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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

We give more in terms of dollar amounts, but all you can see is that, because we make more, we need to donate more for fear of some dimwit on the internet frowning on the US.

Congrats!

i'm not belittleing the US, i'm not saying we do not give a lot in dollar ammount, i'm just pointing out a fact...why are you jumping at me?

Maybe I was wrong. Your comments were not derogatory then? "...but who's counting right?" wasn't some snide comment insinuating that the US needs to give more because we have a higher GDP? If it WASN'T a negative comment, why post it? Who cares?

OK man, you win. Whatever you say...I'm an american but it irritates me when we think we are the epitome of charity when other country regularly out do us. hang me by my balls if you want tho/
 

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm not trying to prove you wrong...since you harbor such strong feelings, do you really think that someone can communicate a new idea to you thru the internet...i was merely stateing what you already said...that perhaps you just feel this way because you do not know enough.

You're not trying to prove him wrong, you just want to slit his throat like you posted earlier. Yeah, that's not "strong feelings" to the point where nobody can "communicate a new idea to you thru the internet" or anything. :roll:

Man, you guys really suck!

ok, i wrote that post out of anger earlier and it was uncalled for...but why are you so intent on arguing my point? where did i say somethign wrong...he himself said that perhaps he is missing certain aspects of the news and thats why he feels the way he does.

You're full of just as much poop as he is, that's why. He thinks that all Islamics are terrorists and you want to slit his throat because of it.

:roll:

jesus fvcking christ man...i already said that post was out of anger and was completly in bad taste...why are you on my nuts about that.

And most impressive of all is neither one of you has done anything to refute my claim that the majority of Muslim leaders and members support Islamic terrorists.

Support your claim that they do.
 

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

We give more in terms of dollar amounts, but all you can see is that, because we make more, we need to donate more for fear of some dimwit on the internet frowning on the US.

Congrats!

i'm not belittleing the US, i'm not saying we do not give a lot in dollar ammount, i'm just pointing out a fact...why are you jumping at me?

Maybe I was wrong. Your comments were not derogatory then? "...but who's counting right?" wasn't some snide comment insinuating that the US needs to give more because we have a higher GDP? If it WASN'T a negative comment, why post it? Who cares?

OK man, you win. Whatever you say...I'm an american but it irritates me when we think we are the epitome of charity when other country regularly out do us. hang me by my balls if you want tho/

Okay, listen up. You don't buy/sell/trade with percentages of GDP. This doesn't happen:

Seller: I'll sell you aid for 500,000 people for 7.186% of the GDP
Buyer: How about 6%?
Seller: 6.9%, final offer.
Buyer: Sold!

Things are bought/sold/traded with DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

It all happens on dollar amounts. When the US puts more money into aid than other countries do, how can we NOT be the donations leader? Like it matters anyway who donates the most or the least, as long as folks donate.
 

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Wow, here goes 2 loonies quoting each other 19 times again.

You know, you're not doing any good, TB. You're just thread crapping. Participate or respectfully STFU.

...and I'm not in the military so there's nothing you can do to me! NEENER NEENER!! :D
 

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007

And most impressive of all is neither one of you has done anything to refute my claim that the majority of Muslim leaders and members support Islamic terrorists.

Support your claim that they do.

;)

Originally posted by: Nik
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, my friend.

I simply couldnt have said it better then you. As I said earlier, guilt by association. I would think that given the amount of terrorist attacks committed by Islamic people, if the Islamic community was really and truly against it there would be a huge outcry against it. Why is there no huge outcry? Where is this large Islamic movement against the terrorists?
 
Apr 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: FallenHero
You are questioning the charity of the country that gives the MOST by FAR to worthy causes around the world?

thats incorrect...out of developed countries, america gives the lowest as a percentage of GDP...but who's counting right?

We give more in terms of dollar amounts, but all you can see is that, because we make more, we need to donate more for fear of some dimwit on the internet frowning on the US.

Congrats!

i'm not belittleing the US, i'm not saying we do not give a lot in dollar ammount, i'm just pointing out a fact...why are you jumping at me?

Maybe I was wrong. Your comments were not derogatory then? "...but who's counting right?" wasn't some snide comment insinuating that the US needs to give more because we have a higher GDP? If it WASN'T a negative comment, why post it? Who cares?

