Boehner being reported as resigning.

[Fanatical Meat]

Sounding like Ryan will take it and possibly shelve his Presidential ambitions.
Ryan is a policy guy he may be the best candidate for this time.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sounding like Ryan will take it and possibly shelve his Presidential ambitions.
Ryan is a policy guy he may be the best candidate for this time.

What about his vaunted concern for being with his kids as a father. If he takes the job we will know that was all bullshit self flattering nobility.

 

[Sonikku]

Don't know if tired of the job or a political masterstroke.

 

[dank69]

I don't think that's it. He knows how the House works. I think it's either the Benghazi statement or the affair rumor.

Seems it may have been the case:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/08/3710662/mccarthy-uncogovernable-house-rock-bottom/

 

[dank69]

Issa wants to throw his hat in the ring. God help us all.

 

[Brainonska511]

Sounding like Ryan will take it and possibly shelve his Presidential ambitions.
Ryan is a policy guy he may be the best candidate for this time.

The latest articles I read stated the opposite. Taking the speaker position will not help Ryan on his presidential ambitions and would likely hurt him. He also has outwardly stated numerous times that he does not want the speaker job. And he's also big on tax policy, and being chair of the Ways and Means Committee gives him the opportunity he wants to steer that ship, without having to contend with a fractured caucus.

http://nyti.ms/1jSB8bS

"While Mr. Ryan may ultimately yield to the entreaties of his colleagues, he has ample reasons not to want the gavel. It is hardly clear that the job will be any easier for him than it was for Mr. Boehner, especially because conservatives are demanding changes in how the House operates that will only diminish the speaker’s power. And Mr. Ryan’s prospective presidential ambitions would not be enhanced by serving as speaker."

 

[Fanatical Meat]

^^^You missed the word SHELVE

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What about his vaunted concern for being with his kids as a father. If he takes the job we will know that was all bullshit self flattering nobility.

The guy is a father its a concern and its also something the family can agree upon.

I'm not a Ryan fan in any way but no need to throw stones at the guy.

 

[Blackjack200]

Seems it may have been the case:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/08/3710662/mccarthy-uncogovernable-house-rock-bottom/

Looks like he straight up didn't have the votes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...78a374-6de8-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

 

[Charmonium]

The republicans remind me of a little boy who runs away from home because somebody made him eat his peas. I think most kids are smart enough not to do something that stupid but then you have those that are and need to get molested in a dirty gas station bathroom a couple of time before they realize that things back home weren't so bad.

 

[JEDI]

Looks like he straight up didn't have the votes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...78a374-6de8-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

he had the votes to be nominated by the GOP.
he didn't have the 218 needed to be Speaker.
but he knew that weeks ago.

he was like 20votes shy.
no dem would vote for him.
the block of 40 or so hard-right wackos said no unless he caved into their tantrum demands.

I guess the last chance wheeling and dealing failed and he pulled out at the last sec.

 

[theeedude]

he had the votes to be nominated by the GOP.
he didn't have the 218 needed to be Speaker.
but he knew that weeks ago.

he was like 20votes shy.
no dem would vote him in.
the hard-right wackos said no unless he caved into their tantrum demands.

I guess the last chance minute wheeling and dealing failed and he pulled out at the last sec.

No Dem would vote for him without getting something in return for the Democrats. But a coalition vote was possible with compromise.

 

[Blackjack200]

No Dem would vote for him without getting something in return for the Democrats. But a coalition vote was possible with compromise.

He would have been severely tarnished if he needed D votes to be elected. The article I read (don't remember if it was the WaPo piece) said it's very unusual to vote cross-party for SoH.

 

[JEDI]

He would have been severely tarnished if he needed D votes to be elected. The article I read (don't remember if it was the WaPo piece) said it's very unusual to vote cross-party for SoH.

Is there any repub not running for re-election (besides bohemer)?

s/he can form a coalition of moderate repubs + dems to get the 218 and say FU to all those extremists.

 

[dank69]

Is there any repub not running for re-election (besides bohemer)?

s/he can form a coalition of moderate repubs + dems to get the 218 and say FU to all those extremists.

