DisEnchantment
Golden Member
Speculate at will
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Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)
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igor_kavinski
Lifer
The ES Beats 14900K.
Hail The Brain Slug
Diamond Member
Looks like the ES clocked at 5650? I'll run this on my stock 7950X and see where it clocks.
PJVol
Senior member
What happened to PBO and why is the CCLK limit now 5650 Mhz?
Josh128
Banned
Awesome, please convey my thanks to ES user! So its one point from the M3 top score at 5.65GHz. Very nice. Do you know if he had to finagle anything to get here / this is with boost 'up to' 5.7GHz?
Looks like max clock recorded was 5.65GHz in HWinfo. That means its possible we'll see another 50-100MHz for retail, possibly topping the M3 score. Very nice.
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Det0x
Golden Member
He wanted to see stock boost/fmax for this ES i guess (?)
Josh128
Banned
I asked for 5.7 ST to see what retail will bring. Igor said that may not be possible with this ES, but they would try. So its unclear if retail will behave this way, but it seems like max freq should at least touch 5.7 just through the process of booting into Windows on retail, which was not the case with ES. Whether or not retail will reach a tiny bit higher and average 5.7-5.75 during this test is unknown, but this is close enough to reasonably expect at least this score on all properly cooled 9950X retail CPUs.
PJVol
Senior member
Idk... what's the stock Fmax for the 7950X ? In other words, what's its core effective clock under the ST workload?
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igor_kavinski
Lifer
I think this is as stock as that ES can get.
Hail The Brain Slug
Diamond Member
With EXPO off in a fully stock config mine would not exceed 5.65 GHz. I enabled EXPO (no PBO) and it's hitting 5.7GHz
No idea why EXPO changed it. Unless maybe the membw was constricting it. I know it's more memory sensitive than previous cinebench.
igor_kavinski
Lifer
What's the ST score at 5.65 and 5.7?
The rate at wich the score increase as he increase power, we ll know more once Computerbase do their review since they ll make tests at 45, 65, 88 and 142W like they did for the 7950X.
FlameTail
Diamond Member
AMD's Zen 5 chips pack in 8.315 billion transistors per compute die, a 28% increase in density
Something it did not do earlier.
28% is incredible.
That's like a full node shrink worth of density gain.
Physical Design magic?
AMD's Zen 5 chips pack in 8.315 billion transistors per compute die, a 28% increase in density
Something it did not do earlier.www.tomshardware.com
28% is incredible.
That's like a full node shrink worth of density gain.
Physical Design magic?
The core grew significantly but they were able to shrink the L3 to compensate. How they were able to do so is unknown right now.
Hail The Brain Slug
Diamond Member
Hard to know if the difference was membw or clocks.
Stock/JEDEC: 120
6400/2133 EXPO tuned: 126
Can't tell you why it's behaving this way. My only thought is maybe it's not boosting higher since it's bound by the slower memory config somehow. The performance difference is certainly a lot larger than a 50MHz clock/effective clock difference.
igor_kavinski
Lifer
The ST perf gain of the ES seems to be in line with the average IPC % uplift of Zen 5.
gaav87
Senior member
143Pts and my hard-on gone again.
Saylick
Diamond Member
Still no word about that "ladder" cache, huh? I guess we'll just have to wait for either the launch date to get more info, or worst-case Hot Chips in August.
igor_kavinski
Lifer
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X outperforms Core i9-14900KS by 12% with unlimited power settings - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X at 160W matches Core i9-14900KS at 253W Comparison from AnandTech leaker. Courtesy of PCGamesN/TechPowerUP There’s another leak featuring a non-official sample of the Ryzen 9 9950X. AMD has partially lifted the embargo on architectural details, but the company has yet to allow...
videocardz.com
O M G !!!
The lies! They never end!
Oh, the unbearable agony of going through all the screenshots! I hope he didn't end up in hospital. Real journalism is so hard these days!
PJVol
Senior member
Unlikely, because HWInfo has reported CCLK limit of 5650 mhz in cbr24 st.
biostud
Lifer
Then the 5900XT 😛
Makaveli
Diamond Member
lol your post have been feeding so many of these sites I hope they are cutting you a cheque or some stock options 🙂AMD Ryzen 9 9950X outperforms Core i9-14900KS by 12% with unlimited power settings - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X at 160W matches Core i9-14900KS at 253W Comparison from AnandTech leaker. Courtesy of PCGamesN/TechPowerUP There’s another leak featuring a non-official sample of the Ryzen 9 9950X. AMD has partially lifted the embargo on architectural details, but the company has yet to allow...
O M G !!!
The lies! They never end!
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Oh, the unbearable agony of going through all the screenshots! I hope he didn't end up in hospital. Real journalism is so hard these days!
Josh128
Banned
Thats what Im rocking... 🙂
igor_kavinski
Lifer
OMG! I've got a LONG list of benchmarks for you!
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