Attention Bernie Bros

[hal2kilo]

Actually, they voted for leftist Trump because they believe the democrats are the far right.

If you don't want an authoritarian leadership, you don't vote for the same people over and over. Trump wasn't supported by Republicans, however they cowed like Democrats. Aww shucks, he won the primary, time to dogpile on him!

I get it, you got your polysci degree at Trump U.

 

[Vic]

If you want to win, you will vote for Trump. Trump is the underdog. Two term president vs one term president, got to support the one-term president. So that senile two-termer doesn't get a third-term and ruin America again.

Wall Street will save you democrats, it will trust us!!!

Want basic income? Just needs DJT's name on it.
Want healthcare for all? Just back DJT and tell him it will give him cheaper drugs.

If any of this were true, then why is everything does for Wall Street? Just look at the latest Republican bailout -- trillions of taxpayer money, almost all for Wall Street with peanuts to the rest of us
And if Trump wanted UBI or M4A, why is he always among the most vocal against those?

It might be fun for you to troll the opposite of observable reality, but those of us who believe what we see (rather than the other way around) will regard you appropriately.

 

[Blackjack200]

If any of this were true, then why is everything does for Wall Street? Just look at the latest Republican bailout -- trillions of taxpayer money, almost all for Wall Street with peanuts to the rest of us
And if Trump wanted UBI or M4A, why is he always among the most vocal against those?

It might be fun for you to troll the opposite of observable reality, but those of us who believe what we see (rather than the other way around) will regard you appropriately.

You mean the bailout that passed both houses of congress with flying colors? That bailout?

 

[NostaSeronx]

I get it, you got your polysci degree at Trump U.

Nope, not going to any higher education for a useless degree. Can get all the books from MIT/Har/Ivy/whatever for free on the web w/ free vod lectures these days.

 

[Vic]

Actually, they voted for leftist Trump because they believe the democrats are the far right.

If you don't want an authoritarian leadership, you don't vote for the same people over and over. Trump wasn't supported by Republicans, however they were cowed like Democrats. Aww shucks, he won the primary, time to dogpile on him!

Which is why every MAGA in America wants Trump to have overarching authoritarian powers and for the Trump family to rule America in dynastic perpetuity, right?

It seems quite obvious that you don't know what words like left-wing and right-wing mean. But I'll repeat: it might be fun for you to troll the opposite of observable reality, but those of us who believe what we see (rather than the other way around) will regard you appropriately.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Which is why every MAGA in America wants Trump to have overarching authoritarian powers and for the Trump family to rule America in dynastic perpetuity, right?

I don't see the queen saying fuck the prime minister I am in control again. Lets re-acquire lands of Hanover for british control!!!

The only real authoritarian governments are labeled "democratic." You can't spell a democratic authoritarian regime without democrat!

 

[Vic]

You mean the bailout that passed both houses of congress with flying colors? That bailout?

Which Trump demanded and has removed any Congressional oversight from. Yes, that one. You can criticize all you want that Democrats aren't sufficiently anti-Wall Street, but it is incredibly dishonest to argue that Trump is anti-Wall Street, which is what that poster was doing, when he is observably among the most pro-Wall Street Presidents in history.

 

[Vic]

I don't see the queen saying fuck the prime minister I am in control again. Lets re-acquire lands of Hanover for british control!!!

The only real authoritarian governments are labeled "democratic."

If the Queen had the power and inclination to do so, she absolutely would. That is how monarchy works, and why modern govts have abandoned the failed idea that someone should rule by 'divine right of birth' or other silly illiberal notions that kept the People in poverty and at war for centuries.

Not all nations that call themselves democracies are actually democratic, and democracy can be abused if not checked by the rule of law, but dictatorship and absolute monarchy are always abusive.

Edit: thanks for exposing your true partisan motive with your ninja edit.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Edit: thanks for exposing your true partisan motive with your ninja edit.

Thanks to me, for personally preventing a democratic authoritarian regime in this wonderful republic, you mean.

Trump wins => 2nd term would have him relying on leftists to keep him in office.
Biden wins => 3rd term ends on the note of Alex Jones running for president and winning general.

 

[Moonbeam]

Don't know Russian, friend.I don't support remedies, only cures.

I am a pretty simple person, at least in my opinion, one not easily given to being impressed by displays of what look to me to be pseudo intellectual prowess. If you have something to say to me, then, please drop the pretense and say it simply. I won't judge you harshly if something you say suddenly appears to make sense. I'm not one to hold it against people who have the courage to flat out express themselves in ways that imply they are crazy so long as they are up front about it.

This is to say that I found your response not to be very human or genuine, designed more to obfuscate rather than reveal.

 

[Vic]

Thanks to me, for personally preventing a democratic authoritarian regime in this wonderful republic, you mean.

Trump wins => 2nd term would have him relying on leftists to keep him in office.
Biden wins => 3rd term ends on the note of Alex Jones running for president and winning general.

Yes, you "personally." It really isn't surprising that delusional ideas are coming from someone with delusions of grandeur.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Yes, you "personally." It really isn't surprising that delusional ideas are coming from someone with delusions of grandeur.

Yes, you personally can't read sarcasm. You can subscribe, follow, hit that notification bell, like, for more UltraNatSeronx podcasts on youtube. Don't forget to install honey.

