean it should be done. It's how people get into financial trouble usually. the sooner you learn to be fiscally responsible, the better in my book.
Apples make a damn tasty pie. Windows does not. Have you ever had a window pie? It's either nothing but a hole in a lesser pie, or full of glass and crap that cuts the roof of your mouth. Apple pie on the other hand is much better...very sweet with just the right amount of tart. But you have failed to take into account the awesome powers that come with the introductin of cherries or peaches. Now either of those can make a pie that blows the others out of the water. especially if the fruits are in season. mmm. delicious. Then again, if we were talking desserts, cheesecake is just godlike. Especially if you add the fruit on top...oh mercy that's good.
TheGeek:
It's not like you don't have a computer. You have 2.
It's not like you have to use windows. You have the mini.
You have access to a laptop, even if it is borrowed. Text is text, binary is binary regardless of what OS you use. Plus, there's nothing really stopping you from getting a dirt cheap PC and running an NX/X session into the mini.
You'll likely get the powerbook regardless of anything said here. I think this is just financially irresponsible irregardless of the platform. As near as I can see, you haven't really determined exactly what functionality you require out of a new computer nor really researched all the possible avenues towards achieving that functionality. It's like the masses of freshmen going off to college who need brand new laptops and then the laptop sits in the dormitory on their desk for 4 years before getting chucked and picked up by dumpster divers all the while, they're busy ogling the next generation of inspowerpads. Despite what some people here say, wanting something and possessing the means to acquire it does not mean it should be done. It's how people get into financial trouble usually. the sooner you learn to be fiscally responsible, the better in my book.
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