Conservatives love serial sexual harassers

[brycejones]

I already have. What you don't seem to understand is that the burden of evidence is on the accuser.

Yes you are correct the burden is with the accuser.

However all you have provided is your opinion that because she continued to be on the show no harassment happened which is just an absolutely pathetic arguement. Women deal with all sorts of shit out of fear their careers will be harmed if they don't which is something harassers take advantage of.

Bill O has a long legal history here as someone who somehow gets in trouble over and over again for harassment and pays settlements to make it go away. This latest one fits in with his pattern of behavior. In my opinion it is more likely than not she is telling the truth. But my opinion really doesn't matter and neither does yours. All that will matter is what Rupert's sons think since this incident isn't being tried in a court of law.

 

[Sea Ray]

Yes you are correct the burden is with the accuser.

However all you have provided is your opinion that because she continued to be on the show no harassment happened which is just an absolutely pathetic arguement. Women deal with all sorts of shit out of fear their careers will be harmed if they don't which is something harassers take advantage of.

Bill O has a long legal history here as someone who somehow gets in trouble over and over again for harassment and pays settlements to make it go away. This latest one fits in with his pattern of behavior. In my opinion it is more likely than not she is telling the truth. But my opinion really doesn't matter and neither does yours. All that will matter is what Rupert's sons think since this incident isn't being tried in a court of law.

I'm accepting what she says at face value. Even at that I don't see any harrassment. I'm sure that's the reason she's not suing. She knows she doesn't have a case. Rupert and his sons will have the investigation done by the law firm to go by. I'm saying that that investigation will not show wrong doing by O'Reilly in this case. That's O'Reilly's lucky break. It's quite possible that the case that determines his fate is perhaps the weakest of all.

 

[SNC]

No, you completely missed my point. The point is that he didn't link the workplace with anything that went on between them personally. He continued to have her on the show and did not ask anything further of her after he was told no. That's not harrassment.

What cas are you referring to, there are several? If you are to believe Wendy Walsh when she said "Mr. O’Reilly broke his promise to make her a contributor when she declined an invitation to his hotel suite in 2013". THAT is pretty cut and dry no? If someone in power over you either personally, or professionally makes a pass or attempts to initiate a sexual relationship and there are strings attached its harassment. Some will argue that as long as its received well and both parties appear to be OK with it, ignoring the imbalance of power, its all good.

 

[brycejones]

I'm accepting what she says at face value. Even at that I don't see any harrassment. I'm sure that's the reason she's not suing. She knows she doesn't have a case. Rupert and his sons will have the investigation done by the law firm to go by. I'm saying that that investigation will not show wrong doing by O'Reilly in this case. That's O'Reilly's lucky break. It's quite possible that the case that determines his fate is perhaps the weakest of all.

There are many reasons she could have chosen to not pursue a case and many women don't pursue valid cases because they are fearful of harming their professional reputations by sticking up for themselves.

Do you accept that Bill O has been in trouble before for harassment or were those cases bogus as well in your eyes?

As far as what will happen we shall we.

 

[Sea Ray]

What cas are you referring to, there are several? If you are to believe Wendy Walsh when she said "Mr. O’Reilly broke his promise to make her a contributor when she declined an invitation to his hotel suite in 2013". THAT is pretty cut and dry no? If someone in power over you either personally, or professionally makes a pass or attempts to initiate a sexual relationship and there are strings attached its harassment. Some will argue that as long as its received well and both parties appear to be OK with it, ignoring the imbalance of power, its all good.

The problem is you're not up to snuff with the facts. Wendy Walsh was on the show along with another woman, Bonny Forrest and she supports O'Reilly's version:

Factor producers told Walsh in June, 2013 that her regular segments, during which she appeared with lawyer Bonny Forrest, would be ending.