OK man, you win. Whatever you say...I'm an american but it irritates me when we think we are the epitome of charity when other country regularly out do us. hang me by my balls if you want tho/

Okay, listen up. You don't buy/sell/trade with percentages of GDP. This doesn't happen:

Seller: I'll sell you aid for 500,000 people for 7.186% of the GDP
Buyer: How about 6%?
Seller: 6.9%, final offer.
Buyer: Sold!

Things are bought/sold/traded with DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

It all happens on dollar amounts. When the US puts more money into aid than other countries do, how can we NOT be the donations leader? Like it matters anyway who donates the most or the least, as long as folks donate.

i agree with you there...and infact individual donations from citizens from the us are much larger than any other country. but i had read this study that we grossly overestimate how much aid we give by like 3 fold or something.
 

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
;)

Fail.

I simply couldnt have said it better then you. As I said earlier, guilt by association. I would think that given the amount of terrorist attacks committed by Islamic people, if the Islamic community was really and truly against it there would be a huge outcry against it. Why is there no huge outcry? Where is this large Islamic movement against the terrorists?

Ignored by bias American media. Try walking into a mosque and asking.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007

And most impressive of all is neither one of you has done anything to refute my claim that the majority of Muslim leaders and members support Islamic terrorists.

Support your claim that they do.

;)

Originally posted by: Nik
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, my friend.

I simply couldnt have said it better then you. As I said earlier, guilt by association. I would think that given the amount of terrorist attacks committed by Islamic people, if the Islamic community was really and truly against it there would be a huge outcry against it. Why is there no huge outcry? Where is this large Islamic movement against the terrorists?

Ignored by bias American media. Try walking into a mosque and asking.

Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.
 

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.
 
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

i dont understnad his argument anymore/
 

Specop 007

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

Once again your missing the point.

So, here we go (again).

Lets use America as an example. You can get 100,000 people to march to the White House lawn to support gun control. Out of a population of what, 500 million?

Now your telling me that a religion with a population of what, 2 billion? cant organize an effective Anti terrorism campaign?? Please. If the Islamic community as a whole truly did not beileve in the actions of the terrorists and was speaking out against it there would be no way we wouldnt hear about it, because 2 billion voices speaking out cannot be ignored. CANNOT BE IGNORED.

So I ask (once again)....Where is the huge outcry from Muslims against terrorism?
 

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

i dont understnad his argument anymore/

You're just as nuts.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

Once again your missing the point.

So, here we go (again).

Lets use America as an example. You can get 100,000 people to march to the White House lawn to support gun control. Out of a population of what, 500 million?

Now your telling me that a religion with a population of what, 2 billion? cant organize an effective Anti terrorism campaign?? Please. If the Islamic community as a whole truly did not beileve in the actions of the terrorists and was speaking out against it there would be no way we wouldnt hear about it, because 2 billion voices speaking out cannot be ignored. CANNOT BE IGNORED.

So I ask (once again)....Where is the huge outcry from Muslims against terrorism?

You're hopeless.
 
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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

Once again your missing the point.

So, here we go (again).

Lets use America as an example. You can get 100,000 people to march to the White House lawn to support gun control. Out of a population of what, 500 million?

Now your telling me that a religion with a population of what, 2 billion? cant organize an effective Anti terrorism campaign?? Please. If the Islamic community as a whole truly did not beileve in the actions of the terrorists and was speaking out against it there would be no way we wouldnt hear about it, because 2 billion voices speaking out cannot be ignored. CANNOT BE IGNORED.

So I ask (once again)....Where is the huge outcry from Muslims against terrorism?

you're right...there isnt overwhelming outcry against terrorism...but that doesnt mean that there isnt any and that progress isnt being made.
 
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

i dont understnad his argument anymore/

You're just as nuts.

:confused:
 
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Oh, so 1 mosque in 1 country is representative of the religion the world over?? You and I both know thats a load of smoke.

No, but the leader of the mosque should share the same basic principles of the religion that the rest of the mosques do.

You're just being stupid now.

Once again your missing the point.

So, here we go (again).

Lets use America as an example. You can get 100,000 people to march to the White House lawn to support gun control. Out of a population of what, 500 million?

Now your telling me that a religion with a population of what, 2 billion? cant organize an effective Anti terrorism campaign?? Please. If the Islamic community as a whole truly did not beileve in the actions of the terrorists and was speaking out against it there would be no way we wouldnt hear about it, because 2 billion voices speaking out cannot be ignored. CANNOT BE IGNORED.

So I ask (once again)....Where is the huge outcry from Muslims against terrorism?

You're hopeless.

thats a valid question...but then agian, if you deem it hopeless it must be so.