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Conservatives love serial sexual harassers

I demand you change your title to Conservatives love "Politically Incorrect People". You're personal sense of self worth and personal space is immaterial.
 
Hey, it's just manly men putting womanly women in their rightful place. I mean, just look at those manly fella's over there at FOX (yes, please do allow the snickering and chuckling subside before going on as I just did). They're upstanding pillars of the community plying their trade and doing what they do best. If it just so happens that their most fearsome and capable competition are intelligent women that just so happen to have the TITular ASSets that gives them an superior advantage over those dodgy old tellers of tall tales at FOX when it comes to what their dodgy old pervy decrepit viewers of theirs want to lust gaze at as they soak in the talking points of the day, well, what's a fella going to do, right?

Defeating their competition via installing a bullet proof glass ceiling over their heads is the easiest most simplest way to go. And just to drive that dagger in a little deeper and twist it around a tad, these guys over at FOX have a need to exclaim their superiority over the women folk who dare to threaten their livelihoods via the "traditional family values" route where women, bless their cute little tushies, need to listen to and obey their men folk and above all, stop their grinn'in and drop their linen whenever called upon to get anywhere upward of passionately delivering the hourly weather reports.

Just ask Megyn Kelly and the host of other women hopefuls that wanted to stake their claim to equal opportunity at FOX but left when they smelled the overbearing manliness that reeks over there. They'll tell ya's.
 
These are settlements of suits. There have been no convictions, or restraining orders, as far as I know. Please stick to facts and evidence before passing a judgment on a person's character.

Also, FWIW, it's trivially easy to masturbate on the phone without anybody knowing, so I am inclined to reject the article on its face.
 
momeNt said:
These are settlements of suits. There have been no convictions, or restraining orders, as far as I know. Please stick to facts and evidence before passing a judgment on a person's character.

Also, FWIW, it's trivially easy to masturbate on the phone without anybody knowing, so I am inclined to reject the article on its face.
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So Megyn Kelly the most popular host on Fox at the time figured, "I know how to further my career, I'll make a false accusation against Billo"

And the other 4 women are just a big wet sloppy coincidence.
 
HomerJS said:
So Megyn Kelly the most popular host on Fox at the time figured, "I know how to further my career, I'll make a false accusation against Billo"

And the other 4 women are just a big wet sloppy coincidence.
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I believe Kelly's accusations were against Ailes.
 
momeNt said:
These are settlements of suits. There have been no convictions, or restraining orders, as far as I know. Please stick to facts and evidence before passing a judgment on a person's character.

Also, FWIW, it's trivially easy to masturbate on the phone without anybody knowing, so I am inclined to reject the article on its face.
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TMI.
 
momeNt said:
These are settlements of suits. There have been no convictions, or restraining orders, as far as I know. Please stick to facts and evidence before passing a judgment on a person's character.

Also, FWIW, it's trivially easy to masturbate on the phone without anybody knowing, so I am inclined to reject the article on its face.
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When someone has a string of sexual harassment claims against them, that's a good sign that something is wrong. You don't want to assume the individual cases are completely true, but it doesn't require convictions to see a pattern. What's more logical: that a slew of women conspired to bilk O'Reilly of millions for no good reason, or that he's a classic asshole who feels he's entitled to treat women like slabs of meat?

I'm reminded more than a little of how some guys will bend over backward to shield Bill Cosby, or Trump, or other men who have a history of predatory sexual behavior simply because they haven't been convicted for it. It feels less like an attempt to preserve the concept of innocent-until-proven-guilty and more an example of our tendency to put more trust in one man's word than that of a dozen women.
 
Commodus said:
It feels less like an attempt to preserve the concept of innocent-until-proven-guilty and more an example of our tendency to put more trust in one man's word than that of a dozen women.
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Explain that feeling?

And I only started off on that note in this thread because the OP is a pillar of the community here, and as such his content should be held to a higher standard than most of the other trolls.
 
I was going to make a comparison to Bill Clinton, but I realized it might indicate that I were somehow OK to look the other way toward Bill O'Reilly's behavior.

His personal behavior is reprehensible and it ought to preclude him from employment in his current role and potentially expose him to criminal consequences.

And I think your thread title clickbait is not productive.
 
momeNt said:
These are settlements of suits. There have been no convictions, or restraining orders, as far as I know. Please stick to facts and evidence before passing a judgment on a person's character.

Also, FWIW, it's trivially easy to masturbate on the phone without anybody knowing, so I am inclined to reject the article on its face.
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In my experience with civil litigation, defendants do not settle cases for millions of dollars when there is no merit. Avoiding bad publicity is not a reason because settling one frivolous claim for a lot of money is like putting blood in the water. More will come. If a claim has no merit, you either pay nuisance money to settle it, or you take it all the way to trial with the expectation of winning, and when you do, it will deter others from suing. Paying out $13 million suggests that there is something to these claims. It doesn't absolutely prove it. Kind of like how asking for immunity strongly suggests guilt, but it's possible it does not.
 
momeNt said:
Explain that feeling?

