Boehner being reported as resigning.

[Indus]

Dems will miss Boehner. Incompetent boob.

No they won't.. this will help the chance of a return of Speaker Pelosi as GOP'ers have zero incentive to govern. They'll just throw a fit that they will hold the country hostage till the President leaves office.

Hurricane Sandy was the most devastating hurricane this decade and no aid money was passed by the GOP republicans. Boehner needed Pelosi's help to get aid out to Americans who were hurting.

Never forget that. Kicking Americans when they're down.. the GOP mantra.

 

[TheGardener]

No they won't.. this will help the chance of a return of Speaker Pelosi as GOP'ers have zero incentive to govern. They'll just throw a fit that they will hold the country hostage till the President leaves office.

Hurricane Sandy was the most devastating hurricane this decade and no aid money was passed by the GOP republicans. Boehner needed Pelosi's help to get aid out to Americans who were hurting.

Never forget that. Kicking Americans when they're down.. the GOP mantra.

If the Republicans do nothing, as Boehner is only hot air, then they will use up all the goodwill that the American people have given them. History will repeat itself, as it did under Gingrich who yapped and yapped a storm, but did nothing. So the Republicans if they want to retain a majority in the House and Senate, have to make changes. Changes in the Senate are less likely as the Republicans just go along to get along. If McConnell goes, then Senator Congeniality or aka The Maverick, would take over and just blow hot air and continue the go along to get along agenda. Not what the American people want.

 

[theeedude]

Republicans don't have any good will from the American people. They got elected on their base's hatred of Obama, not American people's good will towards them.

 

[DrDoug]

Well I can see the next few months going a few different ways, but none of them end with the Tea Party getting what it wants no matter how much they stomp their feet.

Boehner will get the continuing resolution through, since everyone knows he's out the door and they can just pick up the fight again later.

When the CR runs out I think either:

1) The new speaker realizes, perhaps after another government shutdown, that he's going to have to do the same thing Boehner did. Pass a clean budget with the help of the Democrats.

or

2) The speaker refuses to abandon the Tea Party caucus, government shutdown drags on long enough that it actually becomes a real government shutdown (ie not this bullshit 'shutdown' where 90% of federal employees still show up to work and don't get paid). People get pissed because the stock market tanks, they can't get passports, airports become a mess, the government services they actually know and use aren't available, etc. Republicans still eventually capitulate because they are taking the majority of the blame and 2016 is an election year. The Tea Party will still probably refuse to cooperate since they just want to watch the world burn, but perhaps they'll lose this delusion that they just need a 'strong leader' to get everything that they want.

Agree that the TP probably doesn't get what it wants but in the meantime the crazies are going to try to kill anyone they view as the enemy on their side. Boehner resigning is chum in the water for the sharks among the TP.

It's a choice between Neocons and Teaparty.

Boehner was of the establishment, like Bush, McCain, Romney, etc.
After the Bush Presidency, we're out to stop Neocons from representing us.

See... lol!

 

[Jhhnn]

It's a choice between Neocons and Teaparty.

Boehner was of the establishment, like Bush, McCain, Romney, etc.
After the Bush Presidency, we're out to stop Neocons from representing us.

The reason nobody has replied to that is that they're totally flabbergasted by it.

Tea Party Patriot types are among the most hawkish Americans. They cheered the invasion of Iraq & the creation of the prison at Gitmo before there was a Tea Party & claim that Obama never should have left. They stand shoulder to shoulder with AIPAC, Bibi & the Neocons in opposing the Iran deal. They love Dick Cheney & every other war mongering asshole who preys on their fears & their pride.

 

[boomerang]

The sad part is they are dissatisfied with them for insane reasons.

From your point of view, yes. I get it, nothing would be more pleasing than to have the opposing party carrying your water for you. With Boehner and McConnell you had that.

 

[MongGrel]

:hmm:

I missed this all together yesterday.

Just wow.

 

[pcgeek11]

McConnell needs to go as well.

This. Both need out.

Most Americans are fed up with their politicians Dem. and Rep. from what I hear talking to my friends of both parties.

 

[Moonbeam]

This. Both need out.

So true, so we can have a real congress on the left and be like Denmark, happy with our lives. But then, do you really want to be happy. Would you want to take a chance. I mean, there's the Apple Bonkers and the Blue Meanies just waiting for their chance.

 

[werepossum]

I wouldn't have been surprised about vacating the Speaker chair but I would never have guessed he would leave all together. His formal announcement could be very interesting.

