19 Year Old Girl Shot Looking for Help

[EagleKeeper]

My problem is when the "spin" revolves constant shrieking about everything being racially motivated.


As a society, we will never move past these issues as long as ANY situation involving a burnt umber or darker and a dirty ivory or lighter is automatically due to racial hate...... When in reality this seems to very very rarely be the case.


It's 'the boy who cries wolf' to a T. It's gotten to where the young person who truly is persecuted due to race will certainly never be heard, due to the likes of the martin family, the jordan family, and now this case.


I also don't understand why the black community props up these losers to support. You'd think they would pick an 'upstanding victim', not bottom feeder thugsters and substance abusers.

The losers are the ones that get into situations; the upstanding ones do not.

So of the losers; you then need to choose the ones that do not have a visible track record of trouble and then try to paint them as angels/innocents/free spirits

 

[EagleKeeper]

And she was shot by a bad tempered drunk who was a total asshole (see link). None of which matters.



http://www.ibtimes.com/who-theodore...t-man-who-shot-killed-renisha-mcbride-1473142

If he was not drunk; then it should not come into play;
Most people will not be pleased being woken up at 3AM period!

 

[classy]

We have plenty of facts already, certainly enough to make some preliminary judgements in a social settings.


It involves a very troubled young woman going through CURRENT problems, who was over 3 times the legal limit DUI, was also on drugs, who has a history of alcohol and drug-fueled problems, who spent a couple of hours wondering around wasted trying to enter people's homes after totaling her car.

You just described literally the lives of millions. None of this adds up to being killed by someone because you knocked on their door. It is sad that you are so blinded by pure hatred that you can't see that this man was wrong to shoot this girl, whether on purpose or by accident.

 

[SheHateMe]

Whats confusing me about this thread is that for the last few pages, people have been stating definitively that Ranisha was trying to break in. Someone even went as far as to say that she may have tried to go around to get in somewhere else at Wafer's house.



Of course, no sources.


We have the County Prosecutor saying that there hasn't been any proof that there was an attempt to break in....and that Wafer's door was locked...


Yet, we have people stating that she was pounding on the door screaming obscenities and trying to break the door down.

They have also stated that he shot her through the screen door....and you have people here trying to argue that that's legal. If it were, he wouldn't be getting charged.


Ya'll are so backwards. You get to say whatever you want about people....you get to have an admin backing you up on this.....but you know, people not on your side are race baiters/not telling the truth/not credible/etc.

 

[nehalem256]

Ya'll are so backwards. You get to say whatever you want about people....you get to have an admin backing you up on this.....but you know, people not on your side are race baiters/not telling the truth/not credible/etc.

From the OP:

McBride's family believes she was going door-to-door looking for help after her car broke down and her cell phone was dead. She was shot as she was leaving the suspect's porch, according to Detroit Pastor W.J. Rideout

So how many outright lies or gross distortions are contained there?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

From the OP:



So how many outright lies or gross distortions are contained there?

Lies and distortions are A-OK as long as they support her per-concieved notions about the situation.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

How was the homeowner who was abruptly woken in the early morning hours supposed to know she wasn't attempting to break in?

 

[SheHateMe]

From the OP:



So how many outright lies or gross distortions are contained there?

Way to move goal posts, I am talking about what is taking place in this thread between members of this board.

Lies and distortions are A-OK as long as they support her per-concieved notions about the situation.

Just like you people get to lie because it supports your pre-conceived notions about this story. Last 3 pages are full of made up tales about what happened, just like Ranisha's family's account of what had taken place.

The only difference between you and your friends and them is that you get to do it from the comfort of your computer chair. You don't have to prove any of what you've guys have said about Ranisha trying to break in, trying to break down his door, and screaming obscenities because when people ask you to, you try to change the subject to someone else. Having EagleKeeper on your team helps too.

As someone else said in this thread, they believe Wafer's story more than the investigation being done by the Prosecution....which means you people don't even need the actual truth. You've adopted your own, and you're sticking to it.


Maybe you all should get together for dinner at Spidey's house. Just make sure you knock real hard on the door when you get there.

 

[Jaskalas]

From the OP:

So how many outright lies or gross distortions are contained there?

Deflection. You have no evidence and you try to attack others. Still leaves you with nothing to excuse the murder of a drunk, injured, unarmed woman.

 

[Jaskalas]

How was the homeowner who was abruptly woken in the early morning hours supposed to know she wasn't attempting to break in?

How do I know you're not trying to break in?

"It's coming right for us!"

 

[nehalem256]

Deflection. You have no evidence and you try to attack others. Still leaves you with nothing to excuse the murder of a drunk, injured, unarmed woman.

An accident isn't murder.

The most the man would appear to be guilty of is having sub-optimal gun control during a high stress situation.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Whats confusing me about this thread is that for the last few pages, people have been stating definitively that Ranisha was trying to break in. Someone even went as far as to say that she may have tried to go around to get in somewhere else at Wafer's house.



Of course, no sources.


We have the County Prosecutor saying that there hasn't been any proof that there was an attempt to break in....and that Wafer's door was locked...


Yet, we have people stating that she was pounding on the door screaming obscenities and trying to break the door down.

They have also stated that he shot her through the screen door....and you have people here trying to argue that that's legal. If it were, he wouldn't be getting charged.


Ya'll are so backwards. You get to say whatever you want about people....you get to have an admin backing you up on this.....but you know, people not on your side are race baiters/not telling the truth/not credible/etc.

Without video evidence, we're going by what the victim claims as well as known evidence and facts.

To me, someone violently beating on my door... IE enough to deflect the door inwards around the lockset, is trying to break in.

