9/11 Loose Change Final Cut Released Online

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Vic
Why should they look at the steel? WTC7 fell because WTC1 fell on it. This has been conclusively established.

Forensics? As with any murder they spend thousands on forensics dissecting each particle in hopes of finding clues. Why should Sept 11th be any different? IMO the 9-11 investigation/information should have been conducted with scrutiny of each and every piece that fell. Cataloged the positions of evidence like an archaeologist. Not ONE piece should have been moved without such depth of investigation.

And here I thought Paul supporters were AGAINST the waste of taxpayers dollars!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: event8horizon

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: event8horizon
has anyone figured out why the nist study didnt have any steel from wtc 7 to look at??

The analysis focused on the WTC 1 and WTC 2. Although no steel was recovered from WTC 7, a 47-story building that also collapsed on September 11, properties for steel used in its construction were estimated based on literature and contemporaneous documents.

http://wtc.nist.gov/oct05NCSTAR1-3index.htm

What are you trying to claim? That the government had this grand plan to slam airplanes into WTC 1 and WTC 2 so they would collapse and cover up the demolition of WTC 7?

Here's NIST's response to the conspiracy theorists:

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

thats where im getting my info. from the nist website if u read my post. im not claiming anything but what the nist had to say. that a fire and/or debris-induced structural damage of a critical column from their very own report. and also from their report, they have no steel to look at. "The analysis focused on the WTC 1 and WTC 2. Although no steel was recovered from WTC 7, a 47-story building that also collapsed on September 11, properties for steel used in its construction were estimated based on literature and contemporaneous documents. "

it dosent matter what i believe. im asking u, woulnt u like to see the steel from wtc7 studied.

Don't be coy, please. I've been through this very same song and dance with a hundred conspiracy theorists. Drop the viel and say what you mean because standing back and asking questions without providing answers is meaningless.

 

[event8horizon]

if someone wants to see the other view point instead of the "official" view, check out this video. this is richard gage, an architect for 20 yrs. hes a smart man with knowledge of steel and buildings. "how the towers fell" is long and boring but it does go into the NIST study and i belive the FEMA study.


http://video.google.com/videop...&type=search&plindex=2

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

lol

 

[event8horizon]

Originally posted by: Tab
Not this shit again...

9/11 Myths De-Bunked
Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics
Maddox vs. Loose Change

I'm done.

this is kindda funny. as for popular mechanics-

Supporters of the conspiracy theories have claimed that 9/11: Debunking The Myths is "a propaganda piece" written by "a senior government official's cousin" because Chertoff bears the same last name as Department of Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff. However, benjamin Chertoff has repeatedly denied this claim, most notably in the September 11, 2006 issue of U.S. News & World Report, stating "no one in my family has ever met anyone related to Michael Chertoff".[7] In an audio interview, he noted that any possible relationship would likely only be found back in "19th century Belarus. However Benjamin Chertoff's Mother, when asked about a possible relation, she said they "might be distant cousins."[8]

distant cousins????? maybe its one of those zionist conspiracies!!!lol

as for the history channel; popular mechanics and the history channel are owned my the same company, Hearst Corporation. so when people talk about them both "debunking", think of just those one company.
and if u wanna do some research, look into William Randolph Hearst. he was an interesting guy to say the least.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Ok Ok . Lets forget about the conspirecy and Look at the Clean up . And how the clean up crews were outfitted and what they were told. Now I suppose this information is all lies also . 80 dead already from sickness 700 more in bad condition with thousands more exspected. To become sick in the end the clean up and the people who work in the area
are exspected to have a higher death rate . Than the number off people who actually died on 9/11/ This is documented stuff . Why were reports changed by the adminestration . Why were the clean up workers and people in the area told it was safe to be in that area. Offical reports said it wasn't safe air quality wasn't safe . But the adminestration Changed the wording . All documented. This was out and out murder. Anyone sees it in differantly is a fool. and need to remove their tin foil hats.

But this is even bigger than just Bush . Every member of congress and Senate are also resposiable. DEM/REP alike . All shouild go to prison for manslaughter and some like Bush for murder. They all share responsiabilty for this . For not doing their jobs . Do these people work for us or some secret organision in the government. Bankers Brokers.