In an interview, Forrest said that Walsh told her that she thought their cancellation was because of the hotel encounter. But Walsh didn’t mention then that O’Reilly had offered and then rescinded the job offer, Forrest said. “I take sexual harassment and racial discrimination very seriously. But I also believe in this instance there are some statements made in press that aren’t consistent with my experience,” said Forrest, who has been interviewed by attorneys for Paul Weiss, who are investigating this latest harassment claim against O’Reilly.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/bill...ck-against-new-sexual-harassment-claim/326716

 

[Sea Ray]

There are many reasons she could have chosen to not pursue a case and many women don't pursue valid cases because they are fearful of harming their professional reputations by sticking up for themselves.

Do you accept that Bill O has been in trouble before for harassment or were those cases bogus as well in your eyes?

As far as what will happen we shall we.

I think O'Reilly does have a problem with using his power/money in order to get something out of women. My comment to him and Roger Ailes is that you fat old men need to earn your ass just like the rest of us guys. Don't try to shortcut it.

 

[brycejones]

I think O'Reilly does have a problem with using his power/money in order to get something out of women. My comment to him and Roger Ailes is that you fat old men need to earn your ass just like the rest of us guys. Don't try to shortcut it.

I guess we agree on something.

 

[Sea Ray]

I guess we agree on something.

Not surprising. I'm not an ideologue. My guess is the only time we'll agree is when I veer left of center. I doubt you ever veer right of center.

 

[brycejones]

Not surprising. I'm not an ideologue. My guess is the only time we'll agree is when I veer left of center. I doubt you ever veer right of center.

Mainly when it comes to foreign policy and defense policy. But I also think the current administration's foreign policy is a complete shit show though.

 

[gregoryvg]

why would anyone listen to anything coming from a serial rapist like you?

So you have no issues with Bill Clinton raping women?

 

[alien42]

So you have no issues with Bill Clinton raping women?

Bill Clinton didn't rape anyone.

unlike you who is a serial rapist and a disgrace to humanity. you're probably a pedophile too.

 

[agent00f]

One of these days I'm gonna grab me a few bottles of my finest mead and read all the posted of yours and see if there is even one time where you directly answered a question from someone you did not agree with. While I am sure you have stroked the cock of a like minded person, and directly answered then, I am seriously doubtful you ever entertained the idea you might be incorrect.

"3 = 10 because it's also > 1" --degenerate brain trust

The answer was about as simple to understand as that subtraction it once took you days to figure, but in fairness we're dealing with the some of the dumbest shits alive, eg:

You have better luck of winning the lottery.

Just yesterday, still nothing from agent fail troll, again as usual.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...d-with-gumballs.2503206/page-12#post-38850573

Though also in fairness, at least SNC can be said to have ever figured something out in his life.

 

[agent00f]

Bill Clinton didn't rape anyone.

unlike you who is a serial rapist and a disgrace to humanity. you're probably a pedophile too.

Let's hope for an entertaining race between gregoryvg and SNC to understand this post. But no matter what happens, gregoryvg can rest assured he'll be on svnla's brain trust.

He continued to have her on the show and he continued to promote her book, something that only benefits her. That does nothing for him or his ratings . He did all this even though he wasn't getting anything on the side. That doesn't rise to the level of harrassment.

Maybe this one wants to compete with them too, but it's pretty long odds considering he can't even figure how talk shows work.

 

[alien42]

and Bill O'Reilly has been fired...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fox-oreilly-idUSKBN17L25V

 

[momeNt]

and Bill O'Reilly has been fired...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fox-oreilly-idUSKBN17L25V

I'm going to go on the record right now. You will never hear a conservative on this forum ever once apologize for Bill O'Reilly and attempt to label him a philanderer or sexually promiscuous. His predation of women on account of his power at the station was nothing short of disgusting. Fox have done the right thing, and conservatives in general have shown time and again, that their values are unimpeachable. Out with O'Reilly!

 

[brycejones]

I'm accepting what she says at face value. Even at that I don't see any harrassment. I'm sure that's the reason she's not suing. She knows she doesn't have a case. Rupert and his sons will have the investigation done by the law firm to go by. I'm saying that that investigation will not show wrong doing by O'Reilly in this case. That's O'Reilly's lucky break. It's quite possible that the case that determines his fate is perhaps the weakest of all.

