Attention Bernie Bros

[Vic]

Trump has been only a president for one-term. While Biden has been a president for two-terms, which lead to the first Trump term. At great dismay to the single politcal tribe that was owning the elections since forever.

Biden has never been President, and the outrage of white nationalists over a black man being President for two terms is what led to a Trump presidency. Meanwhile, the "single political tribe" that has been owning elections in the US since 1994 has been the Republicans. FFS..

 

[dank69]

Trump has been only a president for one-term. While Biden has been a president for two-terms, which lead to the first Trump term. At great dismay to the single politcal tribe that was owning the elections since forever.

Yeah sure, BIDEN led to Trump. Okay.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Biden has never been President, and the outrage of white nationalists over a black man being President for two terms is what led to a Trump presidency. Meanwhile, the "single political tribe" that has been owning elections in the US since 1994 has been the Republicans. FFS..

Biden has never been president?! Vice-presidency is still a presidency, thus still a president.

Joe Biden being the VP guaranteed the "single politcal tribe" acceptance.

Yeah sure, BIDEN led to Trump. Okay.

The disgust of democrats are mostly from the Obama/Biden two term run. A third term but with Biden in the driving wheel will be even more disastrous to them.

Obama had the hope of change, then the hope of some change. Then, Trump came swooping in with "I'm going to take this government and shake it up!"

 

[JEDIYoda]

Biden has never been president?! Vice-presidency is still a presidency, thus still a president.

Joe Biden being the VP guaranteed the "single politcal tribe" acceptance.The disgust of democrats are mostly from the Obama/Biden two term run. A third term but with Biden in the driving wheel will be even more disastrous to them.

Obama had the hope of change, then the hope of some change. Then, Trump came swooping in with "I'm going to take this government and shake it up!"

I want some of what you are smoking....

 

[Vic]

Biden has never been president?! Vice-presidency is still a presidency, thus still a president.

Joe Biden being the VP guaranteed the "single politcal tribe" acceptance.

The vice-presidency is obviously not a presidency, literally by definition.

Meanwhile, BEFORE the 2016 elections, the Republican party already controlled both houses of Congress with their largest majorities since the 1920s, held 33 state governorships (also the most since the 1920s), and controlled the legislatures in 33 states. With these facts in mind, to claim that the Democrats controlled the govt at that time is simply dishonest.

 

[NostaSeronx]

The vice-presidency is obviously not a presidency, literally by definition.

A vice-admiral isn't an admiral, nor is a rear admiral an admiral! Literally by definition, only admirals can be admirals.

The vice-presidency primarily deals with fronting the domestic policy. The single political tribe is present in both republicans and democrats parties.

 

[Vic]

Obama had the hope of change, then the hope of some change. Then, Trump came swooping in with "I'm going to take this government and shake it up!"

And then what happened is he took the govt and perpetuated the status quo, accomplishing little more than tax reform to benefit corporations and the ultra-rich, because the Republicans already controlled every aspect of govt in the US, except for the executive branch and a minority of statehouses/governorships.

 

[Vic]

A vice-admiral isn't an admiral, nor is a rear admiral an admiral! Literally by definition, only admirals can be admirals.

The vice-presidency primarily deals with fronting the domestic policy. The single political tribe is present in both republicans and democrats parties.

Oooh, I bet now we're gonna change the narrative and push the pretend rhetoric that Trump isn't a lifelong member of the Republican establishment. Then I'm sure we'll fall back again on the old 'Trump is anti-Wall Street' bullshit while pretending that Goldman Sachs, Carl Icahn, and the Ricketts family (Ameritrade) aren't among his biggest backers. I suppose after that we'll use the ol' 'Trump is a self-made man' garbage while ignoring the fact that he was literally born one of the wealthiest people on earth? And that almost all of his wealth is derived from real estate holdings he inherited and still holds through the Trump Org, one of America's largest private landlords?

That bullshit tricked a lot of people in 2016, I know, but now people know it for what it is.

 

[NostaSeronx]

And then what happened is he took the govt and perpetuated the status quo, accomplishing little more than tax reform to benefit corporations and the ultra-rich, because the Republicans already controlled every aspect of govt in the US, except for the executive branch and a minority of statehouses/governorships.