They need the stock market back up and running . Whats a few thousand more deaths compared to big $$$$$$$$$$$$.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

So by "Final Cut" does that mean they'll give up when this version is debunked?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
So by "Final Cut" does that mean they'll give up when this version is debunked?

Sure does. Let us know when that happens.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Ok Ok . Lets forget about the conspirecy and Look at the Clean up . And how the clean up crews were outfitted and what they were told. Now I suppose this information is all lies also . 80 dead already from sickness 700 more in bad condition with thousands more exspected. To become sick in the end the clean up and the people who work in the area
are exspected to have a higher death rate . Than the number off people who actually died on 9/11/ This is documented stuff . Why were reports changed by the adminestration . Why were the clean up workers and people in the area told it was safe to be in that area. Offical reports said it wasn't safe air quality wasn't safe . But the adminestration Changed the wording . All documented. This was out and out murder. Anyone sees it in differantly is a fool. and need to remove their tin foil hats.

But this is even bigger than just Bush . Every member of congress and Senate are also resposiable. DEM/REP alike . All shouild go to prison for manslaughter and some like Bush for murder. They all share responsiabilty for this . For not doing their jobs . Do these people work for us or some secret organision in the government. Bankers Brokers.

They need the stock market back up and running . Whats a few thousand more deaths compared to big $$$$$$$$$$$$.

Wait, now the government isn't responsible for the planes, they're murders because they deliberately changed wording so the clean-up crews would die in the aftermath? Every week it's something new and every week it gets more and more ridiculous.

Here are some questions:
-How does killing clean-up crews translate into "getting the stock market back up and running?"
-What should the administration have done regarding Ground Zero? First, I heard that they should have categorized every piece of the buildings so they could search for evidence... now you're telling me they shouldn't have done anything at all because it was dangerous?
-How is every member of our government responsible? Did they all get together in some big room and decide, "hey, let's change that report so some people die."?

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: event8horizon

Originally posted by: Tab
Not this shit again...

9/11 Myths De-Bunked
Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics
Maddox vs. Loose Change

I'm done.

this is kindda funny. as for popular mechanics-

Supporters of the conspiracy theories have claimed that 9/11: Debunking The Myths is "a propaganda piece" written by "a senior government official's cousin" because Chertoff bears the same last name as Department of Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff. However, benjamin Chertoff has repeatedly denied this claim, most notably in the September 11, 2006 issue of U.S. News & World Report, stating "no one in my family has ever met anyone related to Michael Chertoff".[7] In an audio interview, he noted that any possible relationship would likely only be found back in "19th century Belarus. However Benjamin Chertoff's Mother, when asked about a possible relation, she said they "might be distant cousins."[8]

distant cousins????? maybe its one of those zionist conspiracies!!!lol

as for the history channel; popular mechanics and the history channel are owned my the same company, Hearst Corporation. so when people talk about them both "debunking", think of just those one company.
and if u wanna do some research, look into William Randolph Hearst. he was an interesting guy to say the least.

So, despite the fact that those articles contain factual information (which you're welcome to cross-reference), you're going to dismiss them because one corporation owns both of the companies? Explain to me what the Hearst Corporation gains by "lying" for the government AND then explain to me why you'll believe any idiot with a youtube video over numerous documents that rely on factual information.

edit: and by numerous documents, I'm including those linked above and others.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
-How is every member of our government responsible? Did they all get together in some big room and decide, "hey, let's change that report so some people die."?

shhhHHH!!! please don't tell them about The Meeting!

damn u...

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Sure does. Let us know when that happens.

It already has. "Loose Change" has been debunked time and time again, which is why they keep "fixing" it and re-releasing it.

 

[Mavtek3100]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

Thermite is iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. What the hell do you think you're going to find at a building site that was hit with a large commercial aircraft, burned, then doused with water.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

Thermite is iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. What the hell do you think you're going to find at a building site that was hit with a large commercial aircraft, burned, then doused with water.

Shhh, those are facts, Mavtek3100 is actually physically incapable of understanding those.