Not many of them step down from seats of power to being only one of 425.

i tend to agree with him though

any man regularly crying in public at his job in front of thousands of people (and on TV) is a baby

he obviously never learned to control his emotion, which is something every man should have done by the time he turned 10

Agreed. When a man cries there'd better be a dead person or a dead dog. And it had better be a dead big dog, not one of those ear-splitting lap rugs.

I get it that Boehner is more emotional than most, but your idea of what it means to be a man is much different than mine...compassion is a desirable human attribute in my world.

Agreed, but crying over how wonderful it is that you have achieved power isn't compassion, it's just not being able to control your emotions coupled with an extreme over-concentration on self.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm actually sympathetic towards Boehner. He's done his best to prevent the trainwreck unfolding in the Repub Party. He doesn't want to be the engineer when it finally jumps the rails.

Who would?

 

[trenchfoot]

I'm actually sympathetic towards Boehner. He's done his best to prevent the trainwreck unfolding in the Repub Party. He doesn't want to be the engineer when it finally jumps the rails.

Who would?

Agreed on all counts.

Given his unwinnable situation and the awful position the Party finds itself in, a very smart move on his part.

This particular political chess game is still in play though, I just hope it does as little damage to the nation as possible. But, that's apparently none of their concern at the moment, as self preservation and playing king of the hill seems to be the name of the game.

Nothing we can do but watch the Repub frag fest play itself out I guess.

 

[Charmonium]

I'm actually sympathetic towards Boehner. He's done his best to prevent the trainwreck unfolding in the Repub Party. He doesn't want to be the engineer when it finally jumps the rails.

Who would?

He was a whore for teabaggers for too long, so I'm happy to see him gone.

This is the result of the failed gop stategy of trying to co-opt the tea party. Except what ended up happening was that the tea baggers co-opt'ed the gop. That was inevitable. The republicans have been losing ground for decades. The only thing that saved them was redistricting in 2010.

So when the Reps saw the chance to incorporate the tea baggers, they jumped on it - only to find out, like Dr. Frankenstein, that their creation had turned against them.

But the union did bring them unprecedented recognition that the tea party never would have gotten on their own. And it helped the Reps shore up their declining membership.

I think the most interesting question though is the reason for the increasing polarization. Take a look at this chart of political attitudes over the past couple of decades.

 

[brianmanahan]

Only because now you are so arrogant you won't listen to people who know more than you do. You see mentally healthier people as an existential threat. You are a prisoner of your own unconscious bigotry, the assumptions you hold and of which you aren't even aware and thus can't even begin to undo. You need humility and you feel humility to be a weakness. So you're stuck. Perhaps your notion of masculinity will eventually ruin your life and break the back of your arrogance, if you are lucky. The concern an compassion of others to help you doesn't seem to work with you. Have a nice wasted tough guy life in the mean time, you poor pathetic boob. I will cry for you in the meantime. I will bow my head and live in the world of cold hate your lack of capacity for empathy creates and suffer willingly. Father forgive these stupid brain dead a**holes for they know not what they do. Is that masculine enough for you, you pathetic p***k?

yeah, i feel a lot better now, thanks

 

[disappoint]

lol, i have never cried at a movie in my life, even when i was a little kid

(and that includes Up)

Are you off your meds again? You really need to adhere to your doctor prescribed estrogen replacement therapy. I bet you didn't even laugh out loud when you wrote lol.

 

[brianmanahan]

I bet you didn't even laugh out loud when you wrote lol.

of course i did! otherwise it would be false advertising.

 

[Jhhnn]

He was a whore for teabaggers for too long, so I'm happy to see him gone.

This is the result of the failed gop stategy of trying to co-opt the tea party. Except what ended up happening was that the tea baggers co-opt'ed the gop. That was inevitable. The republicans have been losing ground for decades. The only thing that saved them was redistricting in 2010.

So when the Reps saw the chance to incorporate the tea baggers, they jumped on it - only to find out, like Dr. Frankenstein, that their creation had turned against them.

But the union did bring them unprecedented recognition that the tea party never would have gotten on their own. And it helped the Reps shore up their declining membership.

I think the most interesting question though is the reason for the increasing polarization. Take a look at this chart of political attitudes over the past couple of decades.

I think Boehner figured out that the Teahadists aren't there to govern but rather to tear down the govt for irrational "reasons" following the lead of Grover Norquist & the propagandists of the far right. Given independent mega billionaire funding & their own media outlets, Fox News among them, they took the Repub Party hostage & America as well.