There is no other candidates but Biden and Trump. So, the most-left leaning is Trump vs the far-right Biden. A return to status quo/normalcy means no need or want for AOC, KP, etc. America on all fronts needs to be pushed left, only Trump is capable of doing that. America will return to the right with Biden.

Oooh, I bet now we're gonna change the narrative and push the pretend rhetoric that Trump isn't a lifelong member of the Republican establishment.

Democrat till 1987, Democrat between 2001-2009.
Republican for 1987-1999, 2009-2011, 2012-now.

Still has been a democrat longer.

 

[Vic]

Yeah, the Trump who openly pushes right-wing extremism and panders to right-wing extremists, including white nationalists who regard him as their hero, is more leftist than the white guy who served as vice-president to a black man.

Imagine actually believing that..

 

[NostaSeronx]

Yeah, the Trump who openly pushes right-wing extremism and panders to right-wing extremists, including white nationalists who regard him as their hero, is more leftist than the white guy who served as vice-president to a black man.

Imagine actually believing that..

Presidency isn't for on the job training, I rather run with or against McCain.

I know the roaches, is an equivalent dog whistle to, rat and rodent infested mess.

Remember, forum users only Biden and Trump are on the ballot.

 

[Blackjack200]

Yeah, the Trump who openly pushes right-wing extremism and panders to right-wing extremists, including white nationalists who regard him as their hero, is more leftist than the white guy who served as vice-president to a black man.

Imagine actually believing that..

Also behind the crime bill and besties with Strom Thurmond. But Clarence Thomas is black and owes his career to Biden, so there's that.

 

[Jhhnn]

Also behind the crime bill and besties with Strom Thurmond. But Clarence Thomas is black and owes his career to Biden, so there's that.

Funny how things change over 30 years, huh? Meanwhile, Trump is destroying America. And you're helping him do it.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Funny how things change over 30 years, huh? Meanwhile, Trump is destroying America. And you're helping him do it.

Yeah, Trump is destroying America. 63 million people and the electoral college voted for him. We neckbearded armchair warriors aren't doing nothin'!

62+ million + EC thought the republican choice was okay -> 65+ million thought the democratic choice was okay(I was here btw) -> 108+ million thought neither choice was okay.

Arguing on English forums about American politics are surely going to get people to vote for the person you want to win.

 

[Blackjack200]

Funny how things change over 30 years, huh? Meanwhile, Trump is destroying America. And you're helping him do it.

Ahh, fuck, sorry.

Honestly didn't realize he was destroying America since homelessness, poverty, exploiting migrants, environmental destruction, depression, opioid abuse, declining life expectancy, and state surveillance all seem very American to me. Thought he was just continuing the same project of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeah, Trump is destroying America. 63 million people and the electoral college voted for him. We neckbearded armchair warriors aren't doing nothin'!

62+ million + EC thought the republican choice was okay -> 65+ million thought the democratic choice was okay(I was here btw) -> 108+ million thought neither choice was okay.

Arguing on English forums about American politics are surely going to get people to vote for the person you want to win.

English forum? Wut?

 

[Jhhnn]

Ahh, fuck, sorry.

Honestly didn't realize he was destroying America since homelessness, poverty, exploiting migrants, environmental destruction, depression, opioid abuse, declining life expectancy, and state surveillance all seem very American to me. Thought he was just continuing the same project of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama.

He's def fulfilling the Repub agenda, that's for sure.

 

[NostaSeronx]

English forum? Wut?

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Voting with Biden or Trump is not voting for the world. Bernie Sanders is a global centrist, which offered the better solution on solving America's long-term problem. Voting for candidates that are on the right globally isn't going to solve issues. They will always delay it for the next guy to fix.

Trump however is the more sensible option as more leftist candidates are getting elected and more leftist policies are being pushed in congress. Which it is expected that Biden getting elected will destroy that till the next Trump-esque candidate comes by. For sure proving, the congress controlled by moderates/conservatives is flawed and destructive to the bottom 50%.

 

[Vic]

Scroll down or click about us then contact us. Drink yorkshire tea while doing it.... Future plc. Reg No 3757874 England. Quay House, The Ambury, Bath BA1 1UA // go down further the ownership chain => Beauford Court 30 Monmouth Street Bath, BA1 2BW United Kingdom.

