A Tale of two Disasters -- and two Responses

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

but why do you feel that all muslims need to be grouped in teh same category?

The same reason that the OP thinks that people like McVeigh are Christians, etc.

yeah i was thinking the same thing...couldnt you then just applly sterotypes to everyone and get it over with? no more arguing then rihght

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

but why do you feel that all muslims need to be grouped in teh same category?

Why?
Spain.
France.
9/11.
USS Cole.
Night clubs.

The list goes on. Islam is a dangerous religion with dangerous people that teach dangerous ideas. Is each and every Muslim a dangerous person? No. But as a group? Yes. Mosques inside of America assisting the 9/11 hijackers. Mosques in Iraq sheltering the enemy, then raising hell when the mosque was raided. Leaders in Britain stating the 9/11 hijackers were heros. Its a dangerous religion the world over. Simple as that.
And I've seen very little to make me feel otherwise. Maybe I've just missed the newscasts. maybe I didnt see the articles. I will frelly admit that.
But, from what I have seen, theres damned few Muslims that truly speak out against the crimes committed by Islamic terrorists.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

but why do you feel that all muslims need to be grouped in teh same category?

Why?
Spain.
France.
9/11.
USS Cole.
Night clubs.

The list goes on. Islam is a dangerous religion with dangerous people that teach dangerous ideas. Is each and every Muslim a dangerous person? No. But as a group? Yes. Mosques inside of America assisting the 9/11 hijackers. Mosques in Iraq sheltering the enemy, then raising hell when the mosque was raided. Leaders in Britain stating the 9/11 hijackers were heros. Its a dangerous religion the world over. Simple as that.
And I've seen very little to make me feel otherwise. Maybe I've just missed the newscasts. maybe I didnt see the articles. I will frelly admit that.
But, from what I have seen, theres damned few Muslims that truly speak out against the crimes committed by Islamic terrorists.

yes you keep pointing out that perhaps its your ignorane that is leading to your bigot nature and that is the only correct point you have made.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

1) You don't see those leaders lashing out against the extremist terrorists because you don't pay enough attention -and what attention you do pay, you pay it to American media that has an agenda.

2) We never went to Iraq because of it's "tactical" anything. :roll:

Well, you've certainly done a WONDERFUL job of refuting my post. Amazing. once again I repeat...
I see a lack of Muslim leaders speaking out against osama.

As for Iraq, you obviously havent looked at the situation in a tactical way. Thats ok, keeping that post count rising probably takes up a good deal of your time and you havent had time to look for the entire picture.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, my friend.

There have been threads on this very forum talking about the Islamic teachers (Shaek or however you spell it) visiting the prisoners at Abu.

It doesn't matter what strategic position the US can hold by occupying Iraq. That's not why we are there. That's not why we are there. That's not why we haven't left yet. You're full of poop.

Well, 1 person visiting prisons. Hoo-ra.

Yes, it does matter what strategic position we hold. I'm surpised you fail to see that.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

1) You don't see those leaders lashing out against the extremist terrorists because you don't pay enough attention -and what attention you do pay, you pay it to American media that has an agenda.

2) We never went to Iraq because of it's "tactical" anything. :roll:

Well, you've certainly done a WONDERFUL job of refuting my post. Amazing. once again I repeat...
I see a lack of Muslim leaders speaking out against osama.

As for Iraq, you obviously havent looked at the situation in a tactical way. Thats ok, keeping that post count rising probably takes up a good deal of your time and you havent had time to look for the entire picture.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, my friend.

There have been threads on this very forum talking about the Islamic teachers (Shaek or however you spell it) visiting the prisoners at Abu.

It doesn't matter what strategic position the US can hold by occupying Iraq. That's not why we are there. That's not why we are there. That's not why we haven't left yet. You're full of poop.

Well, 1 person visiting prisons. Hoo-ra.

Yes, it does matter what strategic position we hold. I'm surpised you fail to see that.

i belive he mean sheik, which isnt a name but a title :laugh:

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

but why do you feel that all muslims need to be grouped in teh same category?

Why?
Spain.
France.
9/11.
USS Cole.
Night clubs.

The list goes on. Islam is a dangerous religion with dangerous people that teach dangerous ideas. Is each and every Muslim a dangerous person? No. But as a group? Yes. Mosques inside of America assisting the 9/11 hijackers. Mosques in Iraq sheltering the enemy, then raising hell when the mosque was raided. Leaders in Britain stating the 9/11 hijackers were heros. Its a dangerous religion the world over. Simple as that.
And I've seen very little to make me feel otherwise. Maybe I've just missed the newscasts. maybe I didnt see the articles. I will frelly admit that.
But, from what I have seen, theres damned few Muslims that truly speak out against the crimes committed by Islamic terrorists.

yes you keep pointing out that perhaps its your ignorane that is leading to your bigot nature and that is the only correct point you have made.

