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[zinfamous]

Ya...it's called Digistruct Peak....I think its some sort of arena where every time you complete a round, you quit and then are given the option to play at a level over 72 upon re-entering...

I'm not sure if you can play the main story and other DLC's over leveled...Does anyone know? I would assume you could because your going to be loaded up with gear > lvl 72

the "overleveling" chance is just for digistruct. All you get is overleveled gear--no extra skip points or levels. So at max OP level, you should be facing level 80 or 82 mobs that will drop gear at that level, which you can equip.

I haven't started it yet, but I'm not sure if you can equip and use the gear outside of digistruct? seems like that would break the game outside of all solo raid boss attempts...

 

[zinfamous]

Are those a random spawn like loot midgets or like king mong?

If it's like Mong, where do they typically spawn.

tubbies are completely random, and can be skaggs, varkids, spiderants, skeletons, and I think Raak. They will simply spawn wherever these mobs exist. Arid Nexxus Boneyard is popular because of the concentration of skaag mobs near the login spot, and Tundra express because of all those varkid mobs. Also, Caustic caverns.

There is some thought that they have a higher spawn rate at night, but I have yet to notice this. I guess I am now 5/5 on legendary drops with them.

Basically, you can login, run around and aggro mobs to see if there's a tubbie, then logout. I suppose you can kill a few to see if that triggers a tubbie to spawn with adds, but in my limited experience, they spawn with the initial mob. (I still do this, yet I havne't seen a tubbie spawn with reinforcements)

 

[Aikouka]

Sounds like your weapons are seriously underpowered. What lvl weapon is it? If you're lvl 38 you should be using weapons near your lvl.

What class are you using?

Also, he may be using elemental weapons. In the first, basic playthrough, elemental weapons have a much, much weaker penalty for using them on improper enemy states. For example, using a shock weapon on an enemy without a shield (or with a depleted shield) still does decent damage on the first playthrough, but the damage is much worse after that.

EDIT:

tubbies are completely random, and can be skaggs, varkids, spiderants, skeletons, and I think Raak. They will simply spawn wherever these mobs exist. Arid Nexxus Boneyard is popular because of the concentration of skaag mobs near the login spot, and Tundra express because of all those varkid mobs. Also, Caustic caverns.

Yeah, I've seen a few chubbies in the Caustic Caverns. They're pretty easy to kill too, but they normally spawn near the threshers. :\

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yes, it does. There are two places that you have to change the item level though I believe. Two fields that seem to correlate to the item's level. Pretty easy to spot.

Thanks for the info. I probably would have missed there being a second field.

 

[Rezident]

Sounds like your weapons are seriously underpowered. What lvl weapon is it? If you're lvl 38 you should be using weapons near your lvl.

What class are you using?

Axton, same weapons I finished the game with, so yes a few at my level and all of the best ones I’ve found on my last few levels. It just seems such a massive jump in hit points for every enemy and I still have the same weapons. I hope you get much better weapons soon or else there’s no point in going on. I need my sentry for every single fight now and even it's getting destroyed.

 

[zinfamous]

Thanks for the info. I probably would have missed there being a second field.

I believe the first one is the second or third field, which is called "Manufacturer level," just under the "manufacturer" field, and the second field is near the bottom, which is called "game level" or something like that. Those names might be reversed in terms of location. They are easy to distinguish because they are the only drop down fields in that right side column that ask you to select a level number.

 

[zinfamous]

Axton, same weapons I finished the game with, so yes a few at my level and all of the best ones I’ve found on my last few levels. It just seems such a massive jump in hit points for every enemy and I still have the same weapons. I hope you get much better weapons soon or else there’s no point in going on. I need my sentry for every single fight now and even it's getting destroyed.

use some Shift keys to upgrade your gear to e-tech weapons. I did this when I first hit TVHM at ~level 32 with my Siren. I kept 2 plasma casters (fire and lightning) and a few pistols. Those 3 guns carried me pretty much to the end of TVHM, despite being 10 levels below my character at the time. I found better weapons, of course, but for some reason, these always seemed OP for about 3/4 of that playthrough.


Also, maybe start getting used to slag-and-swap tactics. If you find the HP of the mobs in TVHM annoying, then you will seriously hate UVHM if you want to keep playing to max level, where it is impossible to avoid using slag. I honestly never slagged anything during TVHM as those plasma casters were hilariously destructive.

