Boehner being reported as resigning.

[JSt0rm]

its started way before those 2. The moment the gop started to rely upon the evangelical vote and had all those churches telling people how to vote they lost control.

 

[TheSlamma]

maybe, but didn't have much of a choice really.

by the time you realize what sort of stuff shaped you, there isn't usually any way to undo it

Yeah I don't buy it, I think emotional intelligence can be raised with age and wisdom, but you have to have an open mind to allow it.

Obviously most older people do not have the capabilities that a developing brain of a child has, but the counter to that is being self aware of that and then doing something about it.

“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” -Hemingway

 

[kage69]

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. - Jack Handy

 

[DrDoug]

I actually am a Boehner fan. Despite clearly not agreeing with his policy preferences I think he's done a reasonably good job in an almost impossible situation. The hard right has been trying to oust him for years now, and my strong suspicion is that they have succeeded.

I wonder what the final straw was?

I think Orange Julius is taking one for the team and preventing another government shutdown that the crazies on his side are drooling to make happen. Now he can work with Pelosi, get a spending bill passed, walk away from the nightmare his party has become and into some well paid gig that pays seven figures for doing next to nothing. McCarthy is probably going to get the Speaker spot, which ought to send the teabaggers into a frenzy. OK, a frothing frenzy. What, they are already at frothing frenzy?

What a fucking mess the Republican party has become...

 

[Jaepheth]

I think we should switch to a Instant runoff system of voting so that the parties can fracture into more natural groupings.

Having two parties held together mostly by how much they despise the opposing party isn't really helping anyone.

 

[trenchfoot]

I think we should switch to a Instant runoff system of voting so that the parties can fracture into more natural groupings.

Having two parties held together mostly by how much they despise the opposing party isn't really helping anyone.

Sig worthy.:thumbsup:

BUT! those other guys threw the first punch, we're the innocent party just looking for some righteous payback.

 

[Balt]

I don't like Boehner's politics, but the way Cruz and other tea partiers have bashed him since he announced his resignation has been disgraceful. When Rubio announced it at some support function he was attending, the room erupted in cheers.

They seem to be under the delusion that somehow Boehner was the only thing that prevented them from accomplishing every single thing they wanted. They're going to get a wake-up call real soon.

 

[rockyct]

I don't like Boehner's politics, but the way Cruz and other tea partiers have bashed him since he announced his resignation has been disgraceful. When Rubio announced it at some support function he was attending, the room erupted in cheers.

They seem to be under the delusion that somehow Boehner was the only thing that prevented them from accomplishing every single thing they wanted. They're going to get a wake-up call real soon.

What will be even more hilarious is to watch Boehner screw them over one last time by forgoing the Hastert Rule and allow Democrats and a few Republicans to pass whatever bills need to be passed in the next year before the 2016 election. If they were mad before, then they are going to go insane as Boehner becomes a wolf in sheep's clothes to them.

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't like Boehner's politics, but the way Cruz and other tea partiers have bashed him since he announced his resignation has been disgraceful. When Rubio announced it at some support function he was attending, the room erupted in cheers.

They seem to be under the delusion that somehow Boehner was the only thing that prevented them from accomplishing every single thing they wanted. They're going to get a wake-up call real soon.

If boehner is truly the last voice of reason in the gop they/we are in for some rough times.

 

[DrDoug]

I don't like Boehner's politics, but the way Cruz and other tea partiers have bashed him since he announced his resignation has been disgraceful. When Rubio announced it at some support function he was attending, the room erupted in cheers.

They seem to be under the delusion that somehow Boehner was the only thing that prevented them from accomplishing every single thing they wanted. They're going to get a wake-up call real soon.

Fuck, that line made me laugh my ass off until I almost choked. The rabid fuckers that are running the asylum now couldn't be woken up if you set a nuke off near them. The Republican party created and fed the monster they call their base and now it is coming to eat them.

"Brainnnnnnssssssss....." :biggrin:

 

[boomerang]

Poll: 72% of GOP Voters Dissatisfied with Boehner, McConnell

That includes 44 percent of GOP primary voters who said they were "very" dissatisfied with Boehner and McConnell, and 36 percent who want them immediately removed from their leadership positions.

These poll results -- conducted Sunday through Thursday -- come as Boehner announced on Friday morning his resignation as speaker, effective on Oct. 30.

According to the poll, 28 percent of GOP primary voters said they were "somewhat dissatisfied" with Boehner's and McConnell's ability to achieve Republican goals and priorities, while 44 percent said they were "very dissatisfied."

By contrast, 21 percent were "somewhat satisfied" and just 2 percent were "very satisfied."

 

[Phynaz]

I'm sure the Pope told him he is going to rot in the hell where he belongs.

History will forever show his hate for America and the damage he has done to it and thus the world and he knows it.

Every one of the rest of his Republican Cabal should resign as well.

Speaking of extremists.

 

[theeedude]

Poll: 72% of GOP Voters Dissatisfied with Boehner, McConnell

72% of GOP voters are just dissatisfied. Boehner and Mitch are just current objects of their dissatisfaction.

 

[dank69]

Poll: 72% of GOP Voters Dissatisfied with Boehner, McConnell

The sad part is they are dissatisfied with them for insane reasons.

 

[Charmonium]

Republicans should treat the teabaggers like the outcasts that they are. Except that will never happen since we then effectively have a 3 party system in which the dems would always win unless the GOP and TP could create some sort of coalition.

But even that wouldn't help them on the Congressional side since IIRC, committee chairmanships and other parliamentary proceedings are controlled by the majority party.