Multiple people have told me how wrong I am in what i say....But none have posted proof.

You want me to eat crow? Theres your chance to make it happen. Its an open door, anyone can walk through it. Make me lick the bottom of my shoe clean and prove to me the majority of Islamic leaders and members do not support the terrorist movement.

 

You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Well, 1 person visiting prisons. Hoo-ra.

Yes, it does matter what strategic position we hold. I'm surpised you fail to see that.

It wasn't 1 person, it was LOADS of them counselling the prisoners about what the difference is between Islam and what the prisoners *thought* was Islam.

I'm not stupid about strategy. It's painfully obvious. However, since that DOESN'T MATTER, I'm going to continue to call your bluff on that point. With that logic, we should be taking over the entire universe. :roll:

 

[0ptimist]

The problem is that you hear only what CNN/FOX have to say, that these words weren't projected in the Western media as much as Osama's were.

You should try google sometimes Google search for 'Muslim leaders spak against Osama Did you see any Muslim leaders that appreciated Osama? (How many are there, if any? And how many Muslims are in favor of them?)

PS:
Can we please try to help those who are dying in the open? At least we can stop arguing about it. (If you want to discuss, please PM me, after all your labels like "dumb", "lunatics" for the whole Islamic world, I'm still ready to talk in a freindly manner, with an open mind, to help clear your point of view about Muslims/Pakistanis/Arabs)

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Specop 007
First off, I admit I'm a bigot. Thats more then most will do.

Secondly, "They" (in terms of my previous post) are Muslims. And (In my opinion) they are the enemy. Everyone shoves this PC crap down my throat about how Muslims as a whole dont support the ideas of Osama and his kind, and yet I see very few Muslim leaders and countries actually speak out against what he does. VERY few. Its hard for me to believe Muslims as a group are the "Religion of Peace" when all of them sit back and dont voice any outrage in regards to the actions a few of them take. Call it guilt by association.

As for going to iraq, if you havent looked at it tactically you wouldnt understand why we're there.

but why do you feel that all muslims need to be grouped in teh same category?

Why?
Spain.
France.
9/11.
USS Cole.
Night clubs.

The list goes on. Islam is a dangerous religion with dangerous people that teach dangerous ideas. Is each and every Muslim a dangerous person? No. But as a group? Yes. Mosques inside of America assisting the 9/11 hijackers. Mosques in Iraq sheltering the enemy, then raising hell when the mosque was raided. Leaders in Britain stating the 9/11 hijackers were heros. Its a dangerous religion the world over. Simple as that.
And I've seen very little to make me feel otherwise. Maybe I've just missed the newscasts. maybe I didnt see the articles. I will frelly admit that.
But, from what I have seen, theres damned few Muslims that truly speak out against the crimes committed by Islamic terrorists.

yes you keep pointing out that perhaps its your ignorane that is leading to your bigot nature and that is the only correct point you have made.

Multiple people have told me how wrong I am in what i say....But none have posted proof.

You want me to eat crow? Theres your chance to make it happen. Its an open door, anyone can walk through it. Make me lick the bottom of my shoe clean and prove to me the majority of Islamic leaders and members do not support the terrorist movement.

i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

You're not trying to prove him wrong, you just want to slit his throat like you posted earlier. Yeah, that's not "strong feelings" to the point where nobody can "communicate a new idea to you thru the internet" or anything. :roll:

Man, you guys really suck!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

We give more in terms of dollar amounts, but all you can see is that, because we make more, we need to donate more for fear of some dimwit on the internet frowning on the US.

Congrats!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Well, 1 person visiting prisons. Hoo-ra.

Yes, it does matter what strategic position we hold. I'm surpised you fail to see that.

It wasn't 1 person, it was LOADS of them counselling the prisoners about what the difference is between Islam and what the prisoners *thought* was Islam.

