Well, good luck, and I hope the son will find his own way, he will be much happier away from you, hell even being away from you might be all the "fixing" he needs.[/QUOTE]
I can only wait....tick tock tick tock
I can only wait....tick tock tick tock
This might be one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen, and if you don't know why, then you are confirming what I just said. It's not even worth the breathe to "clarify" why it's nothing but a piece of pure idiot in text form.
BoberFett
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Just because there are so many argumentative pricks around here, I'll side with the OP. By the time I was 22 I was married, in a solid job making a lot of money, bought a house of my own.
24 and living at home playing WoW means this guy a loser and needs a kick in the ass, not a guiding hand. He's not a confused child, he's a mooch will do this for the rest of his life if he can get away with it.
24 and living at home playing WoW means this guy a loser and needs a kick in the ass, not a guiding hand. He's not a confused child, he's a mooch will do this for the rest of his life if he can get away with it.
He could be suffering from depression or worse, a severe sleep disorder + depression. Expecting someone to treat this on their own is like expecting someone to get up out of their wheelchair or cure their cancer out of sheer will.
Just saying, has he ever been evaluated for a sleep disorder and/or depressive illness?
Just saying, has he ever been evaluated for a sleep disorder and/or depressive illness?
But you have to understand that he married this woman and it is her child. He knew the situation he was getting into. It is her place what to do with her son, not his.
alkemyst
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Born2bwire
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He's not a child, he's 24. He isn't his damn responsibility. As far as I'm concerned, given that the OP is truthful in what he has said, the OP has done more than he should have with him.
alkemyst
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age has nothing to do with adulthood. Too many parents are letting their kids live at home even to their 30's, fucking irresponsible and fucks up the economy much like when women started working. Prior to that a single income home could make a decent living, now you have to have two incomes.
As more and more families start adding those making real income yet are not offsetting it with room/board and all that goes with it, it just adds a glut of disposable income to each household that the economy will swell to adjust too.
As more and more families start adding those making real income yet are not offsetting it with room/board and all that goes with it, it just adds a glut of disposable income to each household that the economy will swell to adjust too.
Geekbabe
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The problem here IMHO is this young man's mother, she's allowed this situation to fester unchanged for so long that her husband, the OP is now gleefully posting a moveout time clock on the internet.
OP in blended family situations the responsibility for discipline, motivation, corrective actions rests primarily on the biological parent's shoulders , the person you should be angry with here is your wife. She's allowed this to build up for so long that it's become an ugly drama filled mess that will result in hurt feelings and ill feeling within the family for yrs.
Btw, I'm in a similar circumstance is that my almost 23 yr old son still lives at home, however he does contribute here to the best of his ability and is autistic. His disability however doesn't mean that I turn a blind eye or deaf ear to any concerns/issues my husband might have over his behavior.
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People in the 50s and 60s with only 1 income were poor as fuck. 1 car, 1 TV, that's it. The beautiful lake area where my dad grew up didn't turn into a camp ground until the late 80s because nobody could afford to go camping until then. Now the whole lake area is surrounded by camp sites and it's not unusual to see $80,000 RVs parked in them.
If he had a sleep disorder, his mom would probably know by now. The most common sleep disorders are caused by a lack of breathing, and it will sound like the person is struggling to breathe while they are sleeping. Someone would need to be absolutely retarded to not notice their kid has a sleep disorder.
Does he have brain damage because he plays WoW or does he play WoW because he has brain damage? :hmm:
BoberFett
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Why, you want a copy you sick fuck?
Go brag about buying a BMW on some other internet forum, pervert.
Well that's weird. According to sleep disorder experts, the typical time-to-diagnosis from onset of clinically significant symptoms for sleep disorders is measured in years (5 ~ 7 for obstructive sleep apnea, 10+ for narcolepsy, longer for central apnea). Between that time, their symptoms are either misdiagnosed as things like depression or misinterpreted by others around them as malingering or laziness.
I've had four PSGs and three MSLTs. And here you're telling me that all I needed was to have an untrained and possibly uninformed member of the general public listen to an audio recording of me sleeping to detect my obstructive sleep apnea?
I've personally met a dozen people with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea who spent 10 or more years being misdiagnosed with depression, OCD, ADHD, or just cast-off by their primary care physicians as malingering or mental cases before they encountered a physician who said "Let's get you evaluated for a sleep disorder" and then BOOM, they had moderate to severe apnea.
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Yes. If you listen to my dad, my grandma, or two of my friends sleep for just 5 minutes, you'll know that they have sleep apnea. 3 of them snore and the other sounds like he's struggling to breathe because he has a deviated septum. It doesn't really come as a shock that all 4 of those people have severe sleep issues. My dad often wakes up in the middle of the night and watches TV because he can't sleep; I could always tell when he woke up because his snoring would stop. My grandma was the opposite; she would sleep through alarm clocks and phone calls because she was always tired.
Any parent that doesn't notice these after 24 years is a bad parent. End of story.
A lot of OSA sufferers don't have the "textbook" (or prototypical) phenomena where they obstruct followed by gasping or choking. A lot of them just snore heavily and do not appear to actually stop breathing for any length of time. Some don't even snore heavily or moderately.
Central sleep apnea is not associated with any obstructive factor at all.
Central sleep apnea is not associated with any obstructive factor at all.
alkemyst
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Well there were/are always the poor. In the 50's and 60's a single breadwinner should have been able to support their family...I am talking professionals though, not some monkey working a wrench on a plant.
By the 70's, even the higher wage earners found their disposable income cramped without a second income.
And of course, I don't remember my parents having to have the latest and greatest luxury consumer goods, either. They bought a new car every 10 years and never got premium models or premium options. My dad owned a couple motorcycles but he bought them non-running used and fixed them up. They bought one of those console turn-tables with AM/FM radio and 8-track and used it for like 15 years. Bought a TV only when the current one died and cost more to fix than a new one. Only took a vacation every three years and always on the cheap, never went to casinos. Never ordered the premium cable TV package, just basic cable. Fixed their own cars and did their own lawn maintenance (or made their kids do it), so on and so forth x 1000 ways people piss their income away today.
Correct. Snoring is one of the first things anyone should look at when sleep quality is called into question. The next thing to look at would be if the person has a deviated septum or allergy problems that cause breathing restrictions without snoring. Example: I can't sleep near cats because I am allergic to them.
Sleep study monitored by doctors would be the last step. Once snoring problems, sinus problems, lighting problems, noise problems, and mattress problems have all been ruled out, a doctor can give some other suggestions for things to try. Problems like jimmy legs are more the type of thing a doctor can help with.
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Doctors can still help treating snoring and sinus problems. What I meant to say is that you don't need a doctor to tell you that you have these problems. People who snore a lot know that they snore at a lot. People who can't breathe near cats know that they can't breathe near cats.
The average starting salary for an electrical engineer is $60k. Any family of 4 can live on that if they only have 1 TV, 1 car that is 10 years old, and 1 computer is that 5 years old. Also remember to never go out for supper and have your wife always prepare lunch for you. It's easy to get by if you live like it's 1960. College students do it every day
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