That's Future plc, which purchased Anandtech.com in 2018. Anandtech itself is an American website and forums, founded by American Anand Lal Shimpi in 1997. Most of the members here are American or Canadian, and ATPN has always been focused on American politics.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Most of the members here are American or Canadian, and ATPN has always been focused on American politics.

...and someday United States will have a NHS/SPS and eventually big enough support of UBS/UBI as the ole English and Canucks.

Maybe, it will help more if all these were done at an international level for extra anti-capitalist greed maneuvering. International-level supported universal basic services/income/healthcare is definitely going to overpower any national-level version of services.

 

[dank69]

Ahh, fuck, sorry.

Honestly didn't realize he was destroying America since homelessness, poverty, exploiting migrants, environmental destruction, depression, opioid abuse, declining life expectancy, and state surveillance all seem very American to me. Thought he was just continuing the same project of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama.

Hey sunshine, Clinton and Obama couldn't get anything done without Republican buy-in except for a narrow window between 2009 and 2009. But you keep blaming Democrats for not getting shit done when they haven't had the power to do so.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Hey sunshine, Clinton and Obama couldn't get anything done without Republican buy-in except for a narrow window between 2009 and 2009. But you keep blaming Democrats for not getting shit done when they haven't had the power to do so.

The next president will obviously be the McConnell whisperer.

"Although there’s no evidence of a close personal friendship, McConnell and Biden were both known as proud guardians of the Senate’s powers and precedents during the 24 years they spent together in the chamber. All but four of those two dozen years were at times of divided government. The two were never really rivals because they weren’t on any of the same committees, and they honed their skills as legislative playmakers in mostly different policy areas. (They do both have international affairs expertise, though, Biden having chaired the Foreign Relations Committee and McConnell having run the Appropriations subcommittee that provides foreign aid.)

The poker-faced McConnell has been more openly positive about Biden than perhaps anyone else in the Obama administration. The senator invited the vice president to give a speech about the virtues of bipartisan legislating at the McConnell Center at the University of Louisville. The GOP leader’s staff famously leaked a moment in the fiscal cliff drama when he phoned Biden in the West Wing and asked, “Does anyone down there know how to make a deal?” When their bargaining started, McConnell cooed before the cameras that he’d finally found a worthy “dance partner.”

For his part, the vice president called to congratulate McConnell on his lopsided re-election soon after the polls closed in Kentucky on Nov. 4, while the president didn’t connect with the senator until the next day. And then there was Biden’s behavior when the congressional leadership went to the White House for lunch a few days later. When Republicans launched into a lengthy argument against Obama acting unilaterally on immigration, and the president made clear his patience was running thin, Biden sought to smooth over the friction by asking how much time the GOP needed to pass its own bill — and reportedly was angrily cut off by the president.

That anecdote from The Associated Press offers as good a reminder as any about why Obama might decide against dispatching his vice president to try to become an activist 101st senator. Encouraging Biden to be Biden in situations he finds comfortable has proven to be a high-risk, not-routinely-high-reward proposition for congressional Democrats. Many of them grumble he gave away too much in those three big deals he cut with McConnell. They suspect his old-school ways have caused him to underestimate the confrontational spine of so many Hill Republicans." - from some website

 

[Blackjack200]

Hey sunshine, Clinton and Obama couldn't get anything done without Republican buy-in except for a narrow window between 2009 and 2009. But you keep blaming Democrats for not getting shit done when they haven't had the power to do so.

So you're saying that the Democratic party has not effectively opposed the Republicans in 40 years?

 

[Jhhnn]

...and someday United States will have a NHS/SPS and eventually big enough support of UBS/UBI as the ole English and Canucks.

Maybe, it will help more if all these were done at an international level for extra anti-capitalist greed maneuvering. International-level supported universal basic services/income/healthcare is definitely going to overpower any national-level version of services.

You apparently have no idea what Tory austerity has done for the UK.

 

[NostaSeronx]

You apparently have no idea what Tory austerity has done for the UK.

Well no duh. All currency-based societies operate on the fact costs go down. I pay a worker 10 currency units now, 5 years later from now I only need to pay that worker 5 currency units for the same service. Real capitalism works, this fake social capitalism doesn't. Debts and deficits will continue to rise if the cost of paying workers rise.