And I only started off on that note in this thread because the OP is a pillar of the community here, and as such his content should be held to a higher standard than most of the other trolls.
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It's really about society's seeming urge to protect a man's reputation at all costs. I don't want to read too much into what you're saying, to be clear, but you are feeding into this mindset (even if unconsciously).

No, that jock couldn't have raped that woman, he has a promising sports career ahead of him. No, that TV host couldn't have degraded his women coworkers, he's too famous for that. There's a tacit assumption that the woman is simply trying to tarnish a good man, or else that her suffering isn't so bad that it's worth ruining a man's public image. The classic example is Brock Turner: he was caught in mid-rape and still got a very light sentence, simply because he said he was sorry... and his parents were actually more concerned about how this would hurt his prospects than the lifetime of trauma he inflicted on his victim.

And so it goes with O'Reilly, I'd say. Asking us to refrain from judging his character unless there are convictions, even when there are multiple accusations and multiple settlements, is effectively saying that his reputation is more important than the damage he did. At a certain point, you have to accept that the accusations themselves are a sign of vile behavior, even if you can't vouch for every last detail of every claim.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Now he's a news host..............LMAO!!!!!
Conservatives and Liberals in a position of power are equal opportunity sexual harassers
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Forgot the "'s on the news, so sue me. I called him a news host because a lot of people who watch fox actually believe he is.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Now he's a news host..............LMAO!!!!!
Conservatives and Liberals in a position of power are equal opportunity sexual harassers
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While I can agree with what I think is your intention here, that pretending that one party is the party of perverts and the other of sexual purity is nonsense, I do think there is a stereotype here that conforms to some degree to reality, but I don't think the root of that difference lies in liberal or conservative philosophy. I believe, rather, that it is rooted in the fact that coincident to a lot of conservatives is an adherence to fundamentalist religion, and the puritan values espoused therein, essentially that bodily desire and improper or taboo sex equates to sin. When children are subjected to ideas that are contrary to human nature and taught there are evil for having such desires, sex can become easily perverted as self abnegation and self denial kick in. One more easily can succumb to the temptations of risky sex when one harbors the unconscious feeling that one is actually evil. The monster hides from the ego which hides it by external respect and worldly achievement, say becoming a priest. There are millions of conservatives who do not have these symptoms and there are doubtless many many liberals who do.

You will see many people in life who are very very successful but secretly hate themselves and achieve their worst fears, loss of respect which is lacking within them, by getting caught in some socially condemned act. Self hate manifests unconsciously by the adrenaline addiction and rush brought on by risking exposure. We seek to relive our childhood trauma, get close to feeling them, by putting us in situations that evoke the same kind of punishment we were told we deserve. That is the backward way to relive trauma, by making it real today. We have a need to be spanked one way or another. Now if you'll excuse me. I think it's time for my nurse to change my diaper.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Both sides equally bad when it comes to this subject
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Exactly if we applied the same sexual harassment standards to liberal Hollywood which is also part of the media all our glass houses would be shattered,conservative and liberal alike.
Casting couch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casting_couch