Don't know if that was the one that broke the camel's back but bill is out at fox. Although I doubt this is the end for him.

 

[agent00f]

I'm going to go on the record right now. You will never hear a conservative on this forum ever once apologize for Bill O'Reilly and attempt to label him a philanderer or sexually promiscuous. His predation of women on account of his power at the station was nothing short of disgusting. Fox have done the right thing, and conservatives in general have shown time and again, that their values are unimpeachable. Out with O'Reilly!

You've must missed all those posts from yourself comparing him to someone who was thoroughly investigated and cleared of everything. And here you are predictably pretending Fox were too dumb to figure something was going on behind all these suits/payouts/complaints over decades. Good thing people with some ethics finally put enough financial pressure on the degenerates to make them pretend they finally cracked the case.

 

[momeNt]

You've must missed all those posts from yourself comparing him to someone who was thoroughly investigated and cleared of everything. And here you are predictably pretending Fox were too dumb to figure something was going on behind all these suits/payouts/complaints over decades. Good thing people with some ethics finally put enough financial pressure on the degenerates to make them pretend they finally cracked the case.

Forever the apologist. You are a thoroughly disgusting individual. We all understand that those of limited intellectual capacity such as yourself are terminally obliged to protect.

 

[agent00f]

Forever the apologist. You are a thoroughly disgusting individual. We all understand that those of limited intellectual capacity such as yourself are terminally obliged to protect.

Predictable degenerate reply a la "libtards are the Real racists/misogynists/degenerates". To prove the point we just need @Corn to cower at how clever that is.

 

[momeNt]

Predictable degenerate reply a la "libtards are the Real racists/misogynists/degenerates". To prove the point we just need @Corn to cower at how clever that is.

Not liberals, just you specifically, many of your betters have already disavowed Bill and Hillary as a sexual predator and enabler of a sexual predator. Only the weak minded such as yourself become obliged to protect those they serve.

 

[Sunburn74]

and Bill O'Reilly has been fired...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fox-oreilly-idUSKBN17L25V

I'm sure he'll get a generous severance package. "Take your bucketloads of money and go elsewhere and probably get a better job or a book deal in the future!"

 

[alien42]

Forever the apologist. You are a thoroughly disgusting individual. We all understand that those of limited intellectual capacity such as yourself are terminally obliged to protect.

wait, what? you're the one who just used Bill O'Reilly's firing as vindication for Fox News when we all know that Fox has been a culture that bred sexual harassment under Roger Ailes for decades. you are the "thoroughly disgusting individual" with absolutely no morals.

Fox News viewers are a reflection of the pieces of shit who run that morally corrupt circus.

 

[agent00f]

Not liberals, just you specifically, many of your betters have already disavowed Bill and Hillary as a sexual predator and enabler of a sexual predator. Only the weak minded such as yourself become obliged to protect those they serve.

I've simply stated unimpeachable facts of the respective cases, which is what degenerates love to confuse for the Real degeneracy as you & peers have been eager to demonstrate. Eg: "fox which has harbored o'reilly/ailes/etc for decades are the good ones just like us their fans".

 

[momeNt]

wait, what? you're the one who just used Bill O'Reilly's firing as vindication for Fox News when we all know that Fox has been a culture that bred sexual harassment under Roger Ailes for decades. you are the "thoroughly disgusting individual" with absolutely no morals.

Fox News viewers are a reflection of the pieces of shit who run that morally corrupt circus.

The execs, namely the younger Murdochs, became aware of the culture that was in place at Fox News, and have cleaned house in a surprising amount of time.

We have people who nearly 20 years later are still obliged to protect those they serve. It took Fox a couple of weeks? Who is disgusting again?

 

[agent00f]

The execs, namely the younger Murdochs, became aware of the culture that was in place at Fox News, and have cleaned house in a surprising amount of time.

We have people who nearly 20 years later are still obliged to protect those they serve. It took Fox a couple of weeks? Who is disgusting again?

"They sure are brave to cancel a guy's show after all the advertisers left due to public airing of our behavior." -- degenerates