Remember regardless of anything blame Bernie Sanders. God damn Bernie for doing this!!! Especially, his heathen commie authortiarian bernie bros!!!

 

[Thump553]

Which Trump demanded and has removed any Congressional oversight from. Yes, that one. You can criticize all you want that Democrats aren't sufficiently anti-Wall Street, but it is incredibly dishonest to argue that Trump is anti-Wall Street, which is what that poster was doing, when he is observably among the most pro-Wall Street Presidents in history.

The law has specific oversight provisions written into it. Trump's so-called removal of that oversight was by a signing statement, which is supposed to give the executive branch's interpretation of unclear provisions of the act being signed into law. That is somewhat influential with the courts when they interpret the law.

Since the law was crystal clear on the oversight here, Trump will lose on this issue when it gets to court.

 

[Vic]

Progressives should beware messaging that the only way to achieve their progressive goals is through the auspices of a "benevolent" monarch like Trump. Right-wingers want you to believe that because re-establishing the monarchy and aristocracy has always been their goal.

 

[Vic]

Yes, you personally can't read sarcasm. You can subscribe, follow, hit that notification bell, like, for more UltraNatSeronx podcasts on youtube. Don't forget to install honey.

Remember regardless of anything blame Bernie Sanders. God damn Bernie for doing this!!! Especially, his heathen commie authortiarian bernie bros!!!

Trolls gotta troll..

I haven't blamed Bernie for anything BTW. I even said months ago that I would vote for him if he won the primaries and the nomination. Because, yaknow that democracy thing you hate so much.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'm not telling people to vote Dem. I'm telling people to fucking punish the Republicans for actively working to make all our lives worse. The only way to do that is to vote Dem. I wish that were not the case, but it is. So people have to choose between punishing the Republicans or continue eating their shit.

I agree! If I might add, you are not punishing the Republicans if you vote for a 3rd party candidate! As I have heard many people on these forums state -- They have said -- fortunately I don`t have to vote for either candidate....lol

 

[NostaSeronx]

Progressives should beware messaging that the only way to achieve their progressive goals is through the auspices of a "benevolent" monarch like Trump. Right-wingers want you to believe that because re-establishing the monarchy and aristocracy has always been their goal.

Leftists should beware messaging that the only way to achieve their leftists goals is through the auspices of a "benevolent" oligarch like Biden. Moderates want you to believe that because re-establishing the normalcy and status quo has always been their goal.

Normalcy/StatusQuo dogwhistle =>
The poor get poorer and die in living hell.
The rich get richer and live like kings/queens.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Actually, they voted for leftist Trump because they believe the democrats are the far right.

If you don't want an authoritarian leadership, you don't vote for the same people over and over. Trump wasn't supported by Republicans, however they were cowed like Democrats. Aww shucks, he won the primary, time to dogpile on him!

Where do you get your supply of whatever you are smoking??

 

[Vic]

The law has specific oversight provisions written into it. Trump's so-called removal of that oversight was by a signing statement, which is supposed to give the executive branch's interpretation of unclear provisions of the act being signed into law. That is somewhat influential with the courts when they interpret the law.

Since the law was crystal clear on the oversight here, Trump will lose on this issue when it gets to court.

In the word of Richard Nixon's Head-in-a-jar from Futurama, "I know a place where the Constitution doesn't mean squat!"

 

[NostaSeronx]

Where do you get your supply of whatever you are smoking??

SarcasmCorpwithawholelotoftruth Supplydepot

 

[Vic]

Leftists should beware messaging that the only way to achieve their leftists goals is through the auspices of a "benevolent" oligarch like Biden. Moderates want you to believe that because re-establishing the normalcy and status quo has always been their goal.

The poor get poorer or die in living hell.
The rich get richer and live like kings/queens.

When America has been skewed so far to the right that we are literally on the verge of monarchy and aristocracy, it would seem obvious that the only way back to the left is through the middle.

But of course the poster arguing in favor of monarchy and aristocracy, and the increasingly widening gap between rich and poor that has been the hallmark of Trump's presidency, wants progressives to believe otherwise.

 

[NostaSeronx]

But of course the poster arguing in favor of monarchy and aristocracy, and the increasingly widening gap between rich and poor that has been the hallmark of Trump's presidency, wants progressives to believe otherwise.

Normalcy and Status Quo isn't about changing.

Until the US actually votes for the left it will fall into moderacy;


Voting for the same tribe of political insiders isn't going to change trajectories.

I fully expect another 100+ million will not vote because democrats didn't give a left-enough candidate.

 

[Vic]

That argument might have worked in 2016, but in 2020, Trump and his cronies are the political insiders and elites. Like.. obviously.

 

[NostaSeronx]

That argument might have worked in 2016, but in 2020, Trump and his cronies are the political insiders and elites. Like.. obviously.

Trump has been only a president for one-term. While Biden has been a president for two-terms, which lead to the first Trump term. At great dismay to the single politcal tribe that was owning the elections since forever.

 

[Vic]

Imagine actually believing that the same right-wingers who instigate riots with leftists so they can make fake videos of "violent leftists," who argue that McCarthy was right to suppress and punish leftist speech in America in the 1950s, and who sell t-shirts celebrating Pinochet's murderous atrocities against leftists in Chile, will welcome leftists into their fold and give them a seat at the right-wing table. I mean, just imagine.