9/11 Loose Change Final Cut Released Online

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Mavtek3100

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Yea, this has nothing to do with Ron Paul, I'm watching it. It's just a bunch of news clips from years ago from CNN, Fox, ABC. I don't see anything but a collection of these news casts....

Kinda annoying. Don't watch it though! These News casters are kooks!
 

halik

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: halik
go away and take your roon paul spam with you
This has nothing to do with Ron Paul.

Gee it's a sheer coinkidink the only posters that responded positively to this garbage are ron paul crazy... the gubment must've implanted some kind of all-knowing device in my head ZOMGAIEEE....
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
Yea, this has nothing to do with Ron Paul, I'm watching it. It's just a bunch of news clips from years ago from CNN, Fox, ABC. I don't see anything but a collection of these news casts....

Kinda annoying. Don't watch it though! These News casters are kooks!

The thing about this version that is genious is that they are using peoples statements against them. Cheney, bush, various news agencies and such. Its fricken great to hold them up to the light to see the snakes they truly are.
 
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It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

So says the person who is watching or has watched it?
 
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

So says the person who is watching or has watched it?

I've seen at least two versions of it. Both have been blown up point by point. What makes you think this version will be any different? As we speak I'm sure the History Channel or Popular Mechanics, or any of the other groups that shot down the first few versions, are out there breaking down this work of fiction and countering each "point" being made... with actual facts.

Just like they did last time.

And the time before that.

Let me ask you this. Why do you have such a hard-on for this stuff? Are you desperately hoping that THIS time their assumptions, theories and conjecture will actually hold up under scrutiny? What are they batting so far? 0-3? 0-4?
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

So says the person who is watching or has watched it?

I've seen at least two versions of it. Both have been blown up point by point. What makes you think this version will be any different? As we speak I'm sure the History Channel or Popular Mechanics, or any of the other groups that shot down the first few versions, are out there breaking down this work of fiction and countering each "point" being made... with actual facts.

Just like they did last time.

And the time before that.

Let me ask you this. Why do you have such a hard-on for this stuff? Are you desperately hoping that THIS time their assumptions, theories and conjecture will actually hold up under scrutiny? What are they batting so far? 0-3? 0-4?

You don't have to believe it. This version seems to use people's words against them, or use eye witness accounts, unlike previous versions. But I guess you would have to watch it to truly have an opinion.
 
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

So says the person who is watching or has watched it?

I've seen at least two versions of it. Both have been blown up point by point. What makes you think this version will be any different? As we speak I'm sure the History Channel or Popular Mechanics, or any of the other groups that shot down the first few versions, are out there breaking down this work of fiction and countering each "point" being made... with actual facts.

Just like they did last time.

And the time before that.

Let me ask you this. Why do you have such a hard-on for this stuff? Are you desperately hoping that THIS time their assumptions, theories and conjecture will actually hold up under scrutiny? What are they batting so far? 0-3? 0-4?

You don't have to believe it. This version seems to use people's words against them, or use eye witness accounts, unlike previous versions. But I guess you would have to watch it to truly have an opinion.

Nice dodge.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

So says the person who is watching or has watched it?

I've seen at least two versions of it. Both have been blown up point by point. What makes you think this version will be any different? As we speak I'm sure the History Channel or Popular Mechanics, or any of the other groups that shot down the first few versions, are out there breaking down this work of fiction and countering each "point" being made... with actual facts.

Just like they did last time.

And the time before that.

Let me ask you this. Why do you have such a hard-on for this stuff? Are you desperately hoping that THIS time their assumptions, theories and conjecture will actually hold up under scrutiny? What are they batting so far? 0-3? 0-4?

You don't have to believe it. This version seems to use people's words against them, or use eye witness accounts, unlike previous versions. But I guess you would have to watch it to truly have an opinion.

Nice dodge.

Yeah whatever. I do not care to argue with you. But if you would like to have something to base your argument on, then watch it.
 
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Nice dodge.

Yeah whatever. I do not care to argue with you. But if you would like to have something to base your argument on, then watch it.

I haven't seen it so I'm not going to argue the facts right now. What I was asking is why you think they got it right THIS time. Why you think it won't be fully debunked THIS time.

Forgive me if I don't watch something that keeps making up a new story line everytime the old one gets torn down.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Nice dodge.

Yeah whatever. I do not care to argue with you. But if you would like to have something to base your argument on, then watch it.