This is the problem with conspiracy theorists, well besides being pants on head crazy, is that they don't give up. A bunch of idiots re-release a debunked film then stand around waiting for people to challenge them in light of their "new" evidence. However, the experts who debunk their garbage have moved on because they have actual things to do.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

Actually, if you bothered to read what I posted earlier, I answered your quip about NORAD.
As for WTC 7, the standing explanation makes sense. Read up on it.

edit: Also, this crap about it being a crime-scene is stupid. I don't understand what you truthers wanted the government to do. I guess they should have gathered up all the twisted pieces of steel, all the glass and tried to reassemble the buildings to "figure out what happened." I have a better idea, why can't you use your eyes and see that the building was hit by hijacked airplanes. That everyone immediately involved in the plan was dead and that there was no 'evidence' to be recovered. The investigation conducted after 9/11 didn't focus on Ground Zero because there was nothing left! The investigation focused on figuring out who was in the planes and how they got there.

As for the rest of what you posted, it's mostly baseless, unfounded crap that you're repeating from some truther website. Instead of making crap up to try and bolster your argument, let's stick to facts.

Get your basic facts straight. For example, Silverstein received a $4.6 billion dollar payout, of which $800 million went to the Port Authority. These are basic facts which you cannot even get right.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

Thermite is iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. What the hell do you think you're going to find at a building site that was hit with a large commercial aircraft, burned, then doused with water.

Not to mention the fact that Larry Silverstein had just purchased the lease on the towers! Should he have insured them before he bought them, just to relieve mavtek of his suspicions? Oh wait, that would have been suspicious too... :roll:

 

[Mavtek3100]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

Thermite is iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. What the hell do you think you're going to find at a building site that was hit with a large commercial aircraft, burned, then doused with water.

Shhh, those are facts, Mavtek3100 is actually physically incapable of understanding those.

This is the problem with conspiracy theorists, well besides being pants on head crazy, is that they don't give up. A bunch of idiots re-release a debunked film then stand around waiting for people to challenge them in light of their "new" evidence. However, the experts who debunk their garbage have moved on because they have actual things to do.

OH SNAP!!!! HE ANSWERED A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION!!! Dumbass doesn't even understand the nature of Thermite what it is or how you can collect residue of its use after a reaction from thermite. There is no way in hell smashing a sheet of aluminum into steel beams will create thermite. Thermite is a specific mix of Iron oxide and powdered aluminum, not only this but you cannot ignite Thermite with jet fuel it doesn't get hot enough. There is no way aluminum fused with iron should have been found in the dust at the world trade center, not nearly enough heat for this to happen. Not to mention high levels of sulphur and magnesium.

Even though you think you answered that question you didn't touch any of the other questions? My God and you call conspiracy theorists stupid?

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
Even though you think you answered that question you didn't touch any of the other questions? My God and you call conspiracy theorists stupid?

I answered three of your questions and dismissed the rest until you provide evidence.

I'd like to also point out that your accusation of the presence of thermite is baseless.

The NIST did not test ground zero for the presence of thermite. Read the report for the full explanation, but here's what they in brief:

Furthermore, a very large quantity of thermite (a mixture of powdered or granular aluminum metal and powdered iron oxide that burns at extremely high temperatures when ignited) or another incendiary compound would have had to be placed on at least the number of columns damaged by the aircraft impact and weakened by the subsequent fires to bring down a tower. Thermite burns slowly relative to explosive materials and can require several minutes in contact with a massive steel section to heat it to a temperature that would result in substantial weakening. Separate from the WTC towers investigation, NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius (the temperature at which steel weakens substantially). Therefore, while a thermite reaction can cut through large steel columns, many thousands of pounds of thermite would need to have been placed inconspicuously ahead of time, remotely ignited, and somehow held in direct contact with the surface of hundreds of massive structural components to weaken the building. This makes it an unlikely substance for achieving a controlled demolition.

But, I guess they don't know what they're talking about... right Mavtek?

 

[event8horizon]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

i looked on their popular mechanics website that the distant cousin of michael chertoff, benjamin chertoff put together to debunk the ct. i coulnt find anything about thermite??? some of the angled cuts from what the ct's think, were from thermite.
after the attack, oxyacetylene torches they used to cut the steel. they dont make that black hardened molten iron that thermite makes where the cut is.
this video shows the oxyacetylene cuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgSr2eBXls

this could help people out. its just a pdf file by By Dr. Steven E. Jones
Physicist and Archaeometrist to take a look at thermite cut steel and oxyacetylene cut steel.
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

Thermite is iron oxide (rust) and aluminum. What the hell do you think you're going to find at a building site that was hit with a large commercial aircraft, burned, then doused with water.