(you can keep your shiftkeys by setting the profile.bin file in your game saves folder to read only, log in to the game and use as many keys as you want, sell whatever gear you find in the bonus chest that you don't want, then completely quit out of the game again. uncheck read only in profile.bin, then reload the game. Your original key number is back, and you keep whatever purple gear you had in your inventory/bank/whatever)

 

[bguile]

yeah, let's dupe it!

update: I found my "missing" Bunny and Psycho mod--they were in my earlier Maya save--I made a new/copy save when I created the Cat mod, so my old Maya managed to have those two bits in her inventory.

anyway--BD1 if you want the dupe or whatever, I'll hook you up next time you are on. and it wasn't a Legendary Torch, it was a Legendary Sickle:

http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Legendary_Sickle

Also, 3rd run on the skags at three horns this evening:

First this:

Then, of course, some of this:

And finally, after some running and screaming and a lot of shooting...eventually, this:

Yes I do, and that siren mod too!

 

[bguile]

the "overleveling" chance is just for digistruct. All you get is overleveled gear--no extra skip points or levels. So at max OP level, you should be facing level 80 or 82 mobs that will drop gear at that level, which you can equip.

I haven't started it yet, but I'm not sure if you can equip and use the gear outside of digistruct? seems like that would break the game outside of all solo raid boss attempts...

No you can take em out. Once you activate an OP level, its for that entire game, not just digi peak. After I finished rank 2, I went out an solo'd pete who drops an oplevel 2 big boom blaster. Also farmed up an OP level 2 DP Harold from the vending machine.

 

[Hinda65]

No you can take em out. Once you activate an OP level, its for that entire game, not just digi peak. After I finished rank 2, I went out an solo'd pete who drops an oplevel 2 big boom blaster. Also farmed up an OP level 2 DP Harold from the vending machine.

Wow...Sweet. So, OP level 2 is basically lvl 74. right?

How much damage does that Harold do?

 

[bguile]

Wow...Sweet. So, OP level 2 is basically lvl 74. right?

How much damage does that Harold do?

I'll have to check later. I need to farm up an OP level 5 now.

It is like level 74 as far as the enemies and loot are concerned, but your always gonna be level 72 except you can equip whatever equivalent or lower OP level item you are.

 

[bguile]

Axton, same weapons I finished the game with, so yes a few at my level and all of the best ones I’ve found on my last few levels. It just seems such a massive jump in hit points for every enemy and I still have the same weapons. I hope you get much better weapons soon or else there’s no point in going on. I need my sentry for every single fight now and even it's getting destroyed.

Unfortunately at each higher difficulty the game becomes a gear check, which a lot of people do not like. You should be able to make it with axton though, he is solid through most of the game. Torgue weapons, and skills which increase gun damage and explosive damage make him pretty powerful. Use golden keys, check the vending machines, do alot of slots and you should catch up with decent enough gear to keep going.

UVHM is even worse.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Unfortunately at each higher difficulty the game becomes a gear check, which a lot of people do not like. You should be able to make it with axton though, he is solid through most of the game. Torgue weapons, and skills which increase gun damage and explosive damage make him pretty powerful. Use golden keys, check the vending machines, do alot of slots and you should catch up with decent enough gear to keep going.

UVHM is even worse.

I found TVHM doable with just about any character, but UVHM is really frustrating solo. I have only tried it with zero and quit about a third of the way through. I may go back at some point, but the only really effective weapon was a rocket launcher, and of course I ran out of ammo quickly for that. Seems almost impossible to even bring down the shields, much less kill tougher enemies.

 

[bguile]

Wow...Sweet. So, OP level 2 is basically lvl 74. right?

How much damage does that Harold do?

Ok..its op3 not op2 and it is doing 321k.

lvl 72 was doing 226k

lvl 69 was doing 156k.

 

[bguile]

I found TVHM doable with just about any character, but UVHM is really frustrating solo. I have only tried it with zero and quit about a third of the way through. I may go back at some point, but the only really effective weapon was a rocket launcher, and of course I ran out of ammo quickly for that. Seems almost impossible to even bring down the shields, much less kill tougher enemies.

Melee or sniper zero? I just started with a pure sniper (no other weapons that sniper rifles) zero at level 51.

 

[zinfamous]

So in Digistruct, death = fail = complete restart? goddamnit... yeah--died at the first spider bot thingies.

another strangely lucky run last night--was finishing up that sapling quest in the forest, got a nicely upgraded Bee from one of the treants in the blood pond, and upon returning to Flamerock, a tubby bone spawned at that spot near where Roland stands and dropped a legendary Ninja mod.

wasn't even farming.