  • United States
  • The legend of the Hollywood casting couch coincided with the rise of the studio system in the 1910s. Many moguls were rumoured to have been enthusiastic practitioners and it has been claimed that many actresses attempted, with varying degrees of success, to attain stardom via this route.[2]
  • In her memoir Past Imperfect: An Autobiography (1978), actress Joan Collins described her experience of the casting-couch behaviour of two 20th Century Fox execs in the 1950s.
  • In her memoir Child Star (1988), actress Shirley Temple claimed that one producer exposed himself to her in 1940 when she was 12.
  • In her book You'll Never Eat Lunch in This Town Again (1991), Oscar-winning producer Julia Phillips attempted to expose many of the underground Hollywood institutions and confirmed that a "casting couch" mentality was alive and well in Hollywood.
  • In a 1995 article, journalist Peter Keough described Hollywood as "a town where everyone is selling body and soul for fame and fortune and all – especially women – are considered commodities".[3]
  • In a 1996 interview, actor Woody Harrelson declared "every [acting] business I ever entered into in New York seemed to have a casting couch ... I've seen so many people sleep with people they loathe in order to further their ambition."[4]
  • In 2003, Italian actress Asia Argento stated that Hollywood producers expect oral sex from young starlets in exchange for roles.[5] Her semi-autobiographical film Scarlet Diva (2000) features a scene along these lines with painter Joe Coleman playing a lecherous producer.
  • Robert Hofler's book The Man Who Invented Rock Hudson (2005) alleged that one Hollywood agent was a gay casting-couch predator.[6]
  • At a 2005 class reunion, producer Chris Hanley told his former classmates that "almost every leading actress in all of [his] 24 films has slept with a director or producer or a leading actor to get the part that launched her career".[7]
  • In her autobiography Ich habe ja gewusst, dass ich fliegen kann (2006), Austrian actress Senta Berger (b. 1941) claimed that in a New York hotel suite in 1965 a producer (b. 1902) exposed himself to her beneath his silk dressing gown and offered to forgive her for the atrocities of the Nazis if she slept with him.
  • In 2006, a New York City producer was accused of sexually harassing several members of the cast of the off-Broadway play Dog Sees God.[8]
  • In 2007, an article in Vanity Fair denounced Lou Pearlman, disgraced former manager of boy bands such as Backstreet Boys and 'N Sync, for improper casting couch-behavior.[9]
  • In 2009, Megan Fox stated that leading film directors made sexual propositions while casting for film roles.[10]
  • In a 2009 interview with OK! Magazine, actress Charlize Theron claimed that when she was 18 she was propositioned at an audition by a pajama-clad Hollywood director.[11] "I thought it was a little odd that the audition was on a Saturday night at his house in Los Angeles, but I thought maybe that was normal."[12]
  • In a 2009 interview, actor Mickey Rourke declared: "There's definitely something called a casting couch... if you take a girl from the Midwest with a pretty face and instead of inviting them in for an audition in the morning, the directors invite them for dinner at night? ... I can recall with certain women, we'd go out, I'd park the car on Sunset and by the time I'd got to the curb there'd be three or four producers handing them cards. ... There's ways you get a job and ways you get a job."[13]
  • In a 2010 interview with Elle magazine, Gwyneth Paltrow revealed that early in her career a film executive suggested that a business meeting should finish "in the bedroom".[14]
  • In April 2010, actor Ryan Phillippe admitted on the Howard Stern Show that he had had to flee a "creepy" casting-couch session when he was 18 or 19.[15]
  • In a 2010 interview with Access Hollywood, actress Lisa Rinna said a producer had asked her for "a quickie" when she was a 24-year-old candidate for a role on a prominent television series.[16] At the same interview, Rinna's husband Harry Hamlin claimed that a female casting director attempted to seduce him in the late 1970s when he was 27.[17][18]
  • In 2011, Corey Feldman alleged that children were also victims of the casting couch.[19] Paul Petersen said that some of the culprits are "still in the game" and Alison Arngrim claimed that Feldman and Corey Haim were given drugs and "passed around" in the 1980s.[20]
  • In the November 2012 issue of Elle, Susan Sarandon spoke of a "really disgusting" casting-couch experience in New York City in the late 1960s or early 1970s. "I just went into a room and a guy practically threw me on the desk. It was my early days in New York and it was really disgusting. It wasn't like I gave it a second thought. It was so badly done."[21][22]
  • Theresa Russell has alleged in multiple interviews that she was propositioned by a legendary producer Sam Spiegel during her first casting session for The Last Tycoon.[23] According to his biographer, Spiegel had previously made liberal use of the casting couch during the making of The Chase (1966).[24]
  • In 2015, in an interview on Access Hollywood, iconic actress Rita Moreno declared that Buddy Adler, former production head for 20th Century Fox studios, made constant calls to her which she refused to accept, as she "knew what he was after."[25]
  • In July 2016, television executive Roger Ailes was accused of sexual harassment by former Fox News Channel anchor Gretchen Carlson. More than twenty other women, including Megyn Kelly and Andrea Tantaros, have since come forward with similar allegations about Ailes' predatory casting couch-like behavior in the television industry over a 50-year period.[26]
  • In October 2016, Cher posted on Twitter that she had had a “scary experience” with an unnamed and now deceased "gross" rich, important film producer at his house. She stated that she walked out and they never spoke again because "no job is worth that".[27]
  • Also in October 2016, Rose McGowan tweeted that she had been raped by a studio head who then bought the distribution rights to one of her films. She was then shamed while her rapist was adulated despite the rape being an open secret in Hollywood.[28]
  • On 1 November 2016, defence lawyers for Bill Cosby, who has been accused of sexual assault by over 60 women, wrote that, "Even if proven (and it could not be), the age-old 'casting couch' is not unique to Mr. Cosby, and thus not a 'signature' nor a basis for the admissibility of these witnesses' stories, let alone a conviction."[29]
  • In March 2017, actress Jane Fonda claimed: "I've been fired because I wouldn't sleep with my boss".
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momeNt said:
These are settlements of suits. There have been no convictions, or restraining orders, as far as I know. Please stick to facts and evidence before passing a judgment on a person's character.

Also, FWIW, it's trivially easy to masturbate on the phone without anybody knowing, so I am inclined to reject the article on its face.
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It's easy to predict that degenerates would instinctively come to this defense of their own, so I purposely didn't mentioned that some of these women recorded O'Reilly's calls/text to them and whatnot, a sample of which is trivially available via google. It's actually mentioned in the article, too, and a matter of public record via their lawsuits, but let's not confuse degenerates for readers.

momeNt said:
I believe Kelly's accusations were against Ailes.
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She also pointed at O'Reilly. Pretty obvious it's the culture from the top at fox, to the surprise of no one.
 
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