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JEDIYoda

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i tend to agree with him though

any man regularly crying in public at his job in front of thousands of people (and on TV) is a baby

he obviously never learned to control his emotion, which is something every man should have done by the time he turned 10











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Your so full of it......you have no clue at all!!
 
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I'm sure the Pope told him he is going to rot in the hell where he belongs.

History will forever show his hate for America and the damage he has done to it and thus the world and he knows it.

Every one of the rest of his Republican Cabal should resign as well.

It makes me sad that I'd be quoted in a post like this.....
 

Mxylplyx

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The political reality here is that this Congress AND this President don't effectively lead or compromise. Let's get everyone on record here and move on imo...let the voters decide who best represents their interests next election.

Do you not think that voters are already keenly aware of where each party stands on abortion access? Is Obama going on the record to protect planned parenthood funding really going to be that stunning of a revelation? What you and your party are really advocating is once again perpetuating a government shutdown to see if Obama blinks. Obama IS going to veto any bill that reaches his desk with a planned parenthood rider. The question is, what then? Polls already indicate that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, and once you push a government shutdown, you are essentially throwing the issue into the court of public opinion. So given current polling, and the overwhelming blame Republicans received for the last shutdown, just what do you think has changed to make you believe this is a winning strategy?
 

kage69

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Anyone that didn't cry in the first 10 minutes of the movie Up! has no EQ and probably struggles in all social situations and doesn't even know it.


That's not an unreasonable claim IMO.

On the issue of crying though, I think it's completely fair game to give Boehner shit about it. He cries more than many women I know (sorry ladies, no offense ) and it's pretty clear he doesn't do it to get attention.

Banana republicans think it's in poor taste to talk about because they've always been a little embarrassed by it. Like baseball, there's no crying in politics. Sack up man, your adversaries are watching. Self-control is no vice. As an adult you have the choice of how you present yourself: is the personal you going to be the public you?

I can understand someone being moved to tears by a horrific event, crushing sorrow where your body doesn't even listen to you, you just sob. Hearing about tiny kids at school being murdered en masse in detail, for instance. Crying over an Arnold Palmer tribute or some Irish music is not the same thing though, sorry Boehner. I think unless your last name is Biden, most politicians right now don't have many good excuses for cuing the water works on camera.
 
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Do you not think that voters are already keenly aware of where each party stands on abortion access? Is Obama going on the record to protect planned parenthood funding really going to be that stunning of a revelation? What you and your party are really advocating is once again perpetuating a government shutdown to see if Obama blinks. Obama IS going to veto any bill that reaches his desk with a planned parenthood rider. The question is, what then? Polls already indicate that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, and once you push a government shutdown, you are essentially throwing the issue into the court of public opinion. So given current polling, and the overwhelming blame Republicans received for the last shutdown, just what do you think has changed to make you believe this is a winning strategy?
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough on this point...I'm not advocating a government shutdown over this issue.
 

WHAMPOM

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He has finally tired of keeping a lid on crazy and now we will see their true colors come out. Poor man!
 

brianmanahan

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I cried a couple weeks ago as my friend lay dying. You know nothing.

sorry to hear that

i have been to many funerals for friends and family members but have never seen any of the men in my extended family ever cry at one, myself included

it is not something that is done. working on the farm, we were all told to behave like a man starting at about age 5 or 6.
 
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Mxylplyx

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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough on this point...I'm not advocating a government shutdown over this issue.

So what are you advocating? Sending bills to the presidents desk just so he can veto it? Do you think the hard liners in congress will be satisfied when Boehner's successor comes back to them with "oh well, we tried"? I see alot of talk about the want for a speaker that "gets tough" with Obama without any indication of what that actually means.
 

JulesMaximus

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I'm the same way. I changed course in 2002. I actually voted for Dole and wanted McCain in 2000.

I probably would have voted for McCain in 2008 but when he picked that moron Sarah Palin as his running mate that clinched it for me. No way was I voting for Romney either. I didn't vote for Bush in 2004 either.
 