Now, if I only I can get those rats to drop a Storm Front for me. I figured that with essentially 5 chances at a drop each time you kill them (including the loot rat guy hanging out in their living room), this would be quick.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Melee or sniper zero? I just started with a pure sniper (no other weapons that sniper rifles) zero at level 51.

Sniper. Didnt put any points into melee at all. I just am not good at it, and I dont see how it can be effective against bosses, although some say melee Zero is a really powerful build.

Although I have a lot of high level characters, I dont consider myself a really good player, as I am older and the eyes and reflexes are not what they were. So some may be able to handle UVHM solo without much problem. I also did not have particularly good gear when I started the UVHM playthrough. I switched to playing some of the DLC and did some different classes rather than just keep beating my head against the wall in UVHM mode. I do intend to go back or try it with Zero again or with another class at some point, and as I said, some with better gear or more skill may find it not so difficult.

 

[zinfamous]

Sniper. Didnt put any points into melee at all. I just am not good at it, and I dont see how it can be effective against bosses, although some say melee Zero is a really powerful build.

Although I have a lot of high level characters, I dont consider myself a really good player, as I am older and the eyes and reflexes are not what they were. So some may be able to handle UVHM solo without much problem. I also did not have particularly good gear when I started the UVHM playthrough. I switched to playing some of the DLC and did some different classes rather than just keep beating my head against the wall in UVHM mode. I do intend to go back or try it with Zero again or with another class at some point, and as I said, some with better gear or more skill may find it not so difficult.

the mele build can actually work against bosses and even raid bosses, but for the latter it requires some specific gear, like that honeycomb launcher (well, anything that acts like it, really), that will instantly build your damage stacks so that you can go into deception and more or less one-shot them. It's hilarious, but extremely gear-dependent. Now, I haven't done this yet; I've only watched videos. Deception through end-game mobs is pretty awesome, though.

But I have had the same problem with Zer0, even at the end of normal playthrough where you are only level 33 or 34 and bosses are just tough--I have been going mele only. At that level, though, the Law and Order combo is quite nice. The damage isn't stellar, but you stay alive quite effectively. I've only just started TVHM (to Sanctuary, anyway) with him as I have focused on the Siren more

 

[Elfear]

Sniper. Didnt put any points into melee at all. I just am not good at it, and I dont see how it can be effective against bosses, although some say melee Zero is a really powerful build.

Although I have a lot of high level characters, I dont consider myself a really good player, as I am older and the eyes and reflexes are not what they were. So some may be able to handle UVHM solo without much problem. I also did not have particularly good gear when I started the UVHM playthrough. I switched to playing some of the DLC and did some different classes rather than just keep beating my head against the wall in UVHM mode. I do intend to go back or try it with Zero again or with another class at some point, and as I said, some with better gear or more skill may find it not so difficult.

I played a sniper Zero through VHM and TVHM without a problem. Once I hit UVHM though I kept dying left and right. Enemies just did too much damage and it was getting frustrating.

Then I discovered melee Zero. Who would have thought a skinny guy was such a tank! With the right equipment, UVHM becomes doable without dying all the time. Here is the equipment I recommend:

Solo
Love Thumper shield
Moxxi's Rubi (evisceration is best, +50% melee damage)
Legendary Hunter mod
Slag Rapier (from pirate DLC) +200% melee damage
Cooldown/Melee relic
Stormfront grenade mod (or another grenade that has a 0 sec fuse time and does enough damage to fully deplete your shield)

Co-op
Same as solo except switch the Love Thumper for the Hide of Terramorphous Shield (burn resistant is best IMO). The Love Thumper is much easier to manage but it is one of only a few items in the game that will damage your teammates (spike damage in this case). Learned that the hard way.

Do a Google search for "Zero Melee Build" and you'll get a good list of the skills you want to have in your tree. IIRC, it's almost all the skills in your melee tree minus Grim. Plus you'll want a few in the middle tree.

With the gear above, you deplete your shield to zero which activates all of your shield's roid damage (easiest way is throwing a grenade at your feet). You can then start meleeing with the Rapier and switch out with the Rubi when health gets low (the Rubi gives you ~17% of the damage you do back in health).