Repubs brought it on themselves, of course, both in becoming too reliant on that big money & in radicalizing their base for decades. When the economy crashed & that black usurper was elected, the base was left in shock & denial, leaderless. But they still believed in the same stuff, of course, making them easy prey for what really is a very well executed astroturf campaign. It's all based on BAP, on continuously generating bullshit to simply overwhelm the information channels. They get their bullshit out front every chance they get, constantly on the attack. It's what Repubs have done for a long while, themselves, so it's only fitting that they should be the victim of their own creation.

Hell, they brought it on themselves when they created a tax & financial regulation system that allows anybody the financial firepower to have such an effect on the electoral process.

The polarization? Those who shifted right have been successfully propagandized. Those who shifted left understand that the only counter to corporate power is govt power & that the only alternative to non-production of decent paying stable jobs by private industry is production of govt jobs & expanded services if we're to sustain a broad middle class.

If the Job Creators fulfilled their claimed societal role we wouldn't need to do that nearly so much.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

If you haven't already, meet the heir apparent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYsdcoe0Js
This guy just isn't ready. And the election for SotH is in one week.

 

[trenchfoot]

If you haven't already, meet the heir apparent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYsdcoe0Js
This guy just isn't ready. And the election for SotH is in one week.

Can you just imagine how many Repub Congress critter's jaws dropped to the floor, how many chairs got thrown through the windows, how many "WTF's he saying here?" got screamed out loud and how many heads got repeatedly banged off the walls and desks on that side of the aisle when he let loose with that unintended confession to the world? lol

Really great way to introduce himself to his colleagues with hat in hand as he begs for the House Speaker's job ain't it? Right from the get-go he sticks both of his feet down his throat.

The clown act over there in Pubbie land just keeps on get'in better and better all the time.

edit - And Boehner must still be having chronic tummy cramps from laughing his ass off over this. Revenge and retribution comes in mysterious ways sometimes.

 

[hal2kilo]

If you haven't already, meet the heir apparent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYsdcoe0Js
This guy just isn't ready. And the election for SotH is in one week.

Holy shit! This guy doesn't even speak in coherent sentences, and constantly mixes his plural context. Where does this party get these from under the rocks creatures.

I'm expecting my reply to be diagramed and corrected by the usual suspects.

Always divert.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I heard him on the news last night. For a speaker he is a horrible speaker.

 

[K1052]

Looks like the Ex-Im Bank reauthorization is starting to move now that the clean CR is done. Reports that moderate Republicans will use a discharge petition to force a vote and pass it with Democratic votes, bypassing their uncooperative radicals. There is no way the moderates would step out like this without Boehner's support.

 

[Charmonium]

If you haven't already, meet the heir apparent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYsdcoe0Js
This guy just isn't ready. And the election for SotH is in one week.

Lowest common denominator is always the cardinal rule of politics - meet your lowest common denominator, well, on the republican side anyway. :whiste:

 

[Balt]

If you haven't already, meet the heir apparent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYsdcoe0Js
This guy just isn't ready. And the election for SotH is in one week.

Clarity and persuasiveness don't appear to be among his strengths. Once the CR expires, I think we might be in trouble.

Looks like the Ex-Im Bank reauthorization is starting to move now that the clean CR is done. Reports that moderate Republicans will use a discharge petition to force a vote and pass it with Democratic votes, bypassing their uncooperative radicals. There is no way the moderates would step out like this without Boehner's support.

I don't know much about the ExIm bank, but I have trouble understanding the controversy based on my limited knowledge. It appears that they loan money to foreign entities (so that they can buy American goods), but since they're generating a surplus apparently the loans are being paid back. What's the problem?

 

[K1052]

I don't know much about the ExIm bank, but I have trouble understanding the controversy based on my limited knowledge. It appears that they loan money to foreign entities (so that they can buy American goods), but since they're generating a surplus apparently the loans are being paid back. What's the problem?

That's basically the size of it. They underwrite loans mostly for stuff like planes and industrial equipment that's made here. The radical conservatives picked on it because it needs to be reauthorized every four years and they could stymie it while the rest of their legislative hopes and dreams died in the light of political reality.

The argument that private sector loans will make up for the loss of it is basically moot since everyone else we compete against for these sales has an export credit agency like the Ex-Im and the cost for private loan guarantees will invariably be higher than what the agencies can offer which makes US goods less competitive financially.

Boehner wanted to see it reauthorized but knew he couldn't get it past the radicals without sacrificing his position. Now that doesn't matter so I suspect he's engineered this plot to move it forward and will largely remain quiet while he lets it progress to a probable passing vote.