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So what are you advocating? Sending bills to the presidents desk just so he can veto it? Do you think the hard liners in congress will be satisfied when Boehner's successor comes back to them with "oh well, we tried"? I see alot of talk about the want for a speaker that "gets tough" with Obama without any indication of what that actually means.
I don't know how I can be any clearer than what I've already stated.
 

Moonbeam

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maybe, but didn't have much of a choice really.

by the time you realize what sort of stuff shaped you, there isn't usually any way to undo it

Only because now you are so arrogant you won't listen to people who know more than you do. You see mentally healthier people as an existential threat. You are a prisoner of your own unconscious bigotry, the assumptions you hold and of which you aren't even aware and thus can't even begin to undo. You need humility and you feel humility to be a weakness. So you're stuck. Perhaps your notion of masculinity will eventually ruin your life and break the back of your arrogance, if you are lucky. The concern an compassion of others to help you doesn't seem to work with you. Have a nice wasted tough guy life in the mean time, you poor pathetic boob. I will cry for you in the meantime. I will bow my head and live in the world of cold hate your lack of capacity for empathy creates and suffer willingly. Father forgive these stupid brain dead assholes for they know not what they do. Is that masculine enough for you, you pathetic prick?
 

K1052

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I wonder if this wasn't a deal to keep the government open. 'Pass an appropriations bill without defunding PP, and I'll step down'.

Edit: Called it.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/09/25/boehner-resigns/

There is now some speculation that after a clean CR passes he'll shove a debt ceiling increase and the Ex-Im reauthorization through using the Senate and Democratic votes in the House to bypass the radicals in his own party….giving them the finger on the way out so to speak.
 

Mxylplyx

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There is now some speculation that after a clean CR passes he'll shove a debt ceiling increase and the Ex-Im reauthorization through using the Senate and Democratic votes in the House to bypass the radicals in his own party….giving them the finger on the way out so to speak.

He should just go all the way and eliminate the debt ceiling altogether.
 

CitizenKain

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boehner was a rino. Now we can have a true™ conservative in charge.

But..what if the next True Conservative, isn't? What if they do something like compromise? What if they do something like acknowledge that Obama is the president? Then they can't be a True Conservative and must be removed.
 

JSt0rm

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But..what if the next True Conservative, isn't? What if they do something like compromise? What if they do something like acknowledge that Obama is the president? Then they can't be a True Conservative and must be removed.


ITs a ever sliding scale to the right so they will be a true conservative for a few years and then they will be too liberal.

The repubs are hp lovecraft mutated beings that become more and more fish demon with every generation.
 

blankslate

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I'm pretty sure that Speaker Boehner is leaving because a far right segment of the House of Representatives resent the fact that he hasn't been even more of a hardliner when it came to dealing with President Obama.

If I am right expect a person to the right of Speaker Boehner, even if he seems reasonable at first.

I hope I am wrong though.


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trenchfoot

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The Repubs own this. All of it. The Dems have nothing to do with the internal war the Repubs are presently waging among themselves.

If I recall, it started the day Obama took office and both McConnell and Boehner declared war on him via "obstruct obstruct obstruct" so as to make him a one term president. These two guys clearly didn't have the foresight or situational awareness about what their Declaration of War against Obama and the ridiculously hyped up propaganda war on him was going to do to the wingnuts from within. McConnell and Boehner unintentionally gave them the encouragement and the means to take over their party AND their (McConnell - Boehner) control over their own legislators.

Remember how Repubs in the Tea Party were having their own internal struggles winnowing out those members that weren't "conservative enough" thus creating a shitload of splinter groups and how the Parent Repub Party was struggling with their own version of that purge?

Result: A lurch that took the party so far to the right that the party became operationally crippled and impotent other than enhancing its stated ability to "obstruct obstruct and obstruct some more." In reality, that's all they've been doing. And they've been in self-destruct mode ever since, never mind that they've been taking the nation down with them. * Gov't shutdowns anyone? More of the same?

The passing of time will historically clarify and immortalize this. Repubs will try to re-write it or bury it the moment they take back power - if ever.

edit - It really doesn't matter who replaces Boehner. The successor will face the same party-induced gridlock they created for themselves.
 
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