You can use Deception to great effect as well which is why the Cooldown bonuses help. Jump into Deception, throw your kunai, and hit the enemy from behind for max damage which will hopefully kill it and restart your Deception. Restarting Deception will allow you to throw your kunai again and begin the process over again.

With your shield fully depleted and meleeing from behind with the Rapier, continuous Deception is devastating. I was seriously floored how much more powerful I was vs a sniper build in UVHM. Even if you can't quit kill your opponent in one hit, you can hit it a few times with Rubi until Deception becomes available again.

A melee build works well with bosses although there is more strategy involved and I suggest watching some Youtube videos to get some good tips.

Hope that helps.

 

[zinfamous]

Co-op
Same as solo except switch the Love Thumper for the Hide of Terramorphous Shield (burn resistant is best IMO). The Love Thumper is much easier to manage but it is one of only a few items in the game that will damage your teammates (spike damage in this case). Learned that the hard way.

Do a Google search for "Zero Melee Build" and you'll get a good list of the skills you want to have in your tree. IIRC, it's almost all the skills in your melee tree minus Grim. Plus you'll want a few in the middle tree.

With the gear above, you deplete your shield to zero which activates all of your shield's roid damage (easiest way is throwing a grenade at your feet). You can then start meleeing with the Rapier and switch out with the Rubi when health gets low (the Rubi gives you ~17% of the damage you do back in health).

You can use Deception to great effect as well which is why the Cooldown bonuses help. Jump into Deception, throw your kunai, and hit the enemy from behind for max damage which will hopefully kill it and restart your Deception. Restarting Deception will allow you to throw your kunai again and begin the process over again.

With your shield fully depleted and meleeing from behind with the Rapier, continuous Deception is devastating. I was seriously floored how much more powerful I was vs a sniper build in UVHM. Even if you can't quit kill your opponent in one hit, you can hit it a few times with Rubi until Deception becomes available again.

A melee build works well with bosses although there is more strategy involved and I suggest watching some Youtube videos to get some good tips.

Hope that helps.

ah OK, was about to say--mele build with only a few skills in the middle tree? what about the kunai?

Both elites is easy enough to get.

 

[bguile]

Sniper. Didnt put any points into melee at all. I just am not good at it, and I dont see how it can be effective against bosses, although some say melee Zero is a really powerful build.

Although I have a lot of high level characters, I dont consider myself a really good player, as I am older and the eyes and reflexes are not what they were. So some may be able to handle UVHM solo without much problem. I also did not have particularly good gear when I started the UVHM playthrough. I switched to playing some of the DLC and did some different classes rather than just keep beating my head against the wall in UVHM mode. I do intend to go back or try it with Zero again or with another class at some point, and as I said, some with better gear or more skill may find it not so difficult.

I think with CA being the way it is, there is just not much hope for a traditional sniper build to work which sucks, big time. At least in UVHM that is. I guess you can make it work by using a low level high firing sniper to run your stacks up, then switch to your leveled guns, but that is just messed up.

 

[Hopeless]

OK I finished the normal game, level 38, started true vault hunter mode or whatever it’s called and I’m finding it a total slog. It’s a tedious grind to kill anything even with my best weapons. Having to headshot a normal bandit 4-5 times and him still being totally fine is not fun at all. Where has all the fun gone? This game was awesome on my first playthrough.

Axton, same weapons I finished the game with, so yes a few at my level and all of the best ones I’ve found on my last few levels. It just seems such a massive jump in hit points for every enemy and I still have the same weapons. I hope you get much better weapons soon or else there’s no point in going on. I need my sentry for every single fight now and even it's getting destroyed.

Axton was the first I played also and was pretty much where you are now. I ended up going back to VH and farmed the Warrior for a bit. Got some good purples that helped in TVH.

Which direction did you go with your build?

 

[bguile]

FYI:

Community Day heads and skins were released as *rare* limited time drops. However you can get them all by just running and shooting the ice blocks from claptraps place to knuckledragger in normal difficulty. You get about 1-2 a run.

 

[OCNewbie]

FYI:

Community Day heads and skins were released as *rare* limited time drops. However you can get them all by just running and shooting the ice blocks from claptraps place to knuckledragger in normal difficulty. You get about 1-2 a run.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[zinfamous]

FYI:

Community Day heads and skins were released as *rare* limited time drops. However you can get them all by just running and shooting the ice blocks from claptraps place to knuckledragger in normal difficulty. You get about 1-2 a run.

ohhhhhhh, I guess I was doinitrong.