Since we have no way to say for sure what exactly she was doing, we're going by the homeowners statements and her condition at the time.


Somehow, I seriously doubt that someone over 3 times the legal limit, who just destroyed her fourth car, who was also under the influence of substances other than alcohol, who just illegally left the scene of a horrific accident which she caused... Was just politely rap-a-tap-tapping on the door.

But, that's just me making logical conclusions here.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

How do I know you're not trying to break in?

"It's coming right for us!"

Thank you for proving why most of what you post on this forum is not worth reading or considering.

 

[SheHateMe]

*snip*

To me, someone violently beating on my door... IE enough to deflect the door inwards around the lockset, is trying to break in.

*snip*

But, that's just me making logical conclusions here.

This is exactly what I'm talking about..

No proof of damage to his door, no proof of (attempted or otherwise) break in.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

This is exactly what I'm talking about..

Welcome to America. You approach someone's home at 3am making it look like you're trying to break in = good shoot.


Sure, 1/100 cases it's some loser who just crashed their car, who is drunk and high and probably thinks they're breaking in to their own home... And that's a sad situation, that the drug/drunk put themselves in.

But really, that 1/100 chance is a small price to pay for the other 99/100 where it's someone breaking in to harm you and your family.


It's very simple. Don't go driving your car on public roads at over 3x the DUI limit, crash, then violently beat on people's door (possibly tearing through the screen?) and you won't be in this sort of situation.

 

[nehalem256]

It's very simple. Don't go driving your car on public roads at over 3x the DUI limit, crash, then violently beat on people's door (possibly tearing through the screen?) and you won't be in this sort of situation.

You left out the fleeing the po-po

Whether or not the woman was "breaking in" it is indisputable she was shot while committing a crime, fleeing the scene of an accident.

 

[bshole]

then violently beat on people's door (possibly tearing through the screen?

Hell as long as you're making up lies, why don't you claim she was murdering a 5 year old on the porch? That would prove the shooting was extra righteous.

Provide a motherfucking source or quit fucking lying. I want a link!!!!

 

[classy]

How was the homeowner who was abruptly woken in the early morning hours supposed to know she wasn't attempting to break in?

It is just beyond me, if your guys responses are not being motivated by race, yall seriously need a check up from the neck up. So what somebody woke you up, it is completely irrational to think someone is trying break in. It could have been a neighbor or worse a neighbor's child banging for help. Banging on someone's door is not breaking and entering and doesn't warrant coming to the door with a shotgun. Jesus, whatever happened to yelling out asking who is it, before even getting close to the door. If he really thought someone was trying to break in, why didn't he call the cops, like several of the other people that I posted did?

I am not hanging race on you here either, but the rational of these posts are just completely void of oh I don't know........................common sense

 

[classy]

An accident isn't murder.

The most the man would appear to be guilty of is having sub-optimal gun control during a high stress situation.

Yes I agree, but that is called manslaughter

 

[Emos]

Hell as long as you're making up lies, why don't you claim she was murdering a 5 year old on the porch? That would prove the shooting was extra righteous.

Provide a motherfucking source or quit fucking lying. I want a link!!!!

You'll never get one from those jokers.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It is just beyond me, if your guys responses are not being motivated by race, yall seriously need a check up from the neck up. So what somebody woke you up, it is completely irrational to think someone is trying break in. It could have been a neighbor or worse a neighbor's child banging for help. Banging on someone's door is not breaking and entering and doesn't warrant coming to the door with a shotgun. Jesus, whatever happened to yelling out asking who is it, before even getting close to the door. If he really thought someone was trying to break in, why didn't he call the cops, like several of the other people that I posted did?

I am not hanging race on you here either, but the rational of these posts are just completely void of oh I don't know........................common sense

So please explain exactly what the "banging" sounded like? You seem to act like you know exactly what the homeowner heard/felt.

As for the race, you and several others play the race card every chance you get.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

It is just beyond me, if your guys responses are not being motivated by race, yall seriously need a check up from the neck up. So what somebody woke you up, it is completely irrational to think someone is trying break in. It could have been a neighbor or worse a neighbor's child banging for help. Banging on someone's door is not breaking and entering and doesn't warrant coming to the door with a shotgun. Jesus, whatever happened to yelling out asking who is it, before even getting close to the door. If he really thought someone was trying to break in, why didn't he call the cops, like several of the other people that I posted did?

I am not hanging race on you here either, but the rational of these posts are just completely void of oh I don't know........................common sense

The victim stated that he thought she was trying to break in to his home.

As of yet, we don't know exactly what made him him think that.

 

[classy]

So please explain exactly what the "banging" sounded like? You seem to act like you know exactly what the homeowner heard/felt.

As for the race, you and several others play the race card every chance you get.

We don't. I like many others get roped in race on here and have for your years because I refuse to be quiet when it is clear your response is motivated by race.

Okay the girl was drunk, maybe even high, and a terrible driver by some accounts. And so many of you are literally cheering some man who shot her in the face because she was banging on his door at 3 am in the morning.

 

[spidey07]

Getting shot in the face is an expected and logical outcome if you bang on somebody's door at 3 in the morning. It really is.

Don't do that.

 

[EagleKeeper]

then violently beat on people's door (possibly tearing through the screen?

Hell as long as you're making up lies, why don't you claim she was murdering a 5 year old on the porch? That would prove the shooting was extra righteous.

Provide a motherfucking source or quit fucking lying. I want a link!!!!

Just like you and others; he is not directly associating.

Many on both sides tap dance around words ignoring the meaning that the words convey.

That was aptly demonstrated in the Zimmerman case.