Capital on Lockdown

[Fern]

Some strange stuff coming out tonight about it. Child was in the car when police dumped rounds. Lady has a history of mental illness. She was unarmed. A man reported he saw police surrounding the car with the door open when they all started shooting her.

Again, she was unarmed. The police car that was smashed was not caused by her. He was speeding through the streets and slammed into a barrier...

Maybe her car had a TEA Party bumper sticker?

Fern

 

[Carson Dyle]

More Keystone Kops. They're becoming an epidemic in this country. When exactly did American cops become the biggest cowards on the planet?

Locally, a burglary was reported in a warehouse. When the county cops arrived, nobody responded to orders to come out. (Because the warehouse was empty.) So they called out the freaking SWAT team. For a burglary. Meanwhile, the sheriff in charge of these county cowards says they need more funding.

Idiots.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLGnach_YQ

Video of the incident where cops open fire on the car driven by the female suspect and video of said car fleeing after shots are fired.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

There's a video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLGnach_YQ#t=236
The cops showed a lot of restraint not ventilating her at the 25s mark.

Edit: Maybe they tried? I have no sound.

 

[Thebobo]

Maybe her car had a TEA Party bumper sticker?

Fern

Probably wouldn't of gotten shot then, most capital hill cops aren't exactly the progressive types. In fact I have my car lathered in Rush and Romney and stickers in case I ever get shot at.

 

[Jaskalas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLGnach_YQ

Video of the incident where cops open fire on the car driven by the female suspect and video of said car fleeing after shots are fired.

WTF

They shoot and kill AFTER she leaves their aggressive trap. At that point it certainly wasn't to protect themselves.

 

[BoberFett]

Of course the shooter runs away. Coward. I hope they catch him. Probably some birther or something.

Now don't you feel stupid...

 

[Carson Dyle]

Not to worry. They chased her down and killed her. The country is now a safer place for every American coward.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So, an angry mother who happens to be a bad driver gets shot and she didn't have a gun nor was shooting at anyone else?

Jeebus.

Fern

This is sarcasm right?

 

[Nintendesert]

WTF

They shoot and kill AFTER she leaves their aggressive trap. At that point it certainly wasn't to protect themselves.

What's really sick is they knew a child was in the vehicle before they opened fire. I guess we're back to old school policing where running from the PoPo is a capital offense.

 

[Fern]

This is sarcasm right?

No, it's an expression of disdain for police over reacting and shooting an unarmed woman and when they knew a kid was in the car too.

(At the time of that post it was claimed she hit a police vehicle, thus the "bad driver" comment. Now it appears she never hit a cop car.)

Fern

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The fuck she didn't. It's right on the video.

 

[Nintendesert]

The fuck she didn't. It's right on the video.

So what? They didn't fire to stop her from further injuring a police officer, they were firing as she drove away. You know, just hurting a cop isn't grounds for summary execution Judge Dredd.

Lethal force is to protect others, not exact revenge.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm mostly concerned that they aggressively create the situation in which a frightened person trying to flee is justification for lethal force.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The person who created that situation was the driver putting the police, bystanders, and her child in danger. You don't get to assault and evade the police because you're scared.

 

[cubby1223]

As much as I'd want to feel for the woman gunned down by police - you just don't fuck around with the biggest of government buildings. She chose poorly.

We need to ban vehicles. 35,000 deaths last year due to vehicles, that is far too many. How many more vehicular-caused mass murders does it take before we all wake up and realize that vehicles are not the answer to a civilized society.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

The person who created that situation was the driver putting the police, bystanders, and her child in danger. You don't get to assault and evade the police because you're scared.

But the obvious retort is, "Do you have die because of it?" as I don't see anyone arguing that she should of been let go or not arrested. Additionally why was the use of force acceptable because it was police officers applying it? If a armed citizen were to respond in such a manner while conducting a citizen's arrest would they/should they face criminal charges for firing shots in a similar situation where someone is attempting to flee apprehension?

/playing devil's advocate

I'll admit that I'm just making conjectures here without all the facts. I don't know all of what actually went down and the reasons for it but its interesting to think about these events rather than just accept this use of force by our agents of authority blindly.

 

[Jaskalas]

The person who created that situation was the driver putting the police, bystanders, and her child in danger. You don't get to assault and evade the police because you're scared.

You don't get to stand in front of a vehicle and then claim the right to kill the driver.

 

[Carson Dyle]

But the obvious retort is, "Do you have die because of it?" as I don't see anyone arguing that she should of been let go or not arrested.

Good God, man. She might have attacked the Pentagon next with her vehicle and with the kid in the car. You need to stop these national threats before they escalate and more men and women of law enforcement are placed in harms way. Did you watch the video and see the dozen or so cops firing at her point blank and never realize that they were all risking their lives?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

You don't get to stand in front of a vehicle and then claim the right to kill the driver.

You sure as fuck do if you're a cop attempting an arrest and they drive at you.

 

[Nintendesert]

The person who created that situation was the driver putting the police, bystanders, and her child in danger. You don't get to assault and evade the police because you're scared.

LOL so your response to assault on a cop is summary execution. You're a sicko.

 

[spidey07]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLGnach_YQ

Video of the incident where cops open fire on the car driven by the female suspect and video of said car fleeing after shots are fired.

Way to let the rifle point at people copper.

 

[Jaskalas]

You sure as fuck do if you're a cop attempting an arrest and they drive at you.

Police aggression leading to lethal force needs be to addressed.

I vehemently oppose them being able to jump in front of someone and then kill them. People freak out, they run. It is a natural instinct. It shouldn't be fatal, we only choose to make it so.

 

[Carson Dyle]

LOL so your response to assault on a cop is summary execution. You're a sicko.

It often is. What's sick is that so many people in this country just like him have been indoctrinated to accept this kind of behavior from law enforcement as the norm.

 

[Nintendesert]

Police aggression leading to lethal force needs be to addressed.

I vehemently oppose them being able to jump in front of someone and then kill them. People freak out, they run. It is a natural instinct. It shouldn't be fatal, we only choose to make it so.

Hey, range time is limited. You can't discharge your weapon if you deescalate situations.