I haven't seen it so I'm not going to argue the facts right now. What I was asking is why you think they got it right THIS time. Why you think it won't be fully debunked THIS time.

Forgive me if I don't watch something that keeps making up a new story line everytime the old one gets torn down.

This version seems to use people's words against them, or use eye witness accounts, unlike previous versions.
 

GenHoth

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

This version seems to use people's words against them, or use eye witness accounts, unlike previous versions.

Because as we all know, personal accounts are wonderful evidence. Ron Paul came out firmly against 9/11 conspirators. So whats up with the hold overs?
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: GenHoth
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

This version seems to use people's words against them, or use eye witness accounts, unlike previous versions.

Because as we all know, personal accounts are wonderful evidence. Ron Paul came out firmly against 9/11 conspirators. So whats up with the hold overs?

Yes, in the court of law person eye witnesses are very important.

What does this have to do with Ron Paul?
 

Nemesis 1

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Well I watched it . The whole thing. I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I don't even care about the evidence which their is plenty of.

PC Surgen let it be. You may be getting yourself into serious trouble here. Not with the forum however.

Its simple enough to determine the trueth . threw Newtons laws. Math can't lie. You know the trueth. Isn't that enough?

I am truely sadden and almost in dispair about the events of 9/11.

Not for myself or people of my age. But for my children and their children and all the other young people of America.

To argue and debate this issue is useless.

Let the sheep be lead. Its not worth the heartache I know you feel.

PC keep one thing in mine threw all of this. None of our leaders seem to want to bring closure to this in a way that the American public can say thank God I was really wondering about this.

Your right their are government shills out there but not here at AT forums. I am more concerned right now in the events that will take place befor the next election. If our government has betrayed us . Well know for sure in the coming years. If their is an agenda . Just wait for the next Phaze to take place,

May God keep you safe.
 

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Lifer
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I am amazed people still get pulled into these conspiracy theories. It's as if they want to believe it. Yes, I think that's probably the best explanation; evidence by damned, these nuts are going to continue believing this not because they necessarily know it's true beyond a reasonable doubt, but because they believe it could be true and, based on the 1% of evidence that hasn't been explained throughly, they are damn well going to tell everyone about it.
 

beyoku

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There is not that much of a conspiracy about a collage of old news footage.
You can see the real conspiracy in the first 10 minutes.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's not a documentary when it has to be remade every time its conclusions/assumptions are debunked.

Fact without theory is trivia.
Theory without fact is bullshit.
Theory that is constantly beat down by facts is Loose Change.

QFT. :thumbsup:
 

clamum

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I saw the first Loose Change and thought it was intriguing at first, but after researching for a few minutes found out and realized it was laughably stupid.

I'll check this one out but ain't expecting much. 9/11 conspiracies are hilarious.
 

Appledrop

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Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
I am amazed people still get pulled into these conspiracy theories. It's as if they want to believe it. Yes, I think that's probably the best explanation; evidence by damned, these nuts are going to continue believing this not because they necessarily know it's true beyond a reasonable doubt, but because they believe it could be true and, based on the 1% of evidence that hasn't been explained throughly, they are damn well going to tell everyone about it.

:disgust: no, really the 9/11 'conspiracy theories' are mostly right..
And i wish they werent... It feels much nicer to think that we're in a perfect time where nothing horribly corrupt happens, and that there is no globalist elite, ignoring history and all the events going on... But well its a toss up.. Stay ignorant and happy or awake and uh not so happy.. :confused:
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Looks like the government shills are out in full armor tonight.

Thanks for this OP. Watching now :)
And you wonder why people don?t take the Ron Paul bots serious.

I could personally take a shit and care as much about that as I do your opinion of me.

Hey you government shill guys are missing one, where is palehorse?
I'm right here, sitting in my shill office, across the street from the shill-filled Pentagon, laughing at anyone who takes this video seriously.

You guys are a fvcking joke.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm right here, sitting in my shill office, across the street from the shill-filled Pentagon, laughing AT anyone who takes this video seriously.

:laugh:

You guys are a fvcking joke.

:thumbsup:
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Watch It Here

Completely remade since the second edition release. Lots of new video clips of our government and intelligence officials backtracking and covering up intelligence that conflicted with the "official" position of our government (9/11, Osama, Terror).

Runtime is 130 minutes, but definitely worth watching.

I'm making the popcorn now, uh ....... would you please pass the koolaid?