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sandorski

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Why doesn't that apply to Republicans? Also, the Democrats have held a grand total of a little over a year of power in the last 40-50 years, and you muppets are mad they didn't get anything done.

Republicans are clear where they stand and are totally in the pocket of the Oligarchs. Democrats say they are for the Worker, and at one time were, but are also in the pocket of the Oligarchs. That said, the Workers are still mostly within the Democratic Party, thus that is why the Democratic Party has to be where their efforts are applied.
 

eelw

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Biden was on Anderson Cooper’s Coronavirus town hall. But obviously he knew planning before as VP. But he still has consulting Dr and other experts keeping him updated on everything he needs to know. If somehow this crisis still an issue next January, he’s jumping in head first. But all his preparation, he’s going to kick the orange menace’s ass in the debates.
 

soundforbjt

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Republicans are clear where they stand and are totally in the pocket of the Oligarchs. Democrats say they are for the Worker, and at one time were, but are also in the pocket of the Oligarchs. That said, the Workers are still mostly within the Democratic Party, thus that is why the Democratic Party has to be where their efforts are applied.
So, they should just lie like the Republicans do (since Dems can't get anything done without a majority)? You can't/shouldn't promise what you can't deliver. Until the Dems have the majority and that means all branches, we'll never have the "paradise" most Americans would like. You should be happy, you're in Canada. Great except for the winters.
 

sandorski

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So, they should just lie like the Republicans do (since Dems can't get anything done without a majority)? You can't/shouldn't promise what you can't deliver. Until the Dems have the majority and that means all branches, we'll never have the "paradise" most Americans would like. You should be happy, you're in Canada. Great except for the winters.

You can't gain what you don't fight for. That's where the Dems fail and the Reps succeed, state what you Believe, no matter how distant it may be to accomplishment, then Work towards it. Ever since Reagan the Republicans have controlled the Agenda, even when Democrats controlled the White House, Senate, or House. They are willing to Fight for their Agenda, the Democrats meekly try to nibble at the edges for token "changes" that are quickly reversed and made more difficult to achieve next time. Like I have said numerous times over a handful of threads, The US keeps moving Right because the Democrats refuse to move Left... and Yes, it is the Democrats fault this is happening. It was the Democrats who abandoned the Left, replacing that with lip service to keep that faction of the Party on board. Problem is that the Left is re-surging and no longer willing to follow without actual Action.
 
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Jhhnn

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You can't gain what you don't fight for. That's where the Dems fail and the Reps succeed, state what you Believe, no matter how distant it may be to accomplishment, then Work towards it. Ever since Reagan the Republicans have controlled the Agenda, even when Democrats controlled the White House, Senate, or House. They are willing to Fight for their Agenda, the Democrats meekly try to nibble at the edges for token "changes" that are quickly reversed and made more difficult to achieve next time. Like I have said numerous times over a handful of threads, The US keeps moving Right because the Democrats refuse to move Left... and Yes, it is the Democrats fault this is happening. It was the Democrats who abandoned the Left, replacing that with lip service to keep that faction of the Party on board. Problem is that the Left is re-surging and no longer willing to follow without actual Action.

And what did that mentality yield in 2016? Trump's victory.
 

Jhhnn

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then perhaps the Dems should change their tact.

Or maybe Bernie supporters need to realize they got chumped by alt-right concern trolls & dishonest outside agent provocateurs like yourself in 2016. I mean, you're Canadian, right? Why don't you just preach derision & divisiveness to your own progressives?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Or maybe Bernie supporters need to realize they got chumped by alt-right concern trolls & dishonest outside agent provocateurs like yourself in 2016. I mean, you're Canadian, right? Why don't you just preach derision & divisiveness to your own progressives?

We already got much of the programs US Progressives want, so. However, being told to just Vote Dem without any of their issues addressed is playing them for Chumps....and what's dishonest about what I have said on these issues?
 

Blackjack200

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We already got much of the programs US Progressives want, so. However, being told to just Vote Dem without any of their issues addressed is playing them for Chumps....and what's dishonest about what I have said on these issues?