So for the foreseeable future you're going to have a deeply divided GOP that will continue to be as hamstrung and useless as they've been for the past decade.

I'm looking forward to seeing who the gop vote for to replace Boehner. I can imagine a situation where the teabaggers refuse to vote for anyone moderate and the moderate reps refuse to vote for any of the extremists. Except the moderates aren't likely to be as dogmatic so I'm assuming that the process will favor the extremists and we end up getting another govt shutdown - btw I think that's the real reason Boehner is getting out of Dodge. He knows what a clusterfuck this will turn into and how badly it's going to damage the party.

 

[Moonbeam]

Poll: 72% of GOP Voters Dissatisfied with Boehner, McConnell

72% of Republicans hate their own assholes.

 

[BxgJ]

72% of GOP voters are just dissatisfied. Boehner and Mitch are just current objects of their dissatisfaction

The sad part is they are dissatisfied with them for insane reasons.

Bingo. I talk to enough of them, they will be this way until they get what they want. I ask what they want, they get confused and ramble incoherently. All they really know is they are mad, and its either dems or rhinos they are mad at, depending on the 'message of the day'.

Of course they aren't going to get what they want, so they will just get more mad. Then the far right pols will feed that anger, which will result in more anger when their demands aren't met.

I wonder how long this cycle can go on?

edit - I am referring to the tea party types here, not all republicans.

 

[trenchfoot]

72% of Republicans hate their own assholes.

Methinks that goes head in cornhole with the attitude that "Hey, I was never asked to be born, let alone being born a Republican. I was born to be a.......uhhhhh.....a-a-a REAL Republican, you know.......different."

 

[waggy]

72% of GOP voters are just dissatisfied. Boehner and Mitch are just current objects of their dissatisfaction.

My parents are GOP members. They are disgusted with how the party is headed. they are sliding so far to the (err i always get right left tag mixed up) whatever side (crazy side).

it's insane to see where the GOP is headed and the outcome. it can't continue as it is.

 

[Balt]

Fuck, that line made me laugh my ass off until I almost choked. The rabid fuckers that are running the asylum now couldn't be woken up if you set a nuke off near them. The Republican party created and fed the monster they call their base and now it is coming to eat them.

"Brainnnnnnssssssss....." :biggrin:

Well I can see the next few months going a few different ways, but none of them end with the Tea Party getting what it wants no matter how much they stomp their feet.

Boehner will get the continuing resolution through, since everyone knows he's out the door and they can just pick up the fight again later.

When the CR runs out I think either:

1) The new speaker realizes, perhaps after another government shutdown, that he's going to have to do the same thing Boehner did. Pass a clean budget with the help of the Democrats.

or

2) The speaker refuses to abandon the Tea Party caucus, government shutdown drags on long enough that it actually becomes a real government shutdown (ie not this bullshit 'shutdown' where 90% of federal employees still show up to work and don't get paid). People get pissed because the stock market tanks, they can't get passports, airports become a mess, the government services they actually know and use aren't available, etc. Republicans still eventually capitulate because they are taking the majority of the blame and 2016 is an election year. The Tea Party will still probably refuse to cooperate since they just want to watch the world burn, but perhaps they'll lose this delusion that they just need a 'strong leader' to get everything that they want.

 

[Charmonium]

My parents are GOP members. They are disgusted with how the party is headed. they are sliding so far to the (err i always get right left tag mixed up) whatever side (crazy side).

it's insane to see where the GOP is headed and the outcome. it can't continue as it is.

That's the problem with true believers. The more they feel the world is against them, the more it confirms their belief in their own righteousness. It's a perverted way of looking at the world but when you understand that many if not the majority of these people see themselves as Christian martyrs living in the time of the Anti-Christ. It wouldn't bother me as much if I thought they really understood the origins of their own faith but with almost everything they say and do they prove that they're no different or better than the jihadists - jesus-hadists.

 

[Charmonium]

2) The speaker refuses to abandon the Tea Party caucus, government shutdown drags on long enough that it actually becomes a real government shutdown (ie not this bullshit 'shutdown' where 90% of federal employees still show up to work and don't get paid). People get pissed because the stock market tanks, they can't get passports, airports become a mess, the government services they actually know and use aren't available, etc. Republicans still eventually capitulate because they are taking the majority of the blame and 2016 is an election year.

That's the scenario I 'pray' for. Get all of the dingbat Rep candidates to come out in support of the shutdown - which the hard right wingers will lap up like coke off of a prostitute's snatch. Then you have an unelectable clown car republican who gets the nomination and they get eviscerated in the general election.

What will really be entertaining will be to see if Trump follows the herd on this. Despite being a blowhard, I don't think he's a complete idiot. So my guess is that he'll oppose the shutdown and his poll numbers will drop like a rock. But hopefully I'm underestimating the average Rep voter.

 

[JSt0rm]

That's the problem with true believers. The more they feel the world is against them, the more it confirms their belief in their own righteousness. It's a perverted way of looking at the world but when you understand that many if not the majority of these people see themselves as Christian martyrs living in the time of the Anti-Christ. It wouldn't bother me as much if I thought they really understood the origins of their own faith but with almost everything they say and do they prove that they're no different or better than the jihadists - jesus-hadists.

Its the same people just different cultural backgrounds.

 

[TheGardener]

Dems will miss Boehner. Incompetent boob.

 

[Jaskalas]

What a fucking mess the Republican party has become...

It's a choice between Neocons and Teaparty.

Boehner was of the establishment, like Bush, McCain, Romney, etc.
After the Bush Presidency, we're out to stop Neocons from representing us.