Shhh, those are facts, Mavtek3100 is actually physically incapable of understanding those.

This is the problem with conspiracy theorists, well besides being pants on head crazy, is that they don't give up. A bunch of idiots re-release a debunked film then stand around waiting for people to challenge them in light of their "new" evidence. However, the experts who debunk their garbage have moved on because they have actual things to do.

OH SNAP!!!! HE ANSWERED A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION!!! Dumbass doesn't even understand the nature of Thermite what it is or how you can collect residue of its use after a reaction from thermite. There is no way in hell smashing a sheet of aluminum into steel beams will create thermite. Thermite is a specific mix of Iron oxide and powdered aluminum, not only this but you cannot ignite Thermite with jet fuel it doesn't get hot enough. There is no way aluminum fused with iron should have been found in the dust at the world trade center, not nearly enough heat for this to happen. Not to mention high levels of sulphur and magnesium.

Even though you think you answered that question you didn't touch any of the other questions? My God and you call conspiracy theorists stupid?

Cutting by thermite would be so fucking insanely obvious on steel members that you'd have to be legally blind not to notice it. OMG!! they found rust and aluminum at the site, magnesium too (a common lightweight metal used in a million fucking things).

Temperatures in parts of the rubble pile (which was self insulating the fire) did reach sufficient heights to melt some of structural steel components. Aluminum has a significantly lower melting point.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: event8horizon

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

i looked on their popular mechanics website that the distant cousin of michael chertoff, benjamin chertoff put together to debunk the ct. i coulnt find anything about thermite??? some of the angled cuts from what the ct's think, were from thermite.
after the attack, oxyacetylene torches they used to cut the steel. they dont make that black hardened molten iron that thermite makes where the cut is.
this video shows the oxyacetylene cuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgSr2eBXls

this could help people out. its just a pdf file by By Dr. Steven E. Jones
Physicist and Archaeometrist to take a look at thermite cut steel and oxyacetylene cut steel.
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf

So... you completely avoided anything I just posted and went straight for some tangential youtube video?

 

[Mavtek3100]

Vic he didn't transfer the existing Insurance, he got a new policy that paid out a lot more than the original one. Lucky Larry indeed!

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
Vic he didn't transfer the existing Insurance, he got a new policy that paid out a lot more than the original one. Lucky Larry indeed!

The final payout was 4.6 billion, of which $800 million went to the port authority.

PLEASE provide me a link explaining where you get the $7 billion from.

 

[event8horizon]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: event8horizon

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
My only questions are why was Thermite found in the dust after it was analyzed? What the hell is with all that molten steel? What were all those explosions hundreds of eyewitnesses experienced? Why was the building shut down 2 weeks prior to supposedly run fiber optic cable(which I used to do for a living and I never needed all the power in the building shut down or at all)? Why was the funding of the attack never followed up on? Why was the most heinous crime scene in the history of America so hurriedly cleaned up and shipped out of the country for recycling before any of the materials could be investigated? Why didn't NORAD respond? What was it that Mineta heard Cheney say? Is Larry Silverstein the luckiest man in the world, for insuring his property against terrorism 6 weeks prior to the attack thus getting a payout over $7 billion? When is the NIST going to give us an explanation for why WTC 7 collapsed? Why hasn't the $10 billion appropriated to injured 1st responders paid them or helped them as they are very ill now?

I think they are very relevant questions, as far as theories who cares, I'd just like some real answers. Oh and can we please see some of the video around the Pentagon?

Anyone? I guess I'm going to be waiting forever and ever. NIST? nope....... Anyone else?

i looked on their popular mechanics website that the distant cousin of michael chertoff, benjamin chertoff put together to debunk the ct. i coulnt find anything about thermite??? some of the angled cuts from what the ct's think, were from thermite.
after the attack, oxyacetylene torches they used to cut the steel. they dont make that black hardened molten iron that thermite makes where the cut is.
this video shows the oxyacetylene cuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfgSr2eBXls

this could help people out. its just a pdf file by By Dr. Steven E. Jones
Physicist and Archaeometrist to take a look at thermite cut steel and oxyacetylene cut steel.
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf

So... you completely avoided anything I just posted and went straight for some tangential youtube video?

what about your other posts. did u look at the thermite cuts vs the oxyacetylene cuts. as for the youtube, its at ground zero, the guy was working there and showing some cut steel.