They all run for re-election every 2 years.

 

[theeedude]

He would have been severely tarnished if he needed D votes to be elected. The article I read (don't remember if it was the WaPo piece) said it's very unusual to vote cross-party for SoH.

Why is it tarnishing to compromise with moderates of another party? The Republicans need Democrat moderates to pass budgets and raise debt ceilings anyways, since there are enough nut-jobs in their party to block even those routines.

 

[fskimospy]

Why is it tarnishing to compromise with moderates of another party? The Republicans need Democrat moderates to pass budgets and raise debt ceilings anyways, since there are enough nut-jobs in their party to block even those routines.

Because of primaries.

 

[IronWing]

Because of primaries.

Primaries need to go. Caucuses are a far better way to pick candidates.

 

[Blackjack200]

Why is it tarnishing to compromise with moderates of another party? The Republicans need Democrat moderates to pass budgets and raise debt ceilings anyways, since there are enough nut-jobs in their party to block even those routines.

As much as we make fun of the crazy hardliners in the Republican party, they are enabled by a vicious hatred for Obama (and by extension, all Democrats). Think about what an outrageous shitlord Chris Christie is. If you look at his polling numbers you might think 'oh, okay, it's because he's such a shitlord'. But it's not. Fucking NJ's budget, cancelling the Hudson tunnel, screaming at and bullying teachers, none of it matters. His numbers are in the tank because he hugged Obama after Hurricane Sandy destroyed his state.

You can't think in terms of pragmatic governance or compromise, you have to imagine you are dealing with people who would be angry at their congress person for helping Obama rescue a drowning child. That's the kind hatred you're dealing with. It goes way, way beyond the hatred Democrats had for Bush.

 

[dank69]

As much as we make fun of the crazy hardliners in the Republican party, they are enabled by a vicious hatred for Obama (and by extension, all Democrats). Think about what an outrageous shitlord Chris Christie is. If you look at his polling numbers you might think 'oh, okay, it's because he's such a shitlord'. But it's not. Fucking NJ's budget, cancelling the Hudson tunnel, screaming at and bullying teachers, none of it matters. His numbers are in the tank because he hugged Obama after Hurricane Sandy destroyed his state.

You can't think in terms of pragmatic governance or compromise, you have to imagine you are dealing with people who would be angry at their congress person for helping Obama rescue a drowning child. That's the kind hatred you're dealing with. It goes way, way beyond the hatred Democrats had for Bush.

It built up over Bush's term. All these Republicans got so pissed off having their boy made fun of day in and day out. When Obama got elected they were ready to give it back good as evidenced by their constant reaching for any reason to criticize him for every single thing he does. Then every time they get called out for reaching, they just get more and more pissed.

 

[Charmonium]

His numbers are in the tank because he hugged Obama after Hurricane Sandy destroyed his state.

No doubt. Electing Obama to two terms I think was one of the most amazing things we've ever done as a country but the people who hate him are nothing short of rabid.

 

[bshole]

Sounding like Ryan will take it and possibly shelve his Presidential ambitions.
Ryan is a policy guy he may be the best candidate for this time.

It seems like a toxic position. I have never seen such open in-fighting within the Republican party. It appears almost to be splitting into two separate parties.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Issa wants to throw his hat in the ring. God help us all.

He might actually be the best suited for it.

Looks like Ryan is still a "no."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-not-running-speaker

 

[blankslate]

Looks like Ryan is still a "no."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...unning-speaker

yeah I just heard on the radio stream that he's being pushed by members of the House to run for the position.


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[trenchfoot]

The extremists, opportunists and small in numbers as they always are, always see conflict and widespread confusion as golden opportunities to seize control, always masking their motives in ways that make them appear to be those being most able to unify and strengthen the tribe they belong to.

This internal war going on with the Repubs is having their extremists moving in and exploiting it for everything it's worth. It's "their time" to rise and show the nation their vision, their purpose in life.

For what little info I can glean from the media, it sure looks like a coup is in the works.

Hang on to yer lugnuts America, we may possibly see what an extremist controlled political party is capable of, not that we've already had recent momentary examples of it.