I'm not stupid about strategy. It's painfully obvious. However, since that DOESN'T MATTER, I'm going to continue to call your bluff on that point. With that logic, we should be taking over the entire universe. :roll:

You may understand strategy, but you dont understand how it applies to the Middle East.
i suggest you review this and ask your self, if you wanted to assist the House of Saud during a power struggle, or strike Syria or Iran what would be the best location to hold in order to accomplish any and all of these goals.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

You're not trying to prove him wrong, you just want to slit his throat like you posted earlier. Yeah, that's not "strong feelings" to the point where nobody can "communicate a new idea to you thru the internet" or anything. :roll:

Man, you guys really suck!

ok, i wrote that post out of anger earlier and it was uncalled for...but why are you so intent on arguing my point? where did i say somethign wrong...he himself said that perhaps he is missing certain aspects of the news and thats why he feels the way he does.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: TallBill
holy crap nik, almost 50k posts

I will now use the new term "holycrapnik" with great regularity.

Holycrapnik, Nik. I'm reminded yet again why I don't want to get into an argument with you.

 

[0ptimist]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

but why do you feel that all muslims need to be grouped in teh same category?

The same reason that the OP thinks that people like McVeigh are Christians, etc.

You took it the wrong way, you see that McVeigh example was to prove the point that just like all Christians/Westerners/Americans are not like McVeigh, all Muslims/Pakistanis/Arabs are not like Osama. Now you understand?

PS:
Can we please try to help those who are dying in the open? At least we can stop arguing about it. (If you want to discuss, please PM me, after all your labels like "dumb", "lunatics" for the whole Islamic world, I'm still ready to talk in a freindly manner, with an open mind, to help clear your point of view about Muslims/Pakistanis/Arabs)

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

We give more in terms of dollar amounts, but all you can see is that, because we make more, we need to donate more for fear of some dimwit on the internet frowning on the US.

Congrats!

i'm not belittleing the US, i'm not saying we do not give a lot in dollar ammount, i'm just pointing out a fact...why are you jumping at me?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

You're not trying to prove him wrong, you just want to slit his throat like you posted earlier. Yeah, that's not "strong feelings" to the point where nobody can "communicate a new idea to you thru the internet" or anything. :roll:

Man, you guys really suck!

ok, i wrote that post out of anger earlier and it was uncalled for...but why are you so intent on arguing my point? where did i say somethign wrong...he himself said that perhaps he is missing certain aspects of the news and thats why he feels the way he does.

You're full of just as much poop as he is, that's why. He thinks that all Islamics are terrorists and you want to slit his throat because of it.

:roll:

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

So?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

We give more in terms of dollar amounts, but all you can see is that, because we make more, we need to donate more for fear of some dimwit on the internet frowning on the US.

Congrats!

i'm not belittleing the US, i'm not saying we do not give a lot in dollar ammount, i'm just pointing out a fact...why are you jumping at me?

Maybe I was wrong. Your comments were not derogatory then? "...but who's counting right?" wasn't some snide comment insinuating that the US needs to give more because we have a higher GDP? If it WASN'T a negative comment, why post it? Who cares?

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

You're not trying to prove him wrong, you just want to slit his throat like you posted earlier. Yeah, that's not "strong feelings" to the point where nobody can "communicate a new idea to you thru the internet" or anything. :roll:

Man, you guys really suck!

ok, i wrote that post out of anger earlier and it was uncalled for...but why are you so intent on arguing my point? where did i say somethign wrong...he himself said that perhaps he is missing certain aspects of the news and thats why he feels the way he does.

You're full of just as much poop as he is, that's why. He thinks that all Islamics are terrorists and you want to slit his throat because of it.

:roll:

jesus fvcking christ man...i already said that post was out of anger and was completly in bad taste...why are you on my nuts about that.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
jesus fvcking christ man...i already said that post was out of anger and was completly in bad taste...why are you on my nuts about that.

Because YOU'RE INSANE.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
jesus fvcking christ man...i already said that post was out of anger and was completly in bad taste...why are you on my nuts about that.

Because YOU'RE INSANE.

WOOOOHOOOO!!!!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

You're not trying to prove him wrong, you just want to slit his throat like you posted earlier. Yeah, that's not "strong feelings" to the point where nobody can "communicate a new idea to you thru the internet" or anything. :roll:

Man, you guys really suck!

ok, i wrote that post out of anger earlier and it was uncalled for...but why are you so intent on arguing my point? where did i say somethign wrong...he himself said that perhaps he is missing certain aspects of the news and thats why he feels the way he does.

You're full of just as much poop as he is, that's why. He thinks that all Islamics are terrorists and you want to slit his throat because of it.

:roll:

jesus fvcking christ man...i already said that post was out of anger and was completly in bad taste...why are you on my nuts about that.

And most impressive of all is neither one of you has done anything to refute my claim that the majority of Muslim leaders and members support Islamic terrorists.