For all the whining about toxic Bernie bros there is 10x more bile coming from Biden stans than there ever was going the other way. The attacks on Briahna Joy Grey are absolutely insane, if she worked for Biden instead of Sanders the shit that gets said to her would be plastered all over CNN and MSNBC.
 

dank69

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We already got much of the programs US Progressives want, so. However, being told to just Vote Dem without any of their issues addressed is playing them for Chumps....and what's dishonest about what I have said on these issues?
I'm not telling people to vote Dem. I'm telling people to fucking punish the Republicans for actively working to make all our lives worse. The only way to do that is to vote Dem. I wish that were not the case, but it is. So people have to choose between punishing the Republicans or continue eating their shit.
 

dank69

Lifer
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For all the whining about toxic Bernie bros there is 10x more bile coming from Biden stans than there ever was going the other way. The attacks on Briahna Joy Grey are absolutely insane, if she worked for Biden instead of Sanders the shit that gets said to her would be plastered all over CNN and MSNBC.
You need to take a twitter break. That is not real life. You might as well be crying about how mean McFarlane is to Meg.
 

NostaSeronx

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If you want to win, you will vote for Trump. Trump is the underdog. Two term president vs one term president, got to support the one-term president. So that senile two-termer doesn't get a third-term and ruin America again.

Wall Street will save you democrats, it will trust us!!!

Want basic income? Just needs DJT's name on it.
Want healthcare for all? Just back DJT and tell him it will give him cheaper drugs.
 

Moonbeam

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If you want to win, you will vote for Trump. Trump is the underdog. Two term president vs one term president, got to support the one-term president. So that senile two-termer doesn't get a third-term and ruin America again.

Wall Street will save you democrats, it will trust us!!!

Want basic income? Just needs DJT's name on it.
Want healthcare for all? Just back DJT and tell him it will give him cheaper drugs.
I ruble for your thoughts..........
 

NostaSeronx

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I ruble for your thoughts..........
I feel bad for these democrats. Analytics point to DJT going left in 2nd term and JRB going far right in 3rd term.

Worst case scenario for everyone. Vote for the other person, if you want M4A/UBI/etc.

JRB: *snort/light neoliberal chuckle* never going to work... hOW aRE wE GoiNG tO pAY fOr iT?!
DJT: M4A/UBI, who gives a shit about 20 more trillion.

I for sure am not going through another four years of a JRB presidency. It lead to the politically-nihilistic DJT, so yeah, another four years of DJT. Let it burn *crazed laughter* let it burn~~~~
 
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Moonbeam

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I feel bad for these democrats. Analytics point to DJT going left in 2nd term and JRB going far right in 3rd term.

Worst case scenario for everyone. Vote for the other person, if you want M4A/UBI/etc.

JRB: *snort/light neoliberal chuckle* never going to work... hOW aRE wE GoiNG tO pAY fOr iT?!
DJT: M4A/UBI, who gives a shit about 20 more trillion.
For Christ sakes, just use Cyrillic please.
 

hal2kilo

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I feel bad for these democrats. Analytics point to DJT going left in 2nd term and JRB going far right in 3rd term.

Worst case scenario for everyone. Vote for the other person, if you want M4A/UBI/etc.

JRB: *snort/light neoliberal chuckle* never going to work... hOW aRE wE GoiNG tO pAY fOr iT?!
DJT: M4A/UBI, who gives a shit about 20 more trillion.

I for sure am not going through another four years of a JRB presidency.
I recommend you don't do any more drugs.
 
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Jhhnn

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We already got much of the programs US Progressives want, so. However, being told to just Vote Dem without any of their issues addressed is playing them for Chumps....and what's dishonest about what I have said on these issues?
It's dishonest to paint Dems as the Enemy, which is your constant refrain. It's a different flavor of bothsiderism & a total buzz kill.
 

Vic

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I feel bad for these democrats. Analytics point to DJT going left in 2nd term and JRB going far right in 3rd term.

Worst case scenario for everyone. Vote for the other person, if you want M4A/UBI/etc.

JRB: *snort/light neoliberal chuckle* never going to work... hOW aRE wE GoiNG tO pAY fOr iT?!
DJT: M4A/UBI, who gives a shit about 20 more trillion.

I for sure am not going through another four years of a JRB presidency. It lead to the politically-nihilistic DJT, so yeah, another four years of DJT. Let it burn *crazed laughter* let it burn~~~~

No one voted for a right wing extremist like Trump because they believed the Democrats had gone too far to the right. Keep up the emotion though.
 

NostaSeronx

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No one voted for a right wing extremist like Trump because they believed the Democrats had gone too far to the right. Keep up the emotion though.
Actually, they voted for leftist Trump because they believe the democrats are the far right.

If you don't want an authoritarian leadership, you don't vote for the same people over and over. Trump wasn't supported by Republicans, however they were cowed like Democrats. Aww shucks, he won the primary, time to dogpile on him!